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Alright, who decided the default Fencer controls should be left hand gun fired by right mouse button and right hand gun fired by left mouse button? Because that person is a monster (Change this in the fencer specific controls!). And if anyone else spent a match going "how do I fire the depth crawlers gatling gun" the answer is apparently left shift, the most logical shooting button.
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Jul 22, 2016 17:52
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This game must be a nightmare on a gamepad, it requires tons of extremely rapid precision aiming. For some of the vehicles I can see it, but that's such a small part of the game.
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Jul 22, 2016 18:03
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Yeah, I wouldn't want to use a gamepad for this when m+kb is an option. The mouse and keyboard controls actually work quite well once you are in game, and it definitely helps with rapid precision aim. The menu controls are kind of bad, but it is tolerable. I agree that the fencer's left and right being swapped is silly though.
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Jul 22, 2016 18:09
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*precisely aims this weapon which levels 16 city blocks*
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Jul 22, 2016 18:09
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DatonKallandor posted:This game must be a nightmare on a gamepad, it requires tons of extremely rapid precision aiming. For some of the vehicles I can see it, but that's such a small part of the game. It's not that bad and you usually don't need to be that precise. These things have been console only for over a decade: they're built for controllers.
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Jul 22, 2016 18:11
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Sure, I have no doubt controllers work fine, but why handicap yourself? Precision can be handy, and weapons that level city blocks aren't always the most party friendly.
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Jul 22, 2016 18:14
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^^^^ Especially when fighting transports, it's much easier to get hits even when only a sliver of the weakpoint is exposed quickly with a mouse.Filthy Monkey posted:Yeah, I wouldn't want to use a gamepad for this when m+kb is an option. The mouse and keyboard controls actually work quite well once you are in game, and it definitely helps with rapid precision aim. The menu controls are kind of bad, but it is tolerable. I've found the menu controls really good, because they are extremely consistent - WASD moves, left click confirms, right click backs out. I've seen way worse from bad ports (not that EDF is a bad port).
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Jul 22, 2016 18:14
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I didn't really matter in the PS2 days whether you were levelling the Big Ben tower on the Houses of Parliament as long as the bugs were flying. BTW, I call bullshit on the "giant insects cant fly" plot. They did fly the games covering the first invasion.
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Jul 22, 2016 18:15
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DatonKallandor posted:^^^^ Especially when fighting transports, it's much easier to get hits even when only a sliver of the weakpoint is exposed quickly with a mouse. And then you bump your mouse, even while using a gamepad, and have no clue where the gently caress you just scrolled.
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Jul 22, 2016 18:17
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I like that my default method of farming weapons as fencer is "What weapon will kill me the fastest?" and "How many weapon boxes did I get? More than 2? Oh shi- *explodes and loses everything*".
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Jul 22, 2016 18:19
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SelenicMartian posted:BTW, I call bullshit on the "giant insects cant fly" plot. They did fly the games covering the first invasion. I just assume that everyone thought that the war was over for good, so the position for military bug expert would go to whomever you want to sideline and keep away from any actual important work. Fully aware of that, the guy in that position reads up on it as the invasion unfolds as his job, prior to the events of the game, was just 'showing up to work' and 'not get caught watching porn on the job'. This is of course just me trying to compensate for a terrible story. But than, this game would still be awesome if the narrator would just randomly sprout ww1-era propaganda with no connection to what's happening on-screen.
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Jul 22, 2016 18:22
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InfinityComplex posted:I like that my default method of farming weapons as fencer is "What weapon will kill me the fastest?" and "How many weapon boxes did I get? More than 2? Oh shi- *explodes and loses everything*". A few minutes ago I was just about to get hector D-Day done on Hardest as fencer for the first time. I'd already gathered four boxes, and there were only three hectors left to take out. So I just hung back, lined up a shot with my heavy mortar, and at the very last moment some loving rookie jumps right in front of me and the explosion both killed us instantly. 
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Jul 22, 2016 18:24
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Filthy Monkey posted:Sure, I have no doubt controllers work fine, but why handicap yourself? Precision can be handy, and weapons that level city blocks aren't always the most party friendly. If you've been this series since Playstation 1, it's not an issue at all and the gamepad is great.
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Jul 22, 2016 18:26
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Polo-Rican posted:If a modding community grows around EDF, what mods would YOU like to see? I'd like to see some enemies ported over from Insect Armageddon and EDF 2 but that's probably asking too much.
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Jul 22, 2016 18:29
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Yeah, needs more centipedes
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Jul 22, 2016 18:29
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Do anyone know how to send out invites on PC? I can see the see invite requests but haven't been able to figure out how to actually invite.
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Jul 22, 2016 18:38
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SelenicMartian posted:BTW, I call bullshit on the "giant insects cant fly" plot. They did fly the games covering the first invasion. EDF2 was set in 2019 and covers a second invasion that is out of continuity with 4.1. IA was set in 2017 and was presumably suposed to be in continity with EDF3 but either Sandlot chose to ignore it (likely) or Ohara doesn't know anything about GIANT IN-SECTS (also likely). I care possibly a little to much about my prescious EDF cannon & continuity. Mr Phillby fucked around with this message at 18:44 on Jul 22, 2016 |
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Jul 22, 2016 18:39
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The only EDF cannon I need is the one I'm pointing at the bugs.
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Jul 22, 2016 18:41
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Mr Phillby posted:GIANT IN-SECTS
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Jul 22, 2016 18:44
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4.1 takes place after one space war, presumably EDF 3 / 2017. since 3 is kind of a remake of 1, 4 is probably kind of a remake of 2, although they are pretty different. If you really need the games to connect your best chance is to pretend that 2 and IA are different fronts of the first war. This doesn't really work with things said on the radio, but you can pretend.
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Jul 22, 2016 18:46
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^^^^^^ You'd also have to ignore the opening plot crawl in EDF2. It's best to just imagine there are two evil alien races with lots of giant bugs (The Invaders & The Ravagers) with designs on Earth. At some point they flipped a coin over who would invade and EDF1&2/EDF3&4 are a sort of Sliding Doors type situation based on the outcome. dis astranagant posted:The only EDF cannon I need is the one I'm pointing at the bugs. Don't you also need the aditional two that uselessly fire at 45° to the main barrel? Mr Phillby fucked around with this message at 18:53 on Jul 22, 2016 |
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Jul 22, 2016 18:46
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Somebody mod in the Deroys from GDF. More games from the Simple series could use sequels, like R.A.D. and Demolition Girl.
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Jul 22, 2016 18:48
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I am now on Inferno fisting spiders to death. I still only have 12 misisons unlocked in the main campaign.
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Jul 22, 2016 18:49
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Mechayahiko posted:Do anyone know how to send out invites on PC? I can see the see invite requests but haven't been able to figure out how to actually invite. Use the D-Pad menu(not sure how to do it on a keyboard/mouse, it's where the gestures and singing is) to go down to the second or third to last entry and pick Send Invite. It pops up the Steam overlay with your friends list. Mr Phillby posted:EDF2 was set in 2019 and covers a second invasion that is out of continuity with 4.1. IA was set in 2017 and was presumably suposed to be in continity with EDF3 but either Sandlot chose to ignore it (likely) or Ohara doesn't know anything about GIANT IN-SECTS (also likely). I think Ohara is just an Internet scientist. He calls dragons insects. Obsurveyor fucked around with this message at 18:53 on Jul 22, 2016 |
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Mr Phillby posted:EDF2 was set in 2019 and covers a second invasion that is out of continuity with 4.1. IA was set in 2017 and was presumably suposed to be in continity with EDF3 but either Sandlot chose to ignore it (likely) or Ohara doesn't know anything about GIANT IN-SECTS (also likely). Ohara was the "ravager researcher" and until the connection was established, "ravager" == "spaceships and robots".
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Jul 22, 2016 18:59
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Is 2017 Portable canon? Who really killed the mothership then: Storm One or Pale Wing? Inquiring minds must know!
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Obsurveyor posted:Use the D-Pad menu(not sure how to do it on a keyboard/mouse, it's where the gestures and singing is) to go down to the second or third to last entry and pick Send Invite. It pops up the Steam overlay with your friends list.
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SelenicMartian posted:Somebody mod in the Deroys from GDF. RAD is also sort of part of a larger series of game that did get more games in japan. Look up 'Robot Control Dandy'.
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Jul 22, 2016 19:03
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Saint Freak posted:Is 2017 Portable canon? Who really killed the mothership then: Storm One or Pale Wing? Inquiring minds must know! The original implication was that Rangers (well, Storm 1) took down the initial mothership, and then after the war they developed the jetpacks and fencer's reflector shields. If you want to smash the canon all together, you can declare they built the jetpacks during the first war somewhere and then Rangers and Pale Wings took it down. I still haven't found tons of time to play it but the vita version of EDF 2 seems like the radio figures out early on that they are ordering around Storm 1 and that Storm 1 can do anything, so that's fun.
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fritz posted:Ohara was the "ravager researcher" and until the connection was established, "ravager" == "spaceships and robots". Saint Freak posted:Is 2017 Portable canon? Who really killed the mothership then: Storm One or Pale Wing? Inquiring minds must know! Obsurveyor posted:I think Ohara is just an Internet scientist. He calls dragons insects.
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Jul 22, 2016 19:13
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Look man, when every giant bio-anomaly has been GIANT IN-SECTS and you're hired specifically for your specialization in Ravagers AND you managed to gently caress up on saying "Thank goodness there are no FLYING IN-SECTS!" you're going to call dragons some evolved GIANT IN-SECT just in case. But he has no excuse for Erginus. That's clearly a godzilla.
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How the hell does he know the term Retiarius though? Maybe he's like a history major or something.
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Jul 22, 2016 19:35
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The wasps were the most annoying enemy is EDF:IA so I'm not complaining.
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Saint Freak posted:How the hell does he know the term Retiarius though? Maybe he's like a history major or something. Alternatively:  
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Jul 22, 2016 19:38
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Proof he's just some dude searching everything he hears over the radio. If this was the US, the FCC would have shut him down for his pirate broadcasts.
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Jul 22, 2016 19:40
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If you ask Ohara, almost all the biological enemies in the game are the exact same species in different stages of "evolution" (he probably means metamorphosis or something the way he talks about it). If you strung together all his lines about such and such "must be the evolved version of..." it would go something like black ant -> queen ant -> flying bug -> death queen -> dragon -> Erginus while all somehow being the same creature. Also Erginus wishes it was Godzilla. Human military forces can't do poo poo against Godzilla, unless they have an oxygen destroyer, maybe. 
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Polo-Rican posted:If a modding community grows around EDF, what mods would YOU like to see?
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Insert name here posted:Probably make the helicopters easier to fly, especially with KB/M and turning the drat things. Actually I'd like to mess with turret turns on the ground vehicles too since they're kinda sluggish to handle but at least those I can deal with. I'd love it if the controls for the crawler were relative to the screen and not static with the orientation of the vehicle. It's already screwing with you by how much the view changes just going horizontal to vertical and then you crawl up the side of a tunnel at an angle and you have to press down and to the right to move the turret up.
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Polo-Rican posted:If a modding community grows around EDF, what mods would YOU like to see? Playable enemy units. Especially if they have cute little EDF helmets on their giant insect heads.
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