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Perk checks could actually work even better than skill checks, since you don't have to come up with an arbitrary number to attach to it. They'd need to restrict it to rank 1 of each perk or take away the level gating, but being able to hack a thing for a new quest solution thanks to your high SCIENCE!!!!!!!!!!!! or convince someone in a territory dispute to come live on your farm because you're a Local Leader, that kind of stuff would be cool. Just give the quest designers a list of all the perks and say "use your imagination"
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The Bramble posted:Is a melee character in Survival just an unworkable idea? I'd like to try something different after I finish with my gunslinger/sniper, but I can't imagine not playing on Survival mode.
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2house2fly posted:Perk checks could actually work even better than skill checks, since you don't have to come up with an arbitrary number to attach to it. They'd need to restrict it to rank 1 of each perk or take away the level gating, but being able to hack a thing for a new quest solution thanks to your high SCIENCE!!!!!!!!!!!! or convince someone in a territory dispute to come live on your farm because you're a Local Leader, that kind of stuff would be cool. Just give the quest designers a list of all the perks and say "use your imagination" Agreed and that's probably what they would have done if their speech stuff planned out how they wanted. I still would love to have an interview about their dev process and why, with all this time and money, delivered a fairly tepid game in that regard.
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Jul 22, 2016 05:46
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There's at least one perk check coded into the game as is. In Far Harbor you can sweet talk some cannibal trappers if you're a cannibal. If the whole game had that it'd be neat.
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Roadie posted:
What we actually got was more like: Questgiver: "I need you to go kill these ferals. Will you do it?" code:
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Speedball posted:There's at least one perk check coded into the game as is. In Far Harbor you can sweet talk some cannibal trappers if you're a cannibal. If the whole game had that it'd be neat. That reminds me of how fallout 3 has cannibal in the actual lore. And they have that group of cannibals who came together and learned to live in bloodpacks instead. If I recall correctly. If the player has the cannibal perk, they teach you a way to get more health from blood packs.
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That was one of the worst quests of Fallout 3, bar none.
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I still don't understand if they were actually meant to be supernatural or just mentally ill. For certain that quest was terrible, though.
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Jul 22, 2016 06:48
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Am I the only one who found that quest all deep and spiritual and stuff? Or did that all come from me being a 20 something nightwish fangirl at the time? It plucked all my heartstrings anyway. I believe supernatural was the idea because this child had apparently butchered his parents with his bare hands and then eaten them. Violent enough that the local authorities assumed it was a death claw attack or something. Like he was a hairless werewolf.
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Jul 22, 2016 06:52
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Mis-posted. Woops. My iPad ate the long post. Ugh.
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Zephyrine posted:That reminds me of how fallout 3 has cannibal in the actual lore. And they have that group of cannibals who came together and learned to live in bloodpacks instead. I can't remember if you got the blood pack health boost thing for having a perk, or if it was just based on resolving the quest peacefully and then telling what's his name you wanted to join the family.
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Volkerball posted:I can't remember if you got the blood pack health boost thing for having a perk, or if it was just based on resolving the quest peacefully and then telling what's his name you wanted to join the family. He teaches you the perk. Many perks came from quests or other requirements (like "free radical" in new vegas)
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Zephyrine posted:Am I the only one who found that quest all deep and spiritual and stuff? Or did that all come from me being a 20 something nightwish fangirl at the time? It plucked all my heartstrings anyway. I don't know what any of those things are but every time I tried to go into that sewer and talk to the sewer vampires they just talked crazy gibberish and the only way to resolve the situation was to splatter them all over the walls, that's why I don't like it.
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Zephyrine posted:He teaches you the perk. Yeah but i don't know what triggers him to teach it to you.
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The trigger on getting the perk for blood packs is to get the people from Arefu to agree to provide blood to the cannibals voluntarily in exchange for protection, not just get them to stop attacking the town. Kind of a useless perk though, since all it does is increase the amount of health from blood packs from 1 to 20 and who's carrying a lot of blood packs?
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Deific Presence posted:Are there any good settlement building guides, like for each individual settlement? I already know the basics, I just want advice for expanding beyond the dilapidated static buildings and the best uses for each settlement (shopping mall, junk farm, water farm, and food farms) For water mills you can use Sanctuary, Egret Tours, and Taffington Boathouse (due east of Covenant.) Abernathy, County Crossing are very flat and well/suited for adhesive farming. Greentop Nursery and Graygarden already have greenhouses with plants inside. But I especially like Abernathy (renamed New Abernathy in neon letters) because you can perch 4 missile launchers on each corner of the tall farmhouse like gargoyles of death. Starlight is perfect for setting up vendors, general town-building and imaginative potential. I thought I would grow to love Oberland Station due to the unique train tracks and early-game centralization but it's been nothing short of a pain in the rear end.
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Small update about my yesterdays scavenge run for antibiotics: I searched all first aid kits which I could get a hold in the usual locations at the start of the game, found 0 antibiotics in them. It was quite funny as I stopped healing myself so I had no life and was getting killed by random bloatflies. Once this didn't work, I managed to reach a level and invested a skill-point in lockpicking, trying to scavenge first-aid kits in few places which I found which were hidden behind an advanced lock. No antibiotics there too. I kind of gave up at this stage and the next suggestion which was made was visiting the Ghoul doctor close to the massively irradiated shack. She had 2(!) antibiotics! Knowing that, I reloaded the game, got from Sanctuary to her place and started heading back to Sanctuary to save the game again. I died to a random mine on the way back  Once more, load, walk to the doctor, bloatfly, killed. Load, walk to the doctor, buy antibiotics, walk back, heal, sleep. Wake up, get the fatigue infection.  I'm not curing this one for now, don't know if I can get another infection to have 2 but I'm not wasting my last antibiotics on this crap. The only bright side is that now once I levelled up, I spent the the Perk to +1 Int, so on next level up I can get the Chemist perk. Also: don't play survival if you're pissed at the game, cause you'll be doing stupid mistakes.
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Anytime I hit a wall where I use the same Survival reload three times; bedtime.
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Heh, speaking of where to find the doc caravan, I jumped into screw around a bit while my dinner cooked, and caught the doc coming south down the road from the Museum of Witchcraft/Crater House area, right by Lugowski's Cannery. After I swapped loot for meds/scrap/all his caps, they headed off directly Don't know if he was making a run to the Lighthouse or Costal Cottage or what, but at least they didn't get caught up when I saw blowing up cars with my Two-Shot Radium Rifle. 
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Some useful antibiotics-related tips that you probably already know - the Chemist perk (7 intelligence) lets you make your own at a chemistry station, and setting up a clinic at your settlement with Medic/Local Leader gives you a personal doc to patch up your disease whenever.
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potaties posted:Some useful antibiotics-related tips that you probably already know - the Chemist perk (7 intelligence) lets you make your own at a chemistry station, and setting up a clinic at your settlement with Medic/Local Leader gives you a personal doc to patch up your disease whenever. Yeah, that's my plan - to get the Chemist perk. I'm few attribute points short from the local leader, which may not have been the brightest idea, but we will see.
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kaaj posted:Yeah, that's my plan - to get the Chemist perk. I'm few attribute points short from the local leader, which may not have been the brightest idea, but we will see. I have found Survival more fun without settlements. Particularly with the Conquest mod that lets you camp.
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Personally I couldn't run with a mod that allowed for anywhere sleeping. There are enough mattresses and sleeping bags (and empty bottles) strewn away in hidden corners that I have to figure they were planning for survival constraints when designing the map. Going without settlements, though, could be a thing. Cutting yourself off from abundant clean water filling stations could prolong the need to manage resources. Then again, more than once I've been on a long jaunt and in need of a rest only to come across a mattress that's baked into the terrain and unusable, before getting one-shotted by a Fat Man-wielding raider dreadnaught or a kamikaze assaultron. But then after I'm through being mad it ends up being kind of funny. I only keep an autosaving mod running at this point for the occasional lockup or geometry trap. Speaking of lockups, I complained last week about the game hard-locking my system using VATS and some random neoGAF poster or something like that revealed the answer - limiting the number of CPU cores used under the [general] section of the .ini. Worked for FO3, apparently, and it works for this game. Basic Chunnel fucked around with this message at 19:07 on Jul 22, 2016 |
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Basic Chunnel posted:Personally I couldn't run with a mod that allowed for anywhere sleeping. There are enough mattresses and sleeping bags (and empty bottles) strewn away in hidden corners that I have to figure they were planning for survival constraints when designing the map. Going without settlements, though, could be a thing. Cutting yourself off from abundant clean water filling stations could prolong the need to manage resources. I'm probably a dork but I won't sleep in random exposed raider beds or whatever. My dude only sleeps in a sheltered camp with a fire and cooking pot. Either high ground outside with a tent or in a secure building. Upgrading your gear without settlements is also interesting because you have to keep track of every bit of scrap you need for your next mod and you can't just Hoover up every good junk item because there's no place to store things. E: this reminds me one thing I really want for survival mode is those random attacks that can happen in Baldurs Gate when you sleep in an insecure location. Seashell Salesman fucked around with this message at 19:25 on Jul 22, 2016 |
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Yeah I messed that up for myself by running with the CYBER armature stuff (which is very cool but very broken) and bot building. Even if you give them the weakest carry weight they still lift more than any companion, save for maybe Strong
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Seashell Salesman posted:E: this reminds me one thing I really want for survival mode is those random attacks that can happen in Baldurs Gate when you sleep in an insecure location. I wouldn't mind seeing this in normal mode, even. Seriously, often enough you come wandering by and someone is still zonked out, or just alerting to you and getting up - the Lone Wanderer would be getting licked awake by Glowing Feral Everything, or, even more amusing, having the "alarm clock" being some Jet psycho climbing into the power armor they finally crawled out of oh god it was only twenty minutes ago fuckmylife...
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So apparently yesterday's patch was supposed to add Save on Exit, even in survival mode. Didn't work, lost about 2 hours of play. Lame.
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Deific Presence posted:So apparently yesterday's patch was supposed to add Save on Exit, even in survival mode. Didn't work, lost about 2 hours of play. Lame. That seems like one of those things I'd have tested and not taken on faith in Bethesda's coding
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The beta patch on PC saved for me only when I exited to the menu and not the desktop, if that's any consolation
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I recently discovered there was a NPC named Regi Blattaria that drops a gatling laser, I am still "relatively" early in the story I have already met the real Shaun(I am lvl 59 though) he should have been at his spawn point from what I understand but I haven't seen him... I am wondering if I hit that spot too early in the game and now I am screwed out of meeting with him. I am on the PS4 if it matters. Any suggestions? Besides get it from the brotherhood of steel  Thanks
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dazoner posted:I recently discovered there was a NPC named Regi Blattaria that drops a gatling laser, I am still "relatively" early in the story I have already met the real Shaun(I am lvl 59 though) he should have been at his spawn point from what I understand but I haven't seen him... I am wondering if I hit that spot too early in the game and now I am screwed out of meeting with him. I am on the PS4 if it matters. I don't know if his position is random or not but I ran into that guy for the first time last weekend. He was up on the second floor in that bombed out house full of radroaches just west of Corvega. I had walked past that house many many times on survival after clearing it early on in the game so he took me by surprise and killed me the first time. I was somewhere in the 40's when it happened.
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Anyone ever been exploring far harbor and been oneshot by a gulper that mysteriously seemed to just teleport up behind them? Happened to me a few times earlier on survival, and I just figured it out. The loving things hide in trees. Like they literally hang upside down by the tail and wait for stuff to walk underneath them.
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J-Spot posted:I don't know if his position is random or not but I ran into that guy for the first time last weekend. He was up on the second floor in that bombed out house full of radroaches just west of Corvega. I had walked past that house many many times on survival after clearing it early on in the game so he took me by surprise and killed me the first time. I was somewhere in the 40's when it happened. His location is fixed but he'll only spawn after a certain level. His weapon is level scaled too between minigun/gatlaser/random legendary. e: Ho ho ho! Just got the Kiloton rifle on a character with demo expert and nuclear physicist  That gun is insane.
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King Doom posted:Anyone ever been exploring far harbor and been oneshot by a gulper that mysteriously seemed to just teleport up behind them? Not only that, they tend to be blocked some by the tree, so they don't always popup on VATS/aren't visible on sensor-equipped helmets. Nice thing is, if you get a good sneaky first shot in, you can usually drop their health down a lot, if not murder 'em outright. (Disclaimer: level 100+ character experience.)
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Lima posted:His location is fixed but he'll only spawn after a certain level. His weapon is level scaled too between minigun/gatlaser/random legendary. Just got a plasma infused radium rifle
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Any suggestions for a high-rise building interior (it can be in the overworld cell, just "inside"), where enemies don't spawn, that is centrally located in Boston? I want to establish a central safe house in Boston, and I really like the feel of the Ticonderoga safe house except for that it's already occupied and it's not very central. HalluciGen almost fits the bill except that the easily accessible bits are on the ground floor (no elevator).
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Seashell Salesman posted:Any suggestions for a high-rise building interior (it can be in the overworld cell, just "inside"), where enemies don't spawn, that is centrally located in Boston? I want to establish a central safe house in Boston, and I really like the feel of the Ticonderoga safe house except for that it's already occupied and it's not very central. HalluciGen almost fits the bill except that the easily accessible bits are on the ground floor (no elevator). Boston Bugle, maybe?
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Will a supply line get in there, like the mechanists lair? I'm assuming this is re: conquest
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hup posted:Will a supply line get in there, like the mechanists lair? I'm assuming this is re: conquest I don't know if supply lines work for interior settlements. Building in interiors with Conquest seems kind of broken and last I read on the mod page the owner hasn't tested interiors very much.
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