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gradenko_2000 posted:Implying that Hillary Clinton is poo poo. One is the 3 day diarrhea from bad Chinese food buffet and the other is that poo poo that just won't come out. I'll take the latter easily but they're both awful.
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Lessail posted:That just makes it look like the picard emote is dumb as gently caress You walk two miles before noon and come up with perfect analogies mr. tough guy. 
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Uranium Phoenix posted:This is also fascinating to me. People in this thread are going apeshit about votes, and yet, Hilary's vote for a horrifying war that led to even worse things is dismissed as something that doesn't matter. Which is it? Have you been deceived by the authorities to believe that Trump is actually a great guy and it won't be terrible if he wins?
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MariusLecter posted:You walk two miles before noon and come up with perfect analogies mr. tough guy. It still works just not how you wanted it to! A Good Analogy
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Yinlock posted:I admitted that I have no idea why someone would let Trump take power. So after your deep and involved research, you figure that letting a fascist rule the country would be better than voting for Hillary. Arrgytehpirate posted:"We may have a fascist president but I stood on my moral high ground" ~ you in November BI NOW GAY LATER posted:It's stupid posturing. Spiritus Nox posted:The current Democratic candidate aligns with my personal policy of don't be an actual goddamned Nazi, Jesus Christ
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Nitrousoxide posted:One is the 3 day diarrhea from bad Chinese food buffet and the other is that poo poo that just won't come out. Oh I love the edgy "both sides are really bad, let me pull my lever for Gary loving Johnson" dude lecturing us.
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Uranium Phoenix posted:This is also fascinating to me. People in this thread are going apeshit about votes, and yet, Hilary's vote for a horrifying war that led to even worse things is dismissed as something that doesn't matter. Which is it? Listening to the two candidates, it seems that Trump at least would be less likely to involve us in military adventures overseas.
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Uranium Phoenix posted:Again, this sort of poo poo has never convinced anyone of anything. I am not trying to convince you of anything, because you're pretty clearly not open to being persuaded.
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greatn posted:I don't think "opposite guy is bad" is ever a more compelling argument than "this person is pretty good" Then you're a fool
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Uranium Phoenix posted:Again, this sort of poo poo has never convinced anyone of anything. I don't think you're convinceable, because there is no standard by which Trump could be a better president than Hillary, even if everything he says about her is true This is what voting entitlement looks like, by the way.
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Uranium Phoenix posted:Again, this sort of poo poo has never convinced anyone of anything. Implying that you were capable of being convinced. Listen, if a guy running on a platform of "Dropping the Crypto from Cryptofascism" doesn't convince you, nothing will. You're just looking for a reason to justify making a terrible choice. And you chose because people weren't respectful of your ignorance.
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Armyman25 posted:Listening to the two candidates, it seems that Trump at least would be less likely to involve us in military adventures overseas. Uh, did you miss that he said were going STOP ISIS with Military Action?
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Uranium Phoenix posted:Again, this sort of poo poo has never convinced anyone of anything. Right, because people like you have already made up your mind so there's no convincing you. Edit: ^^^^^^^ lol I'm so late
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Uranium Phoenix posted:Again, this sort of poo poo has never convinced anyone of anything. Crying about how people are being unfair to the poor fascist supporters also doesn't help much, but it hasn't seemed to stop you.
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Armyman25 posted:Listening to the two candidates, it seems that Trump at least would be less likely to involve us in military adventures overseas. Well, you're obviously not listening to either candidate then.
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:Uh, did you miss that he said were going STOP ISIS with Military Action? So you're saying that the current administration isn't already doing that?
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I don't care what you guys say, Bush and Gore are both equally as bad, so I'm voting for Nader.
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Uranium Phoenix posted:This is also fascinating to me. People in this thread are going apeshit about votes, and yet, Hilary's vote for a horrifying war that led to even worse things is dismissed as something that doesn't matter. Which is it? It matters. It was a mistake and she regrets it. She bears some responsibility, a lot less than the administration that pushed the war and lied about it to get congress to authorize it. But it's only one issue, and frankly, one she's a lot more qualified to try to fix than her opponent.
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DaveWoo posted:I don't care what you guys say, Bush and Gore are both equally as bad, so I'm voting for Nader. Literally me in 2000. There actually wasn't a candidate in the primaries this year that either 1) consistently opposed the Iraq war or 2) consistently voted against measures to fund and extend it.
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Guys i'm not sure about this choice between a businesswoman and a man saluting a golden swastika while promising to purge the country of undesirables, maybe the truth is somewhere in the middle?
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Uranium Phoenix posted:Again, this sort of poo poo has never convinced anyone of anything. Counterpoint - me
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Armyman25 posted:So you're saying that the current administration isn't already doing that? He's talking about glassing the middle east, not anything near our current levels of military intervention, dude. It's not even loving comparable.
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Armyman25 posted:Listening to the two candidates, it seems that Trump at least would be less likely to involve us in military adventures overseas. Until they insulted his hand size. But "less likely to involve us in overseas adventures" is an interesting way to phrase "will abandon NATO allies immediately while promising to glass the Middle East and commit actual 100% war crimes" sure. Ravenfood fucked around with this message at 16:57 on Jul 22, 2016 |
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:He's talking about glassing the middle east, not anything near our current levels of military intervention, dude. It's not even loving comparable. As opposed to Hillary, who called for regime change in Syria during one of the policy debates with Sanders?
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Like I fully understand that there's a lot of nuance to many political situations, but this is really not one of them.
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:He's talking about glassing the middle east, not anything near our current levels of military intervention, dude. It's not even loving comparable. You see stepped up involvement with a handful of special forces is the exact same as nuclear war because...
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Also, Bernouts, this is what disparaging your primary opponent looks like...  but sure, I guess surrendering the decision on who could replace her as president is totally the same thing
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Armyman25 posted:As opposed to Hillary, who called for regime change in Syria during one of the policy debates with Sanders? Your right, Trump is better, because I think his policy of "if someone invades a NATO country we'll think about supporting them if they pay us enough $$$$$$$" is good and smart
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:Then vote for Jill Stein and shut the gently caress up. See, this sort of poo poo I just don't understand. Do you want to understand why someone might not like Clinton so you can convince more people to vote for her? Or do you just want to prance about on what you think is the moral high ground and feel good about your righteous indignation? I guess I could go away and you could return to your circlejerk of only talking to people who agree with you, but I don't really think that's productive or very interesting to read, really. zoux posted:So what is your justification for not voting for the person opposing the literal fascist? Do you think that Trump's potential harm has been overstated?
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The rnc just had 4 straight days of telling america they lust for brown death like where have people been. Trump wants operation pound dirt forever.
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Uranium Phoenix posted:One of the problem Clinton supporters seem to have is that they have no idea why people wouldn't want to vote Clinton, and seemingly no conception of political action beyond voting. When you dismiss broad, diverse groups of people's reasons for disliking a candidate as "reasons you can't elucidate and can't admit are emotional in nature," you're talking out of your rear end. Plenty of people have been talking about why they dislike Clinton (for several threads), and explained reasons that have nothing to do with emotional reactions. If you aren't going to bother to respond to what people are actually saying, you can continue to convince absolutely no one of your ideas. people have been poo poo talking clinton for a very long time, and most if not all of it is baseless. i remember learning anti-hillary political jokes in elementary school, as kids just repeated what their dads would rant about around the dinner table. at this point i'm so fatigued with anti-hillary outrage that i just chalk up any complaints to baseless whining and i don't care if any person is convinced or not about her guilt or innocence, i just tune all that stuff out like i do so many other dumb theories or poltical nonsense. "i don't trust clinton" is basically the same as "i dont trust mexicans" to me  Uranium Phoenix posted:See, this sort of poo poo I just don't understand. Do you want to understand why someone might not like Clinton so you can convince more people to vote for her? Or do you just want to prance about on what you think is the moral high ground and feel good about your righteous indignation? I guess I could go away and you could return to your circlejerk of only talking to people who agree with you, but I don't really think that's productive or very interesting to read, really. vote for her or dont, your vote doesn't matter in the long run and the only thing more tedious then getting to the core of why people don't trust hillary is people loudly proclaiming why they need to be personally disabused of their elemental distrust of hillary
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Uranium Phoenix posted:I'll work on an effortpost to try and explain it. Please don't. https://twitter.com/elliosch/status/756512997066113024 Help, I'm too woke to see a difference in the candidates!!
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Armyman25 posted:As opposed to Hillary, who called for regime change in Syria during one of the policy debates with Sanders? Regime change in Syria is our current administration policy which is a wee bit different from starting WW3. But what are details!
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Don't blame me, I voted for Harambe in the primaries.
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Uranium Phoenix posted:Please don't be rude. Lmao I'm super looking forward to this. "It's not that I'm a horrific authoritarian racist, honest! I just support the guy all the other authoritarian racists support, completely coincidentally!"
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zoux posted:I don't think you're convinceable, because there is no standard by which Trump could be a better president than Hillary, even if everything he says about her is true He's this guy:  http://everydayfeminism.com/2016/06/what-not-voting-really-means/ Gynocentric Regime fucked around with this message at 17:01 on Jul 22, 2016 |
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Also I am one of the BernieBros that was convinced to vote HRC rather than let Actually Hitler Reincarnated win. I may even volunteer because I feel I need to do everything I can to stop him.
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Yinlock posted:Guys i'm not sure about this choice between a businesswoman and a man saluting a golden swastika while promising to purge the country of undesirables, maybe the truth is somewhere in the middle? This is a fair and moral stance.
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If Sanders had won I'd be pulling the lever with both hands. But he didn't, so Hillary it is. I've actually become more amenable to her as time went on, because her negative image seems to be constructed entirely of poorly-thought out memes and I don't particularly like the people spouting them from either side of the political aisle. On the right there's an entire thriving industry constructed to paint her as everything everyone hates forever, and on the left there appears to be a ghastly parade of the spectres of myself when I was nineteen. She's a triangulator and talks like you need to deposit 25 cents into a slot somewhere to get a new paragraph out of her, but beyond that I have no idea how much of the negativity surrounding her is true and how much is nonsense ginned up by idiots. Trump, on the other hand, makes his horrific behavior into a selling point. It's not a difficult choice.
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Uranium Phoenix posted:Please don't be rude. Oh, please get down off the cross. We've got other people who want to take a turn. But if you want to make a post about why you actually don't want to support Clinton instead of making unreasonable demands, go ahead. I'll listen.
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