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Jul 24, 2016 00:45
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Well, I liked it how in Beyond, they didn't beat the bad guys by shooting lasers at them. They killed them with music. It was like, the most Macross thing ever. Beyond was good. ...gently caress, CBS really wants to kill Star Trek it seems.
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Jul 24, 2016 00:52
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The video got taken down. Is this actually what it showed? I kind of like it. It's weird and different.
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Jul 24, 2016 00:54
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Here's to the 1031-A! Just saying, blowing up your hero ship and replacing it with a new model would be a pretty cool first season cliffhanger.
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Jul 24, 2016 00:56
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I actually like the new ship a lot more than most of the ships that ship nerds post as examples of the best ships. Ships.
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Jul 24, 2016 00:56
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Subyng posted:The video got taken down. Is this actually what it showed? I kind of like it. It's weird and different. I found a mirror of it! I had to beam it over using trans-dimensional technology.
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Jul 24, 2016 00:57
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Except everyone would be cheering when that piece of crap gets wrecked.
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Jul 24, 2016 00:57
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I'm hoping they've taken it down due to an overwhelmingly negative response
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Jul 24, 2016 00:57
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thexerox123 posted:I found a mirror of it! It looks like they rendered it in Star Trek Online.
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Jul 24, 2016 00:58
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Kazinsal posted:It looks like they rendered it in Star Trek Online. ...Surely you don't think... I could see it, sadly.
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Jul 24, 2016 01:03
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Gammatron 64 posted:Well, I liked it how in Beyond, they didn't beat the bad guys by shooting lasers at them. They killed them with music. It was like, the most Macross thing ever. Yesssss I was like "OMG they're doing the Lynn Minmei thing! I am so loving happy right now!"
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Jul 24, 2016 01:04
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Subyng posted:The video got taken down. Is this actually what it showed? I kind of like it. It's weird and different. Yeah, I don't get the hate. It's definitely some Fed-Klingon hybrid, with the D7-like fuselage and nacelles and angular aesthetic (as well as all the audio cues going on in the theme). If it's Prime, I'm guessing that it's some sort of period between Undiscovered Country/Generations and TNG, where there could have been a Federation-Klingon alliance that eventually got broken by the time TNG came around. It would fit nicely with the analogy that Star Trek presented of Klingons as the Russians. Young Freud fucked around with this message at 01:09 on Jul 24, 2016 |
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Jul 24, 2016 01:06
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...I'll maybe be less annoyed with it if they reveal it's a joint Klingon-Federation ship on some secret mission. Doubly so if we get comedy bridge where one half is totally Bird of Prey, and the other half is proto-Galaxy hotel-lobby-in-space.
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Jul 24, 2016 01:23
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There's no way this show isn't going to suck.
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Jul 24, 2016 01:24
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A Federation ship with a poorly lit bridge that's made out of rusted metal alloys, surrounded by a vaguely smokey haze. These are the adventures of the USS Tetanus.
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Jul 24, 2016 01:25
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Tighclops posted:Yeah I mean it's nice to go back to old concept art for inspiration but sometimes that poo poo was rejected for a reason, yo If it is pre-TOS I'd much rather have a Daedalus instead.  we're the spacebaaaaaaaalls
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Jul 24, 2016 01:28
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Kazinsal posted:It looks like they rendered it in Star Trek Online. Not enough rubberbanding as it leaves spacedock.
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Jul 24, 2016 01:29
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Everything I've seen about the show has me optimistic about the writing and the characters. Ugh that ship is ugly though. I guess I could get used to it.
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Jul 24, 2016 01:40
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I'd be more interested if it didn't have Alex loving Kurtzman as a writer and producer.
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Jul 24, 2016 01:43
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I seriously thought that was a fan render when I first saw it. I had no clue it had anything to do with the new series until the end of the teaser. That was awful.
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Jul 24, 2016 01:50
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Timby posted:I'd be more interested if it didn't have Alex loving Kurtzman as a writer and producer. He co-created Fringe, too, and that show was great.
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Jul 24, 2016 01:57
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BuckarooBanzai posted:There's no way this show isn't going to suck. After Hannibal I'm pretty sure Bryan Fuller can do anything.
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Jul 24, 2016 01:57
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thexerox123 posted:He co-created Fringe, too, and that show was great. Counter-point: He co-wrote loving Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen.
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Jul 24, 2016 02:01
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Timby posted:Counter-point: He co-wrote loving Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen. But we're talking about a TV show that he is producer and co-creator for, not a movie that he wrote.
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Jul 24, 2016 02:05
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This show may turn out to be poo poo, in fact it's a pretty good bet that it will, but it's not going to be because the ship is ugly and the effects are cheap. It's loving Star Trek we're talking about here. "This doesn't look like real alien at all and further more a dude clearly made that poo poo out of styrofoam in his garage, 0/10 episode" --Nobody, 2016
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Jul 24, 2016 02:08
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The starship's aesthetic sucks, it's not just the quality of the CGI, although if it comes out looking like Reboot in 2016, yeah, that's gonna count against it.
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Jul 24, 2016 02:11
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Tighclops posted:I'm hoping they've taken it down due to an overwhelmingly negative response It should be taken down AS garbage.
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Jul 24, 2016 02:18
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Meh, I rather like the Discovery. Getting a TOS movie vibe from it.
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Jul 24, 2016 02:30
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thexerox123 posted:I found a mirror of it! So there's definitely a decloaking sound at the very end of the teaser. What if the registry is a red herring? What if this actually is set in the future of the TNG timeline? Klingons join the Federation, there's a big technology share, Starfleet restarts the registry numbering, and that's why Discovery looks like an unholy mashup of the two design languages.
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Jul 24, 2016 02:38
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There's also thisquote:Fuller answered the question of whether the Discovery, just revealed, was based on Ralph McQuarrie’s ‘70s designs for the Enterprise. Fuller said it was, but “to a point that we can’t legally comment on it until [our legal team] figures out some things.” I'm assuming this would be because McQuarrie created that concept for a film, making it the property of Paramount and not CBS? Maybe Paramount's legal team will save us from that design.
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Jul 24, 2016 02:41
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Tighclops posted:I'm hoping they've taken it down due to an overwhelmingly negative response The link still works for me? 
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Jul 24, 2016 02:45
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Big Mean Jerk posted:So there's definitely a decloaking sound at the very end of the teaser. That's my theory. I think it's even a very reasonable theory. It would be a very natural evolution of the universe; from various time travel episodes we know that the Federation includes all the Alpha Quadrant races in a few centuries don't we?
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Jul 24, 2016 02:45
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Big Mean Jerk posted:So there's definitely a decloaking sound at the very end of the teaser. What if the guys who slapped the video together just threw the sound effect in there to go with the text "because it's a star trek sound, the fans will eat it up"?
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Jul 24, 2016 02:49
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:What if the guys who slapped the video together just threw the sound effect in there to go with the text "because it's a star trek sound, the fans will eat it up"? I'm just trying to justify the worst tv ship design in the history of the franchise  I never thought we'd see something uglier than the Oberth, but here we are
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Jul 24, 2016 02:51
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Big Mean Jerk posted:What if this actually is set in the future of the TNG timeline? Klingons join the Federation, there's a big technology share, Starfleet restarts the registry numbering, and that's why Discovery looks like an unholy mashup of the two design languages. That looks like a 80s Fender Flying V made out of a pizza box. So I could buy it as a post TUC/pre-TNG prototype... but then the registry would have to be an NX, right?
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Jul 24, 2016 02:57
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The Oberth is an adorable little ship that reminds me of boats. It's a cute little spaceboat. oh hi there I'm an Oberth class ship here to scan some anomalies, what's this cube shaped- OH GOD OH GHODODA WHAT ITS EATING MEEEE AOGHghg
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Jul 24, 2016 02:59
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My guess: the Discovery is a Federation-Klingon joint venture, and much of the show will focus on how two fundamentally different cultures and ideologies can cooperate and understand one another. Essentially, an allegory for Western liberal democracy vs Middle Eastern islamism, in the tradition of TOS's cold war allegories, TNG's environmental and social issues allegories, and ENT's terrorism allegory. For era, post Undiscovered Country, pre-TNG makes the most sense canonically. Although the registry number points towards pre-TOS, which could work, but then we'd know whatever understanding's reached would only be temporary. If it's post-Voyager, I don't see the allegory working. By then, the Federation and Klingons have had strong relations for a long time.
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Jul 24, 2016 03:00
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As a positive, the name of the show and the ship is pretty good. I like it for the ship more than the series, but it works and IS recognisably a Federation-y name.
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Jul 24, 2016 03:08
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Duncan Doenitz posted:Forgive me if this has been asked before, but given how heavily Beyond references elements of ENT, is there a mostly agreed upon list of episodes worth watching? I've been binging on Netflix and it's kind of a slog, and that theme song Basically, just skip to the last season. Drone posted:"Giant green space hand" Kesper North posted:I was going to hate that so much, and then the setup was perfect and the payoff was glorious, and it felt totally earned. WickedHate posted:That ship is heavily reminiscent of a Klingon Bird of Prey from the original series. Or maybe a Warbird. One of the two. I can't help but see the back half of a K'tinga with a saucer attached to it.  Pakled posted:The docking clamps in particular look like really poor early 2000's low-budget CGI. ENT had better CGI than this. I was totally thinking "it looks like the Beast Wars cartoon".  Tunicate posted:Sector General TV show, got it. I could see Star Trek: Sector General as a CW show stocked with a generically attractive inoffensively multiracial cast
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Jul 24, 2016 03:25
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My current theory/hope is that "Discovery" is a legacy name like Enterprise, and we're going to get teasers of the previous ships in awful CG before finally unveiling the USS Discovery-CDEF...etc. It really can't be this, right?
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Jul 24, 2016 04:34
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