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Volume posted:We really need to classify liberals as a terrorist group otherwise this is going to keep happening. kill all liberals, you say? finally something i can get behind
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TheIllestVillain posted:[quote] best friends in holocaust denial
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Jul 23, 2016 07:51
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Like just this week when he devoted himself to fight against regulation on big banks. Truly a champion of the people.
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Jul 23, 2016 07:51
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TheIllestVillain posted:islamist nazis, together at last i wouldn't put it past a savvier terrorist to yell misleading things to increase the political damage could go either way, a right wing nazi growing out his beard a bit and yelling "allahu ackbar", or an islamist getting a ward cleaver cut and yelling "white power" or maybe he considers germany an islamic state. or maybe he is one of those ex-iranians with real deep beefs against muslims whatever the truth is we will never find out 100%. no truth could be as safe as the one the german government will manufacture
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Jul 23, 2016 07:52
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attempted ISIS false flag to discredit conservatives no doubt
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Jul 23, 2016 07:53
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Niwrad posted:Like just this week when he devoted himself to fight against regulation on big banks. Truly a champion of the people. he fought really hard to keep hundreds of thousands of dollars of
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Jul 23, 2016 07:54
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Niwrad posted:Like just this week when he devoted himself to fight against regulation on big banks. Truly a champion of the people. with the leaks and this retard VP choice it's not a matter of did hillary permanently lose several million bernie supporters regardless of what bernie encourages now, it's just a matter of can jill stein get on TV like twice to show her face to america or will all of those millions of angry people be split between sitting home and not voting or going to the polls to write in bernie anyway edit also regarding mass shootings, the press is really hoping a massive one happens tomorrow and every day for a week so the people won't ask them about the dnc leaks
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Jul 23, 2016 07:55
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Jul 23, 2016 07:55
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jill stein is a good candidate but i'm not voting for the green party. they defend using universal healthcare for homeopathic medicine, they once ran lunatic and 9/11 truther Cynthia McKinney in 2008, and they don't give a poo poo about local-level politics where parties are made socialist alternative has a bigger local footprint than the green party and they're trotskyists ffs (also they should run their own candidate because i'd vote for them in a loving heartbeat)
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Jul 23, 2016 08:27
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Y-Hat posted:9/11 truther Cynthia McKinney in 2008, The woman who praised Gaddafi, claims to this day that the US Government is purposely infecting the black community with autism, thinks the Boston Bombing was a false flag, and is a Sandy Hook truther. Sorry but you have to actually close down your party after that. Come up with a new one because it's forever tainted.
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Jul 23, 2016 08:42
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reallivedinosaur posted:i wouldn't put it past a savvier terrorist to yell misleading things to increase the political damage It's quite possible that he wasn't savvy at all and that this guy was just a disturbed 18 year old with an ideology that is as confusing as it is inconsistent. Something about this smells like more 'traditional' mass shooting to me rather than a terrorist attack though it will never be called anything else.
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Jul 23, 2016 08:43
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Randarkman posted:It's quite possible that he wasn't savvy at all and that this guy was just a disturbed 18 year old with an ideology that is as confusing as it is inconsistent. if it was america i'd agree but you just dont get fully automatic weapons in munich, do you? wouldnt that take some planning?
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Jul 23, 2016 08:49
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reallivedinosaur posted:if it was america i'd agree but you just dont get fully automatic weapons in munich, do you? wouldnt that take some planning? The dude didn't have fully automatic weapons.
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Jul 23, 2016 08:51
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Randarkman posted:It's quite possible that he wasn't savvy at all and that this guy was just a disturbed 18 year old with an ideology that is as confusing as it is inconsistent.
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Jul 23, 2016 08:52
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reallivedinosaur posted:if it was america i'd agree but you just dont get fully automatic weapons in munich, do you? wouldnt that take some planning? They'll eventually arrest a little group of accomplices and they'll probably be muslims.
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Jul 23, 2016 08:55
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Randarkman posted:The dude didn't have fully automatic weapons. so many dumb reports flying around, i thought i saw one the police said he did but another one said he had an "AK-15 assault gun" the internet is getting worse at breaking news
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Jul 23, 2016 08:59
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unpacked robinhood posted:They'll eventually arrest a little group of accomplices and they'll probably be muslims. Accomplices of some guy who went around shooting people with a hunting pistol of some kind while arguing with peopld that he was German? I don't think so.
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Jul 23, 2016 09:01
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what happened to 3 dudes with long guns/rifles when did it become one guy with a pistol? killing 10 people in two locations? anyways so long as the german government says its cool  this guy was another lone wolf when the story broke actually this guy wasnt a guy at all it was just a truck
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Jul 23, 2016 09:05
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the term "lone wolf" originated in white nationalist circles and now it's being used almost exclusively as a term regarding muslim terrorists with no affiliaton. they're pissing off two people for the price of one
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Jul 23, 2016 09:08
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reallivedinosaur posted:what happened to 3 dudes with long guns/rifles Well, at the rate this is going its going to go back to 3 guys sharing a single gun between them or two different terrorist attacks coincidentally going down at the same place at the same time.
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Jul 23, 2016 09:09
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Randarkman posted:Well, at the rate this is going its going to go back to 3 guys sharing a single gun between them reallivedinosaur posted:"AK-15 assault gun" the math almost checks out
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Jul 23, 2016 09:11
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Murphy Brownback posted:When are people going to stop doing that thing where they latch onto any rumor suggesting the shooter is a white supremacist/anti-immigrant mentally ill person and spreading it as fact while calling you a bigot for doubting it? Why do they just double down and call you an ultra-bigot for saying "told you" when they end up being wrong for the hundredth time in a row? Did you miss the video that strongly suggests he's unhinged? Also, spouting anti-turks thing? And claiming he's a German? Not that it would matter one bit to the people who lost their lives. Some of us are really trying to look at this thing objectively and working with whatever is confirmed, not what either side would prefer it to be.
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Jul 23, 2016 09:19
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Y-Hat posted:the term "lone wolf" originated in white nationalist circles and now it's being used almost exclusively as a term regarding muslim terrorists with no affiliaton. they're pissing off two people for the price of one they called that dude who killed Jo Cox in the UK a lone wolf and he was a straight up nazi so they get it right sometimes
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Jul 23, 2016 09:19
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Mr Underhill posted:Did you miss the video that strongly suggests he's unhinged? Also, spouting anti-turks thing? And claiming he's a German? Not that it would matter one bit to the people who lost their lives. Some of us are really trying to look at this thing objectively and working with whatever is confirmed, not what either side would prefer it to be. the guy yelling anti turk stuff in the video wasnt the shooter, according to other transcripts of it
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Jul 23, 2016 09:28
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reallivedinosaur posted:the guy yelling anti turk stuff in the video wasnt the shooter, according to other transcripts of it Yeah, that's what I thought/think. "Ich bin Deutscher" makes sense in the context of people yelling anti-Turk/anti-foreigner stuff at the shooter. German-Iranian and all.
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Jul 23, 2016 09:32
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theres way too many versions of the story to know what was getting yelled chances are it has nothing at all to do with islam these thigns usually look like islam but turn out to be something else like in miami, turned out the guy was gay, and in nice, turned out the guy was a truck
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Jul 23, 2016 09:38
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reallivedinosaur posted:theres way too many versions of the story to know what was getting yelled The nice guy was gay too and hosed a 72 yo man
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Jul 23, 2016 09:41
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According to german news sources, he lived with his parents and his name was "David S.". They apparently took the father in for questioning. Also they say he was a Shiite. They're starting to treat this as a spree killing and contrary to the other guy in france, I'm inclined to agree here. He also apparently mostly targeted young people.
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Jul 23, 2016 09:42
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Mr Underhill posted:Did you miss the video that strongly suggests he's unhinged? Also, spouting anti-turks thing? And claiming he's a German? Not that it would matter one bit to the people who lost their lives. Some of us are really trying to look at this thing objectively and working with whatever is confirmed, not what either side would prefer it to be. My point was it's silly to call people bigots for assuming attackers are motivated by radical Islam when they are responsible for the vast majority of recent terrorism attacks. Also I strongly doubt you'd be being so "objective" if the current unconfirmed story was that it was a white christian extremist.
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Jul 23, 2016 09:44
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reallivedinosaur posted:the guy yelling anti turk stuff in the video wasnt the shooter, according to other transcripts of it I'm no voice recognition expert but listening to it several times on headphones I believe there are only two people shouting at each other, the loud one being the balcony dude and the other one, with a younger timbre, the shooter. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isthQ8dAJms Small consolation, but at least he didn't go out without some cussing from the righteous balcony dude.
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Jul 23, 2016 09:47
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Murphy Brownback posted:My point was it's silly to call people bigots for assuming attackers are motivated by radical Islam when they are responsible for the vast majority of recent terrorism attacks. Why would it have to be explicitly Christian extremism? The proper Western analogue to Islamism/political Islam isn't Christianity but nationalism (in terms of politics relying on identity and vulnerable to extreme expressions)
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Jul 23, 2016 09:49
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Saint Isaias Boner posted:they called that dude who killed Jo Cox in the UK a lone wolf and he was a straight up nazi so they get it right sometimes He was also batshit mental, so even if this kid turns out to be batshit mental it won't stop people using it for whatever narrative suits them.
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Jul 23, 2016 09:49
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Murphy Brownback posted:My point was it's silly to call people bigots for assuming attackers are motivated by radical Islam when they are responsible for the vast majority of recent terrorism attacks. I stand to gain absolutely nothing, I just think making your mind up before you know any kinds of facts is dumb.
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Jul 23, 2016 09:49
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The older dude is calling him several slurs and he defends himself with indignation with the statement that he's german and born in germany. He really comes mostly off as a bit unhinged.
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Jul 23, 2016 09:50
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Y-Hat posted:the term "lone wolf" originated in white nationalist circles and now it's being used almost exclusively as a term regarding muslim terrorists with no affiliaton. they're pissing off two people for the price of one
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Jul 23, 2016 09:53
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People in this thread ramblings about the regrassive laft or whatever have finally become worse than the tumblerists. The triggeree have become the triggerred. Alahua Akbar.
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Jul 23, 2016 09:59
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Police Automaton posted:The older dude is calling him several slurs and he defends himself with indignation with the statement that he's german and born in germany. He really comes mostly off as a bit unhinged. Yeah, the shooter almost sounded apolegetic, as if he just realised what he did. It seemed like the shooter could've been reasoned with here, or at least overwhelmed. Balcony dude caught him off guard and proceeded to deescalate in the best manner (by calling him a wanker). I like to think balcony dude drove that fucker to finally off himself.
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Jul 23, 2016 10:03
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give balcony man the Iron Cross
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Jul 23, 2016 10:29
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send balcony man to the ME
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Police Automaton posted:He really comes mostly off as a bit unhinged. hm, jury's still out, perhaps these are the actions of a rational mind
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