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Tempest_56 posted:Kill them all. They can't call the cops if they're dead, and the cleaner cost is insignificant. (Cheeto's comments are also correct, but seriously, shoot them. It's easier, more reliable and the penalties are insignificant.) Having to listen to Bain bitch every time you cap a civilian is penalty enough.
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lol if you don't shoot every civvie on the map
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Tempest_56 posted:Kill them all. They can't call the cops if they're dead, and the cleaner cost is insignificant. (Cheeto's comments are also correct, but seriously, shoot them. It's easier, more reliable and the penalties are insignificant.) Most of the time I fire into the air to get them down and then shoot them so I don't have to keep scaring them into submission. It's a lot easier than chasing down alerted civilians with a fartgun. Other Cheeto solo stealth tips: bring a silenced shotgun, it will help you fling bodies into dark corners and save you bodybags if you do it properly. The ones I recommend (judge, breaker) have pretty high damage and keep them from firing their guns on the way out. If you need the guard to fall where he stands instead of getting flung backwards use your shuriken or primary or melee. If you want to fling a guard in a different direction, shout him down and then get in position to fling in the desired direction. It's less important to save bodybags now that everyone can bring them and ECMs but it's always fun to fling corpses.
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BillmasterCozb posted:lol if you don't shoot every civvie on the map why stoop to the cops' level
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Jul 21, 2016 19:46
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Jim DiGriz posted:why stoop to the cops' level you're not funny
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BillmasterCozb posted:you're not funny 
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BillmasterCozb posted:you're not funny from Europe this war on civilians doesn't seem to be either.
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I think with both so viable and close in stats, Infiltrator vs. Anarchist even for the types of specialized builds being discussed is mostly gonna come down to which way you want your armor to work. I would play anarchist even if they otherwise nerfed the poo poo out of it just because being immune to suppression with timed partial regen appeals to me more as a mechanic than the normal suppression/full regen of other perk decks. Particularly combined with bullseye and a heavy automatic weapon like a LMG, that whole "immunity to suppression" thing means I might as well just stand out here and keep shooting fools. I will grant this comes with the downside of if the poo poo really hits the fan, "my team needs me right now and my armor's down!" I can't be "back in" nearly as fast as an infiltrator, but considering I can definitely stay in the line of fire for longer due to the suppression immunity and constant regen, I feel it's an ok tradeoff.
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fine im going to name my thanatos "harambe's bain" (pun intended) and only shoot dozers with it
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Jim DiGriz posted:why stoop to the cops' level 
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Lately I feel bad for using that image for obvious reasons but it's just so good. Also in Payday related posts: Are there any heists where you get cash stacks, gold bricks, and cocaine? I had a really weird dream where I was slinging bags of all three around in an underground vault and now I can't quite recall if any mission has all three baggable loot items at once.
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Capn Beeb posted:Also in Payday related posts: Are there any heists where you get cash stacks, gold bricks, and cocaine? I had a really weird dream where I was slinging bags of all three around in an underground vault and now I can't quite recall if any mission has all three baggable loot items at once. Shadow Raid is the only one I can think of off the top of my head. Oh, Meltdown as well!
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Dr Cheeto posted:Shadow Raid is the only one I can think of off the top of my head. And Framing Frame, though not all three on the same day.
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Dr Cheeto posted:bring a silenced shotgun Just be very careful doing so on Diamond Heist; at least once I've accidentally brought a silenced Judge and launched a guard out of the 2nd floor window, oopsie doopsie.
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If you happen to get coke in the FBI evidence locker on day 2 and can rope someone in to breaking deposit boxes on day 3 then Firestarter would count.
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Dr Cheeto posted:If you happen to get coke in the FBI evidence locker on day 2 and can rope someone in to breaking deposit boxes on day 3 then Firestarter would count. I want to say you can maybe get all three on day two of Firestarter? Rarely, admittedly. chairface posted:I think with both so viable and close in stats, Infiltrator vs. Anarchist even for the types of specialized builds being discussed is mostly gonna come down to which way you want your armor to work. I would play anarchist even if they otherwise nerfed the poo poo out of it just because being immune to suppression with timed partial regen appeals to me more as a mechanic than the normal suppression/full regen of other perk decks. Particularly combined with bullseye and a heavy automatic weapon like a LMG, that whole "immunity to suppression" thing means I might as well just stand out here and keep shooting fools. I will grant this comes with the downside of if the poo poo really hits the fan, "my team needs me right now and my armor's down!" I can't be "back in" nearly as fast as an infiltrator, but considering I can definitely stay in the line of fire for longer due to the suppression immunity and constant regen, I feel it's an ok tradeoff. Yeah. I'm heavily biased against ICTV since I see moving slowly as a huge disadvantage. If I can't make something work in a suit or LBV, I'm probably not going to do it.
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LuciferMorningstar posted:Yeah. I'm heavily biased against ICTV since I see moving slowly as a huge disadvantage. If I can't make something work in a suit or LBV, I'm probably not going to do it. Anarchist works great in LBV, especially if you still take iron man basic for +30% armor and the lower tier skill in the same tree that's a flat +20 to ballistic vests. I'm actually considering swapping up to a ballistic or heavy ballistic vest even if it's not purely optimal just cuz it's jarring for me to be that fast. I'm so used to fatsuits...
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I wouldn't use those, they're kind of ... bad. You'll get used to the speed. LBV/suit is really hard to give up once you get it.
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chairface posted:Anarchist works great in LBV, especially if you still take iron man basic for +30% armor and the lower tier skill in the same tree that's a flat +20 to ballistic vests. I'm actually considering swapping up to a ballistic or heavy ballistic vest even if it's not purely optimal just cuz it's jarring for me to be that fast. I'm so used to fatsuits... I use an LBV when I don't care about concealment. I tend to prefer using a suit with Anarchist, though. 70 less armor, but the extra dodge often comes in useful.
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LuciferMorningstar posted:I use an LBV when I don't care about concealment. I tend to prefer using a suit with Anarchist, though. 70 less armor, but the extra dodge often comes in useful. Dodging is just flinching.
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chairface posted:Dodging is just flinching. lol
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LuciferMorningstar posted:I want to say you can maybe get all three on day two of Firestarter? Rarely, admittedly. It at least used to be possible. Gold, cash, guns, and coke are all potentially on FS2.
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So I understand that because of the dynamic nature of the game's music, modding your own music files into the heist soundtracks would be really tricky. But I'm wondering, since the menu tracks just play normally on a loop, if adding or replacing any of the menu tracks would be any easier? I just realized the other day I'd love to have the Jagged Alliance 2 laptop theme as my Payday 2 main menu music.
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Bort Bortles posted:I've been on the fence about continuing to use Muscle exactly for that reason. I love when 5 cops are lined up on top of shipping crates in Slaughterhouse. Once I started using Muscle two of them duck out of my view and I can only kill three of them instead of just BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG five dead cops. maswastaken posted:Use a silencer and panic never happens. This was a few days ago but I still had Muscle's panic kick in with silencers while I was trying a build with The Professional for LMGs and heavy assault rifles. Silencers negate threat but I think panic is a separate effect.
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As a long guide fellater, I recall that muscle panic only procs on guns that aren't silenced. Have they changed that recently, fellow long guide enthusiasts?
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Nordick posted:So I understand that because of the dynamic nature of the game's music, modding your own music files into the heist soundtracks would be really tricky. Yes, it's easier to replace menu tracks for that reason. I don't know the specifics but I've seen them done and the mod authors said as much. I think the trick is finding one of a similar/same length as the one you want to replace? Maybe? good choice though. Don't let Magic call you a snapperhead 
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Nordick posted:So I understand that because of the dynamic nature of the game's music, modding your own music files into the heist soundtracks would be really tricky. There is only one acceptable menu tune and it's Let's Go Shopping.
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Allen Wren posted:There is only one acceptable menu tune and it's Let's Go Shopping. Sorry, Half Past Wicked exists
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Let's Go Shopping is already claimed, anyway. Payday Card screen deserves only one track. Replacing Busted with Zagrebacka is also great.
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I just have mine play all of the songs randomly so you never know what you're going to get. The B-Sides stuff gets a little annoying sometimes though, especially when it's a really REALLY short song and so you hear it about a million drat times. Need a BLT mod that cycles the song as soon as one ends so I don't keep hearing RULE BRITANIA RULE BRITANIA RULE BRITANIA RULE BRITANIA RULE BRITANIA RULE BRITANIA RULE BRITANIA RULE BRITANIA RULE BRITANIA RULE BRITANIA RULE BRITANIA RULE BRITANIA RULE BRITANIA RULE BRITANIA RULE BRITANIA
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So where's the option for high quality graphics? Because a lot of stuff like posters are untextured as hell
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BillmasterCozb posted:So where's the option for high quality graphics? Because a lot of stuff like posters are untextured as hell In Payday 3
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Pfft look at these GPU havers, just play on a seven year old laptop and never leave the Playstation 2 era 
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So, how do I get invited into the Steam Group? Here is my profile.
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Psion posted:Yes, it's easier to replace menu tracks for that reason. I don't know the specifics but I've seen them done and the mod authors said as much. I think the trick is finding one of a similar/same length as the one you want to replace? Maybe? I've never actually used Magic. I tend to stick with the cheaper guys. Ya ain't been in combat, Ace, 'till you've pulled an eyeball outta your pocket. RandallODim posted:Let's Go Shopping is already claimed, anyway. Payday Card screen deserves only one track. I've had Pilgrim as my main menu track for ages. It's short and really simple, but also very subdued so it doesn't get abrasively repetitive. Nordick fucked around with this message at 05:41 on Jul 22, 2016 |
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Shooting Blanks posted:It at least used to be possible. Gold, cash, guns, and coke are all potentially on FS2. Long Guide: The room has a 25% chance to contain 1-4 coke bags, 15% chance to contain 1-4 cash bags, 15% chance to contain 1-4 gold bags, 15% chance to contain 1-4 weapons bags (all evaluated independently, so the maximum amount of loot is 16). Discendo Vox fucked around with this message at 06:18 on Jul 22, 2016 |
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Discendo Vox posted:Long Guide: Doesn't FS2 still have a bonus chance for a Goat, or is that counted as a coke bag? 
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Kikas posted:Doesn't FS2 still have a bonus chance for a Goat, or is that counted as a coke bag? The goat will always spawn, and I will always get it before anyone because the goat is my friend and I need to keep him safely on my back.
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Skunkrocker posted:I just have mine play all of the songs randomly so you never know what you're going to get. Just uncheck the ones you hate in "custom menu playlist" and use "random from playlist" instead
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