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Yoshifan823 posted:You assholes arguing about a racist blonde lady heiling American Hitler missed a minor miracle tonight. Alex Jones and Roger Stone crashed the Young Turks and had it out with Cenk. I can't blame Cenk for this or anyone on that set. If you're a liberal or a progressive? It's a been a poo poo week. Christ, I've never felt soul destroyed and that was just me WATCHING the drat thing. Imagine how bad it is to have been in the general area and to have interact with those assholes. In walks Jones demanding a debate right there on set and acting like a confrontational rear end in a top hat. We've all seen how jones acts and boom. I still like TYT quite a bit. I think INFOWARS is a loving cancer.
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FuzzySkinner posted:I can't blame Cenk for this or anyone on that set. The thing that sent Cenk off was Jones holding out a T-shirt with a design like the Obama "HOPE" poster that had Bill Clinton on it and the word "RAPE" Jones also called Ana Kasparian "Jihad Jane" and accused them of defending Saudi Arabia, which is a big lie since I have never seen a story involving Saudi Arabia that isn't critical of them. Cenk was actually really close to getting into a fight with Jones at that point.
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Here's the video of the altercation straight from TYT. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4pX53AqpUs logger posted:The thing that sent Cenk off was Jones holding out a T-shirt with a design like the Obama "HOPE" poster that had Bill Clinton on it and the word "RAPE" This video was right after. Cenk pretty much said he was playing along until he was handed that shirt and that's when he lost his poo poo. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2e9MPx2hy5g Damonic fucked around with this message at 07:17 on Jul 22, 2016 |
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Jul 22, 2016 07:15
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Not gonna lie, when Ben Mankiewicz stood up and whipped his jacket off, I thought he was gonna take a lunge at Jones, but he was just getting in between him and Cenk to make sure Cenk didn't do anything stupid. I think just about anyone would have lost their poo poo the way Cenk did if someone like Jones pulled that poo poo on them. Again, I'm glad Cenk had enough restraint to just scream and swear at him like he deserves to be rather than take the bait and swing at him.
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Jul 22, 2016 07:17
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I loved it when Ana lost her poo poo, telling them to get off of their loving set! lol
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Jul 22, 2016 07:18
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If Alex Jones would have just stood to the side and requested (politely) to come on set? I would BET money Cenk would have let Alex Jones, and Stone on set to discuss various political matters. I think the rape T-shirt was classless, and saying mean poo poo to Anna was also classless. They had every right to be screamed off set at that point.
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Jul 22, 2016 07:25
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I like Cenk and TYT a lot and none of the stuff Cenk was yelling was false. He had every right to be pissed off.
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Jul 22, 2016 07:26
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What is this bullshit about Hillary giving a speech to the KKK? I keep hearing it from conservatives.
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Jul 22, 2016 07:32
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Let me tell you about Klan Great Wizard Ben Ghazi
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beatlegs posted:What is this bullshit about Hillary giving a speech to the KKK? I keep hearing it from conservatives. It's probably something to do with either J. William Fulbright, Senator Robert Byrd, or some other thing from back when Bill was governor of Arkansas. edit: Just checked, and yeah, they're talking about Hillary Clinton eulogizing Robert Byrd in 2010 when he died. Here's his bio: quote:In 1946, Byrd wrote a letter to a Grand Wizard stating, "The Klan is needed today as never before, and I am anxious to see its rebirth here in West Virginia and in every state in the nation."[21] However, when running for the United States House of Representatives in 1952, he announced "After about a year, I became disinterested, quit paying my dues, and dropped my membership in the organization. During the nine years that have followed, I have never been interested in the Klan." He said he had joined the Klan because he felt it offered excitement and was anti-communist.[13] So he was a member for a handful of years in the 1940's, filibustered the 1964 Civil Rights act, but ended up voting for the 1968 Civil Rights act. So he was a standard Dixiecrat that did the work to change his views rather than just change parties when the realignment happened. He was late to the party on some modern social issues, but he should be respected for attempting to keep up with the times rather than shouting loudly while being dragged kicking and screaming into the future like so many conservatives do. ErIog fucked around with this message at 09:10 on Jul 22, 2016 |
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Speaking of the Klan... https://twitter.com/DrDavidDuke/status/756334475223638016
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Leofish posted:Speaking of the Klan... The KKK used to be bad and vote Democrat, but now they're good and vote Republican. No, I don't know when that switch happened. Why do you ask?
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Jul 22, 2016 09:48
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If only Donald Trump knew who that guy even was.
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I'm not a violent dude, but I would have straight uppercutted Jones. Cenk's a big guy, and Jones keeps touching him and patting him on the shoulders and jostling him and stuff. After the first time of telling him to stop, that's Simple Assault and he'd have a pretty clear case for self-defense. I'm glad he didn't hit Jones though, if only because Jones would use it like some sort of badge of honor or 'proof' of his unrelenting bullshit, and his viewers would eat it up cause they're stupid babies. I'm banking on Jones to have been trying to bait him into hitting him, honestly. robotsinmyhead fucked around with this message at 14:13 on Jul 22, 2016 |
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Jul 22, 2016 12:28
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Isn't Alex Jones one of those "the world is run by Illuminati Lizard Men" types you see on Coast to Coast AM and Ancient Aliens? When did he turn hard Republican.
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lynch_69 posted:Isn't Alex Jones one of those "the world is run by Illuminati Lizard Men" types you see on Coast to Coast AM and Ancient Aliens? When did he turn hard Republican. I think about the time he saw Glenn Beck on Fox and his eyes became Scrooge Mc Duck dollar signs. He's still crazy though, and probably more now than ever.
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lynch_69 posted:Isn't Alex Jones one of those "the world is run by Illuminati Lizard Men" types you see on Coast to Coast AM and Ancient Aliens? When did he turn hard Republican. He's not a hard Republican, which you can tell by his support of Trump early on, he's just indistinguishable from the fever swamp of right wing paranoids, the same way he was right there with the Cindy Sheehan crew being a Jessica Lynch truther and 9/11 truther when Bush was president. Glenn Beck actually made a big deal fighting against the birthers, by the way, whereas Alex Jones never met a conspiracy theory he didn't like as long as it was against the current president.
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FuzzySkinner posted:I can't blame Cenk for this or anyone on that set. did Cenk acknowledge the Armenian Genocide?
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I loving hate when people rip on Robert Byrd. Even the god drat NAACP loved him! He's the perfect illustration of how you can change your bigoted views, work to correct your past mistakes and try to help the people you harmed earlier in your life recover. He's exactly the kind of person we should hold up as a role model to people who are racist more out of cultural osmosis than conviction, he shows that they'll be welcomed by society if they sincerely work to better themselves and the positions of others in society.
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No! He's a flip flopper and only changed his positions because he's a crooked politician who's history is filled with inconsistencies and even dead bodies.
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FuzzySkinner posted:I can't blame Cenk for this or anyone on that set. It's been a poo poo week for liberals? If anything this has been like the best week ever for us
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This is a good story about Milo and the alt-right in general. https://medium.com/welcome-to-the-scream-room/im-with-the-banned-8d1b6e0b2932#.ngti8m4u9
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TVs Patrick Duffy posted:This is a good story about Milo and the alt-right in general. Good lord that's a bleak account. I'm with the journalist who just broke down at the end. That poo poo is hosed.
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Levantine posted:Good lord that's a bleak account. I'm with the journalist who just broke down at the end. That poo poo is hosed. I'm more worried about the assertion that even Trump doesn't really have a handle on the hate machine he's using to propel his candidacy.
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Keeshhound posted:I'm more worried about the assertion that even Trump doesn't really have a handle on the hate machine he's using to propel his candidacy. How could he? He barely has control of his own campaign. No, this is exactly the kind of thing that can spiral out of a smart politician's control. With trump its almost a certainty. Trump is on track to lose the election, but if you think the looming specter of fascism that he's conjured is going anywhere after November I've got some bad news.
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Trump has absolutely no handle on this. He probably doesn't even really understand his own popularity. He doesn't understand why the average white American is pissed being a rich member of the elite he supposedly is rallying against. Trump The Candidate is merely an icon that allows angry bigots to express their hatred publicly in a way that can't be easily criticized because he is representing one of the two political parties in the US government. poo poo is going to get real ugly in November regardless of if he wins or loses. Eggplant Squire fucked around with this message at 15:46 on Jul 22, 2016 |
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Keeshhound posted:I'm more worried about the assertion that even Trump doesn't really have a handle on the hate machine he's using to propel his candidacy. Trump isn't the Shrieking White-Hot Sphere Of Pure Rage, he's just its current representative. One misstep too many and he'll be consumed by it as have so many others who tried to control its power.
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TVs Patrick Duffy posted:This is a good story about Milo and the alt-right in general. God drat, do I like how she writes.
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Keeshhound posted:I'm more worried about the assertion that even Trump doesn't really have a handle on the hate machine he's using to propel his candidacy. Yeah, it's terrifying but I've felt that way all along. He's just riding the wave but he doesn't control the ocean.
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Zanzibar Ham posted:Trump isn't the Shrieking White-Hot Sphere Of Pure Rage, he's just its current representative. One misstep too many and he'll be consumed by it as have so many others who tried to control its power. It will be at once wonderful and terrible to behold.
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8 years ago, Sarah Palin more or less launched the tea party movement into a real thing of taking the country back, despite her and McCain losing. Trump will probably lose, but the ideas he's sowed are going to be around for awhile, and might create a new movement similar to Palin. We've had a black guy in the oval office, and soon we'll probably have a woman. Mad Whitey will continue to get more angry. My biggest fear is that Fox News being under new management might have them consider going alt-right, and it reinvents them into a new thing.
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Leofish posted:Speaking of the Klan... I'm not sure if this is better or worse than Sally Atwater, Lee's widow, saying Trump "reminds me of my husband."
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seiferguy posted:My biggest fear is that Fox News being under new management might have them consider going alt-right, and it reinvents them into a new thing. In other words, you're scared that you(r friends) will start agreeing with Fox.
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Keeshhound posted:I'm more worried about the assertion that even Trump doesn't really have a handle on the hate machine he's using to propel his candidacy. Trump wins or Trump loses. We're hosed either way... No, not because Clinton is abhorrent, but because if he loses, this ball of white rage will go super-critical and the culture war will undoubtedly get violent. It might not even be the right that starts it, but moderate and left Americans who are sick and tired of having human decency portrayed as a character flaw. Chilichimp fucked around with this message at 16:19 on Jul 22, 2016 |
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seiferguy posted:8 years ago, Sarah Palin more or less launched the tea party movement into a real thing of taking the country back, despite her and McCain losing. Trump will probably lose, but the ideas he's sowed are going to be around for awhile, and might create a new movement similar to Palin. We've had a black guy in the oval office, and soon we'll probably have a woman. Mad Whitey will continue to get more angry. I fear the day that the rest of the media begin supporting the alt-right as legitimate. We're already getting white supremacy as a campaign promise. If this continues, we'll see straight up Nazis become merely "controversial". Trump has ridden the wave of something that will haunt us as a nation for decades to come.
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I am slightly more optimistic. I feel like the Alt-Right is destined to implode just like the Tea Party did. We're not seeing the rise of a secret underbelly of the American soul as much we're seeing a vestigial limb of modern society shrieking as it dies. This is an ugly transition, but I think the transition is happening for the good.
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Jurgan posted:I'm not sure if this is better or worse than Sally Atwater, Lee's widow, saying Trump "reminds me of my husband." Freepers are making that comparison with the Trump campaign chairman, I forget his name, but the one that said last night that Trump will win women because they can no longer live their lifestyles because their husbands don't bring home enough money to pay the bills any longer.
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McGlockenshire posted:Freepers are making that comparison with the Trump campaign chairman, I forget his name, but the one that said last night that Trump will win women because they can no longer live their lifestyles because their husbands don't bring home enough money to pay the bills any longer. Paul Manafort, aka Satan. I had to rewind when he said that to make sure I heard it right.
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McGlockenshire posted:Freepers are making that comparison with the Trump campaign chairman, I forget his name, but the one that said last night that Trump will win women because they can no longer live their lifestyles because their husbands don't bring home enough money to pay the bills any longer. What stupid trust fund babies is he talking about? The lower and middle class depends on double incomes to even scratch at the toes of prosperity. "We're gonna win rich women, that's right! Also we're gonna win fictional women from the 1950's! YEAH!" Chilichimp fucked around with this message at 17:05 on Jul 22, 2016 |
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