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DemeaninDemon posted:Check out the HA Goodman Twitter. It's hilariously delusional. my fave is when he posts the same thing a half dozen times in a row
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I don't suppose anyone's been able to find a comprehensive debunking of the various vote-rigging conspiracy theories revolving around the Democratic primary? I find that people who believe wholeheartedly in them cling to a sort of gish gallop strategy, wherein whenever you challenge their facts on one supposed instance of vote rigging, they shift to another instance and argue that with so many allegations, it must be true! I've found Snopes articles debunking a few of the allegations (some of the stuff that's claimed about New York, or the Indiana thing where the news station accidentally aired a test graphic), but nothing more broad, other than general "the primary wasn't rigged" articles and thinkpieces.
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You show them the actual vote totals, polls, gotv articles, and whatever other facts you can find. If they think that wasn't real votes then they're probably full of poo poo so it's ok to outright call them out on their bullshit. Same way you treat antivaxx douches: start with logic and reason then move onto ridicule because they're full of poo poo.
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DemeaninDemon posted:You show them the actual vote totals, polls, gotv articles, and whatever other facts you can find. If they think that wasn't real votes then they're probably full of poo poo so it's ok to outright call them out on their bullshit. The people I'm thinking of have resorted to "there's video evidence of people whiting out ballots marked for Bernie Sanders," so I'm at a bit of the loss re: logic and reason I'm afraid.
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You're free to do whatever since they're beyond logical arguments.
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Quorum posted:The people I'm thinking of have resorted to "there's video evidence of people whiting out ballots marked for Bernie Sanders," so I'm at a bit of the loss re: logic and reason I'm afraid. Well, probably start with a request for this video evidence.
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Quorum posted:The people I'm thinking of have resorted to "there's video evidence of people whiting out ballots marked for Bernie Sanders," so I'm at a bit of the loss re: logic and reason I'm afraid. In that case, you might try responding with photocopies of your own rear end.
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Respond by asking if they're next to the totally real videos of Muslims cheering 9/11.
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Quorum posted:I don't suppose anyone's been able to find a comprehensive debunking of the various vote-rigging conspiracy theories revolving around the Democratic primary? I find that people who believe wholeheartedly in them cling to a sort of gish gallop strategy, wherein whenever you challenge their facts on one supposed instance of vote rigging, they shift to another instance and argue that with so many allegations, it must be true! I've found Snopes articles debunking a few of the allegations (some of the stuff that's claimed about New York, or the Indiana thing where the news station accidentally aired a test graphic), but nothing more broad, other than general "the primary wasn't rigged" articles and thinkpieces. Most of them rally around this  study done by some random student from Finland or something where he ran a statistical analysis on all exit polling vs actual poll results vs. polling before the election and found a discrepancy where all states with electronic voting while paper ballot states were closer to expected results.I looked into it in good faith because one of my bernout friends was losing his marbles over it and within 30 seconds of digging into his numbers it was really clear he was either making poo poo up whole-cloth or citing numbers from other people who were making poo poo up. But because he pulled it all into a really large and impressive looking report idiots who don't know how to verify research bought it. When I tried pointing out the discrepancies he said I just didn't want to accept the truth and was blinded by that oval office Hillary etc etc. It was the last time I attempted to engage any of them. Necc0 has issued a correction as of 02:51 on Jul 17, 2016 |
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exit polling is consistently garbage and only really useful for crosstabs though
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gently caress it, make mine a perma (USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)
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Jul 19, 2016 19:07
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GOP can't help but poo poo itself.
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Was the Hillary thread deleted? I can't find it.
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bhsman posted:Was the Hillary thread deleted? I can't find it. Got gassed. You can probably guess why.
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Captain_Maclaine posted:Got gassed. You can probably guess why. Yeah. 
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Hey do I have a tag yet?
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Princess Di posted:Hey do I have a tag yet? You need to permatoxx, if I have that right.
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I permatoxx. Now give me da tag!
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Princess Di posted:I permatoxx. Now give me da tag! Welcome to the winners circle.
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DemeaninDemon posted:Welcome to the winners circle. 
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https://twitter.com/immolations/status/750088625556189185
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is alex jones challenging hacksaw jim duggan to a steel cage match
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Put me down for one regular Toxx, please. (USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)
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memy posted:gently caress it, make mine a perma I'm phoneposting, can someone tell me if I got a tag yet
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comes along bort posted:is alex jones challenging hacksaw jim duggan to a steel cage match jim duggan graduated college https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afNOqwJrT8s
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memy posted:I'm phoneposting, can someone tell me if I got a tag yet Not yet, due to the unknowable workings of the universe and totally not my having missed your perma back when you posted it. Nope, nothing like that I don't know why you even brought it up now let's never speak of this again.
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So with tonight's interaction with Ivanka, is a Super PAC going to put together an actual ad about Trump wanting to gently caress his daughter, or just wait for the Daily Show to do their work for them?
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Please sign me up for a perma / Hillary tag if they're still being awarded.
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Gyges posted:So with tonight's interaction with Ivanka, is a Super PAC going to put together an actual ad about Trump wanting to gently caress his daughter, or just wait for the Daily Show to do their work for them? Doesn't the Daily Show still do their "Trump Literally Wants To gently caress His Daughter" banner and jokes and all? Figure that's more than enough.
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ride, donny ride e: oh hey they put that in the pic too, kudos to whoever
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so it's gonna be hillary by like 4 to 7% I'm thinking
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Zas posted:so it's gonna be hillary by like 4 to 7% I'm thinking I am thinking more like 10%. I believe Trump has a hard ceiling at about 42 or 43, so it depends on whether people really are going to vote for Johnson/Stein or not. I think they will each get only 1-2 points. We have a very unusually high number of undecideds right now, and I think most of those people are a hard no on Trump but have not yet come around to admitting that they will vote for Hillary, because she's not exactly the most likable candidate in the world.
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10% makes more intuitive sense to me, but I'm tempering that with the polling averages and the reality of partisanship and so on. if you look at the broad sweep of the polls, especially the 4 way ones, 4-7% seems very consistent except for that period in june where it was 10% for a while
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Zas posted:10% makes more intuitive sense to me, but I'm tempering that with the polling averages and the reality of partisanship and so on. if you look at the broad sweep of the polls, especially the 4 way ones, 4-7% seems very consistent except for that period in june where it was 10% for a while The 3rd party candidates always poll higher than they end up getting though. It always looks like this is going to be the year for the Libertarians or Greens to get a noticeable share of the vote, and they always crash as people go into the voting booth and remember that Gary Johnson isn't winning poo poo so they might as well go with someone who could actually win. I am kind of hoping that the Libertarians win Utah this year though. The poor Mormons can't bring themselves to vote for a hate filled orange lump, but they also can't bring themselves to vote for a Democrat.
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Zas posted:10% makes more intuitive sense to me, but I'm tempering that with the polling averages and the reality of partisanship and so on. if you look at the broad sweep of the polls, especially the 4 way ones, 4-7% seems very consistent except for that period in june where it was 10% for a while Yea 10% would be my gut feeling but it feels like I should bump some points off just for the whole process of polling as a whole and the general weirdness
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it'll be funny and cool if Johnson's % is larger than Hillary's margin of victory, especially in the big 3 swing states. of course Trump is so disliked maybe Republicans will be more forgiving to Johnson than Dems were to Nader. we'll see.
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obviously for the sake of downballots the right thing to hope for is small numbers for trump AND johnson, but it would be a nice consolation prize
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