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It's going to be hilarious if the Russian Hax turn out to be another Watergate moment. I mean, I doubt they will, but it'd be great.
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Just boo the sell out bitch. Who cares what party she's in? (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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gohmak posted:It's almost as if Bernie supporters cared more about his positions than the man himself. Which is why so many of them I know are now Feelin' the Johnson.
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I am mexican and this is the first time i vote in a presidential cycle. 1st out of 4 thats the kinda scary that trump is. I was never afraid of run of the mill republicans but they put up a white nationalists is scary as gently caress.
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Jul 25, 2016 14:14
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This election is so loving stupid on every level.
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Jul 25, 2016 14:14
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ErIog posted:Open a loving blog or something. She's gaveling the convention open and closed every day because she's still acting chair during the convention. No she's not. Perm chair gavels it open and closed.
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Footage from DWS's gaveling in: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZwzsCr8rgU
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emdash posted:I thought they did take away her speaking slot(s) Yeah, correct me if I'm wrong but the narrative I seemed to get from Politico last night was that she'd initially agreed to step down post-convention and the party later pressed her to leave on Sunday. http://www.politico.com/story/2016/07/debbie-wasserman-schultz-dnc-226100
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Live feed of DWS at DNC e: oh loving comeON
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She's not gonna get booed because she's not gonna say anything, and Bernie delegates, thankfully, are not the same as the Bernie supporters protesting outside. This entire freakout over her existence being acknowledged for a few seconds every day is ludicrous. Trump had a train wreck of a convention. This is not that. This does even rise to the level of Scott Baio getting into it with MSNBC people. Nobody is going to care about this after Bernie speaks tomorrow. BI NOW GAY LATER posted:No she's not. Perm chair gavels it open and closed. I'm sure that's what the rules say, but otherwise she wouldn't be on stage due to her speaking slot having been removed. So literally the only thing that she could do on stage at this point that might be booed is gaveling. If she wasn't even doing that then why does that tweet exist and why are so many in this thread losing their loving minds?
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Jul 25, 2016 14:15
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Dear people arzying and/or unskewing polls Show me the map
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cargo cult posted:I'm arzying too and this is purely anecdotal but personally speaking as a PoC, I think PoCs will turnout in higher numbers than they did for Obama in '12, the stakes couldn't possibly be higher. I can't speak to Milennials who are just turning 18 having grown up during neoliberal decline contrasted with corporate-approved 'social progress', all personified by a black POTUS, but I also think it's objectively true that just as many minorities are turning 18, if not more. I hate framing things in such racial terms but my point here is it's pretty much impossible as a PoC to see what's happening and not be in a low-key state of fight-or-flight, let alone not show up to vote. What flavor of PoC one happens to be is irrelevant when the dogwhistling is so blatant that people are actively signaling out (((Jews))) for targeted harassment on twitter. Anecdotes aside. http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/03/03/us/politics/hillary-clinton-voter-turnout.html quote:Democratic turnout has fallen drastically since 2008, the last time the party had a contested primary, with roughly three million fewer Democrats voting in the 15 states that have held caucuses or primaries through Tuesday, according to unofficial election results tallied through Wednesday afternoon.
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So what I'm getting from the recent polling is that we're literally getting a "Dewey beats Truman" moment in November.
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Otteration posted:I scanned here for links, so sorry if already posted and I missed it, but does anybody have a link with info on JWS's new "job with Hillary"? Yeah this is all over the place with the bernie bros. They're lucky this happened before the convention, assuming they're able to get Sanders to chill them out.
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DWS is apparently Hillary's honorary campaign chairman which is an even more of a nothing job than VP, but we've already seen that this kind of nuance is lost on people. It's terrible optics and baffling to me, to be sure. ErIog posted:She's not gonna get booed because she's not gonna say anything, and Bernie delegates, thankfully, are not the same as the Bernie supporters protesting outside. Just the other day someone was talking about their friends who are Bernie delegates and who genuinely believed they can somehow make Bernie the nominee this week. I mean they could have been trolling I guess.
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teen witch posted:Same here. I'm disgustingly left
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and I'm seeing a lot of other people of color wig out rightfully so about the proposition of seeing all the racist poo poo they've faced day to day emboldened on such a big level. It's loving scary. There really is no safe clean cut option, either more of the same neoliberalism or a loving crypto-fascist. I've seen more white far left piss and scream about "WELL I'M JUST GONNA VOTE STEIN" or "It's wrong to vote because two party" and not realize the weight of what they might not go through.
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Jul 25, 2016 14:19
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Will Israel is really lovely, dumb millennials could be equating and conflating Bibi and Judaism
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greatn posted:Will Israel is really lovely, dumb millennials could be equating and conflating Bibi and Judaism If they are, it might be thanks to Israel working really hard to equate Israel with Judaism.
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The only map that matters: http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/
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ErIog posted:I'm sure that's what the rules say, but otherwise she wouldn't be on stage due to her speaking slot having been removed. So literally the only thing that she could do on stage at this point that might be booed is gaveling. If she wasn't even doing that then why does that tweet exist and why are so many in this thread losing their loving minds? Because people ITT often lose their minds over dumb poo poo. It's like the raison d'etre for USPOL.
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Litany Unheard posted:Here's the only Trump victory scenario I could see as being even remotely possible: http://www.270towin.com/maps/eeXzy Exactly. If Trump is somehow leading Virginia and/or Colorado during the debates, then I'll start panicking.
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gohmak posted:Anecdotes aside.
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Noam Chomsky posted:The only map that matters: http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/ He's not going to win Florida.
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Don't worry guys, she'll be ok. I'm sure she'll find a good cause to be a spokesman for.
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Zanzibar Ham posted:If they are, it might be thanks to Israel working really hard to equate Israel with Judaism. Most of my formal education (k-12) regarding Israel is "That's where Jews can also live. Palestinians? Never heard of 'em!" Plus I still get birthright ads. I'm not even Jewish.
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Antti posted:DWS is apparently Hillary's honorary campaign chairman which is an even more of a nothing job than VP, but we've already seen that this kind of nuance is lost on people. It's terrible optics and baffling to me, to be sure. No she's not. She's her Honorary 50-State Strategy Chairperson, which is an absolutely made up title to let DWS save face. Chokes McGee posted:Exactly. Why wait? It's always a good time to plan for the possibility that society is about to collapse. I recommend hording gold to pay off the Paulite Militias for protection.
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Jul 25, 2016 14:24
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People freak out over dumb poo poo because there's really not enough news to fill out every day. Like literally people here are falling into the same dumb horserace narrative that the media falls into. The fact that they say "oh the horserace narrative is dumb" doesn't make them less dumb.
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Jill Stein doesn’t mind helping Donald Trump beat Hillary Clinton I'm skeptical of the skewing of this but would be unsurprised if this wasn't true. Read the article but didn't watch the video. Speaking of which, can anyone point me into the direction of Nader's role in the 2000 election and that whole "he may have hosed us over" thing?
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Also as even Nate himself said, their model is exceptional sensitive to polling changes, of which we just got a raft of post convention bump polling for Trump. If, after next week, he's still leading we can feel free to Arzy and engage in a full on civil war over how we totally should have selected a dude who vacationed in Cuba and praised Castro.
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So, will Sanders give a strong endorsement and call for unity today, or will he go insane again from that sweet sweet berniebro body odor?
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sean10mm posted:Single polls are worthless, you have to look at aggregates. That should be every thread title until the election.
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I hope Bernie calls for unity and defeating Trump above all else but on the other hand watching him skewer the DNC and watching both parties shatter into a million pieces and the quick firery nuclear death of a Trump presidency would be a thing too I guess
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Kilroy posted:He's winning in the aggregated polls now as well. Between convention polling is nearly useless. Anyone who was being honest would tell you that a small lead for Trump after the convention, even as awful as his convention was, would tell you that. Calm down.
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Goatman Sacks posted:So, will Sanders give a strong endorsement and call for unity today, or will he go insane again from that sweet sweet berniebro body odor? Given his interview yesterday, I expect he will call for unity in the face of Trump.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Maybe go on a news website or something? Sorry I get all my news from something awful dot com but in the least effort way possible.
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Goatman Sacks posted:So, will Sanders give a strong endorsement and call for unity today, or will he go insane again from that sweet sweet berniebro body odor? I think that's less a function of the body odor and more the fumes from axe body spray.
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:Given his interview yesterday, I expect he will call for unity in the face of Trump. Calling for unity would be the wrong move. He should instead go full throated endorsement and talk about how awesome Hillary is and how she awesomely agreed to adopt the parts of the platform he cared the most about, how much he admires and respects get and how great she'll be. Calling for unity sounds like "I know she's bad, too guys, but we have no choice"
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Chokes McGee posted:Dear people arzying and/or unskewing polls I'm not arzying or unskewing polls. But it's not as if "Trump takes the rust belt with their disproportinal number of low-educated whiteys" isn't a thing. It's the only plausible path he has. http://www.270towin.com/maps/b1yz6 (yes, this relies on Florida as well.) e: beatn. FairGame fucked around with this message at 14:42 on Jul 25, 2016 |
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