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Kilroy posted:What I'm wondering is if around 2030 we're going to do like Germany did post WW2, or if we're going to go full Reign Of Terror on motherfuckers like yourself. Why you gotta come to the RNC thread if you just gonna get mad?
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oswald ownenstein posted:Why you gotta come to the RNC thread if you just gonna get mad? Well the RNC pointed a gun at the country's head and is currently daring us to pull the trigger you pussies, end it all so yeah think it's fair to get mad.
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Jul 25, 2016 15:22
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oswald ownenstein posted:None of these things are going to happen Not sure why you are supporting Trump if you are so pessimistic about him accomplishing the stuff Republicans campaign on. At least have some faith in his ability to enact the platform.
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Radish posted:Not sure why you are supporting Trump if you are so pessimistic about him accomplishing the stuff Republicans campaign on. At least have some faith in his ability. And I mean Trump did say all foreign and domestic policy will be delegated to Pence who is 100% in favor of all that bad poo poo.
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Feinne posted:Well the RNC pointed a gun at the country's head and is currently daring us to pull the trigger you pussies, end it all so yeah think it's fair to get mad. It's weird that you think it's okay to think/say this, but you mocked people on the right who preached doom and gloom about Obama I know you're young but there's a political pendulum that tends to swing back and forth and it's always been that way. This time it goes against your team. It sucks but you had 8 years of Obama. Everything is gonna be OK. Unless you're an illegal immigrant or some kind of welfare parasite and then I might worry a little about that. Radish posted:Not sure why you are supporting Trump if you are so pessimistic about him accomplishing the stuff Republicans campaign on. At least have some faith in his ability to enact the platform. Trump is a realist and so am I. Pretty sure he doesn't campaign on abortion law or gay rights. Trump is very different from the Republicans we've had for a while now - which is part of why he's so exciting if you are a Republican who doesn't like the social issue albatross
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oswald ownenstein posted:But Trump isn't even remotely anti-gay. Trump is bringing the Republicans out of the dark ages on gay stuff which is the biggest blessing out of his inevitable win. Trump may not be anti-gay (I don't believe this, but it doesn't matter) but his party undeniably is, and you have your head in the sand if you think Trump wouldn't go along with any anti-LGBT bills that pass across his desk with a smile on his face. quote:Also nobody is going to make abortion totally illegal and only fools pandering to a very specific vote even claim they will do that. If nothing else abortion is responsible for the drop in crime and helps keep less mouths dependent on welfare. Are you not aware of the efforts in many states to abolish abortion by making regulations so restrictive it's all but impossible to get one? In some states the number of abortion clinics in the entire state is in the single to low double digits. And this will continue under a Trump presidency and will happen at the federal level as well, especially if he gets to fill the bench of the Supreme Courts. Trump cares about Trump, and he'll gladly throw LGBT and women's rights under the bus in a heartbeat.
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oswald ownenstein posted:Trump is a realist and so am I. Pretty sure he doesn't campaign on abortion law or gay rights. Trump has no convictions one way or another beyond FYGM. All it takes is one favored courtier suggesting he outlaw gay rights and he'll do it without a second thought.
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Who What Now posted:Trump may not be anti-gay (I don't believe this, but it doesn't matter) but his party undeniably is, and you have your head in the sand if you think Trump wouldn't go along with any anti-LGBT bills that pass across his desk with a smile on his face. There is no evidence of Trump being anti-gay but there is evidence of him being pro-gay. The guy stood up at the RNC and talked about protecting LGBTQ. You're free to believe whatever you want to believe
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oswald ownenstein posted:There is no evidence of Trump being anti-gay but there is evidence of him being pro-gay. Donald Trump (R)
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oswald ownenstein posted:There is no evidence of Trump being anti-gay but there is evidence of him being pro-gay. What part of "Trump's personal opinions don't matter, it's his party that is the problem" was too difficult for you? Lemme know and I'll try and dumb it down for you a bit further.
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oswald ownenstein posted:It's weird that you think it's okay to think/say this, but you mocked people on the right who preached doom and gloom about Obama I dunno dude. If he cant be trusted to stop funding the selling of parts of abortive babies or re-instituting marriage as between one man and one woman then why the gently caress should I trust him to put those swarthy illegals back in Mexico or put Jim Crow laws in place? It sounds like Trump is full of poo poo and can't get any of this stuff accomplished is what I'm hearing from you.
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Yinlock posted:If Trump wins everything is going to be hosed, so please do not support a fascist that will ruin the lives of our friends to the south and, as the flames begin to die out after the purge is complete, turn the gold-plated Eye of Trumpon towards the north, probably because someone in this country called him an idiot. The only upside as a Canadian is you might be able to buy a bunch of US dollars on the cheap after it crashes post-election. Then you pray the US survives long enough for it to get back to normal and doesn't implode, taking Canada's economy with it. Not much of an upside. Edit: One of the things I'm wondering about Trump if he's going to pull the stunt of making a few hundred executive orders and then stepping down, saying his work is complete. Might explain the offer of letting his VP essentially run the country.
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oswald ownenstein posted:There is no evidence of Trump being anti-gay but there is evidence of him being pro-gay.  Its his party that will set the standards, regardless of Trump's supposed pro-gay stance (which is very flimsy, because he'll say/act however he wants to keep position).And since the GOP specifically added planks to its position AT THE RNC that stated they were for rolling back any progress on Gay Rights and Abortion rights, you don't have a leg to stand on.
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oswald ownenstein posted:There is no evidence of Trump being anti-gay but there is evidence of him being pro-gay. But the point is that his party, the GOP, is still as anti-gay as always and passed a platform that is as anti-LGBTQ as their platforms always are. He hasn't lead them out of the dark ages of anything.
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SedanChair posted:Donald Trump (R) Ron Paul has an R next to his name as well Bernard Sanders has a D next to his name yet is a proud socialist who started out his 'career' in a hippie commune DrProsek posted:But the point is that his party, the GOP, is still as anti-gay as always and passed a platform that is as anti-LGBTQ as their platforms always are. He hasn't lead them out of the dark ages of anything. No they won't When Trump wins this is their excuse to stop being stupid about a losing issue He will drag the GOP kicking and screaming out of the anti-gay mire they're stuck in. This is one of the best things about the Trump win oswald ownenstein fucked around with this message at 15:40 on Jul 25, 2016 |
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Who What Now posted:What part of "Trump's personal opinions don't matter, it's his party that is the problem" was too difficult for you? Lemme know and I'll try and dumb it down for you a bit further. Probably the part where you apparently were too busy to pay attention to the Republican primaries where Trump said 'this is my show' and won huge because of it. Well either that, or willfully ignorant, but you're way too smart for that right?
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Yes this is their excuse to swing pro-gay, which is why their platform is virulently anti-gay and Trump chose Mike Pence who believes in conversion therapy. Mike Pence who again Trump has confirmed will be in charge of America's foreign and domestic policy while he's busy 'making America great again' whatever the gently caress that means.
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Jul 25, 2016 15:39
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oswald ownenstein posted:Ron Paul has an R next to his name as well You're an idiot. Ron Paul is not pro-gay rights: quote:It's whispered that Paul is in league with the Dominionist and Christian Reconstructionist movements.[16] Paul introduced the We the People Act into the House of Representatives twice. This bill would strip federal courts of jurisdiction in cases involving abortion, same-sex marriage, privacy related to sexual behavior, and Establishment Clause issues, leaving them to the states... which is exactly what the Religious Right wants to do. He has engaged in outright dishonesty in support of this agenda, for instance claiming that prayer has been prohibited in schools. oswald ownenstein posted:No they won't Again, you're an idiot. Trump specifically is touting the Evangelical viewpoint as part of his agenda, which is very much anti-gay rights. He's specifically told the Evangelicals that he will appoint people who will tout their theocratic lines in the Supreme Court and any other appointments.
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oswald ownenstein posted:Ron Paul has an R next to his name as well White supremacists and Neo-Nazis aren't known for being LGBT friendly, so why would the party change in a way that will betray their most ardent supporters?
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oswald ownenstein posted:Probably the part where you apparently were too busy to pay attention to the Republican primaries where Trump said 'this is my show' and won huge because of it. Trump won huge because he said he'd get rid of blacks, Mexicans, and Muslims.
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This Trump guy sounds like he is all talk. I think white supremacists are going to be very disappointed come November when he doesn't end up having the ability to ship all the Latinos out of the country. I'm not sure I'd trust him on that kind of stuff when he can't even deliver what local state governments did before Scalia died.
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Radish posted:This Trump guy sounds like he is all talk. I think white supremacists are going to be very disappointed come November when he doesn't end up having the ability to ship all the Latinos out of the country. He'll do whatever the GOP's planks decide. I sincerely doubt that he'd get into power and then completely abandon the party that put him there while screaming about No Take Backsies. He's touting the Evangelical lines, courting White Supremacists. We have to assume, for the sake of voting, that he's serious.
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Who What Now posted:White supremacists and Neo-Nazis aren't known for being LGBT friendly, so why would the party change in a way that will betray their most ardent supporters? Black Panthers voted for Obama, is Obama now anti-white? Who What Now posted:Trump won huge because he said he'd get rid of blacks, Mexicans, and Muslims. Yeah he didn't say any of that. He said he'd get rid of illegal immigrants and stop muslims coming from 3rd world islamoterrorist sources until we got a handle on this whole ISiS flood. But you knew that CommieGIR posted:You're an idiot. Ron Paul is not pro-gay rights: Careful you don't get any spittle on yourself with all of that gnashing Ron Paul being an R but having very libertarian views is to demonstrate that the claim of having an R next to your name automatically makes you anti-gay is stupid. Anti-gay is a dumb and fading sentiment among the populace, and an albatross for the GOP. Many of them want to get out of it, they only needed the light to show them the way. Trump is that light - bask in it and he'll show you the way too.
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oswald ownenstein posted:Careful you don't get any spittle on yourself with all of that gnashing Either you can't read or you're dense as hell. Ron Paul is all about STATES RIGHTS to Outlaw Gay Rights. And he's very pro-theocracy. So, no, the R next to his name is very much well earned. oswald ownenstein posted:Anti-gay is a dumb and fading sentiment among the populace, and an albatross for the GOP. Many of them want to get out of it, they only needed the light to show them the way. I'm going to have to assume you are purposefully trolling, because otherwise this statement could only be made if you are blind, deaf, and dumb. The Baby Boomers are not dead yet. CommieGIR fucked around with this message at 15:49 on Jul 25, 2016 |
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I mean be real Trump won't do poo poo and that's sort of the point, he'll just rubber-stamp whatever poo poo garbage congress churns out and de facto a Trump victory signifies the house remaining solidly republican and the senate probably going further in that direction as well. So I won't have health insurance again because I had a kidney stone once and miscarriages will be investigated more strenuously than rapes. Or we could have the almost as disastrous Trump victory where the democrats reclaim the senate, where literally nothing gets done for 4-8 years including filling supreme court seats. Legit question Trump dude: What in practical terms do you think Trump will do in his role of "Make America Great Again"? Feinne fucked around with this message at 15:50 on Jul 25, 2016 |
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oswald ownenstein posted:Black Panthers voted for Obama, is Obama now anti-white? Black panthers weren't Obama's base. quote:Yeah he didn't say any of that. He said he'd get rid of illegal immigrants and stop muslims coming from 3rd world islamoterrorist sources until we got a handle on this whole ISiS flood. But you knew that Do you know how dogwhistles work?
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CommieGIR posted:He'll do whatever the GOP's planks decide. I sincerely doubt that he'd get into power and then completely abandon the party that put him there while screaming about No Take Backsies. Well his fan doesn't seem to have that confidence. It's kind of sad to be that invested in a guy you don't think can actually do what you want before he even has the chance to let you down. Dude is obviously roleplaying a dumbass Trump supporter (badly) but might as well have fun playing with it.
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oswald ownenstein posted:Black Panthers voted for Obama, is Obama now anti-white? You think the Black Panthers are anti-white? Everything makes sense now.
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Bast Relief posted:Didn't Trump say he would protect gays from foreign threats (and I take that to mean Muslims) or did he later add that he wanted to protect gay rights domestically and I just didn't hear that part? Well, considering the guy lies pretty much 85-90% of the time whenever he says anything, I doubt that was the nugget of truth among his lies.
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oswald ownenstein posted:There is no evidence of Trump being anti-gay but there is evidence of him being pro-gay. On the issue of gay marriage, Donald Trump said during a November 2013 interview on MSNBC, "I think I’m evolving, and I think I’m a very fair person, but I have been for traditional marriage. I am for traditional marriage, I am for a marriage between a man and a woman.” http://www.msnbc.com/thomas-roberts/thomas-roberts-donald-trump-interview In a March 2011 interview with The Des Moines Register, Trump said gay couples should not be allowed to marry or receive the same benefits as married heterosexual couples. http://blogs.desmoinesregister.com/dmr/index.php/2011/03/03/register-exclusive-trump-says-he-would-play-in-iowa-aides-to-visit-monday
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SedanChair posted:You think the Black Panthers are anti-white? Everything makes sense now. NBP members tweet about killing white people and getting rid of the white problem and even wikipedia has information about their anti-white rhetoric and guest speakers. I eagerly await whatever silly spin you try to put on this CommieGIR posted:Well, considering the guy lies pretty much 85-90% of the time whenever he says anything, I doubt that was the nugget of truth among his lies. Trump brought up LGBTQ at a loving Republican National Convention rally - got thunderous applause - and then said "I'm really proud of you for cheering that" and got even more applause And you dismiss this as 'well he lies' I think I have some insight into your state of mind now Casimir Radon posted:Oh but boy do they ever get brought up if you call Trump a racist. One guy shows up at a polling station with a bat in 2008 and that invalidates any criticism you might have of Republican policy. This is a really wordy way of sticking your fingers in your ears and going 'nuh-uh-uh' NPB and other anti-white black racists overwhelmingly voted for Obama. That doesn't make Obama a racist anymore than it makes Trump a racist if some has-been KKK supports him. This is why it gets brought up. But thanks for being a caricature of every liberal screaming racism at the top of their lungs towards anyone on the Other Team Feinne posted:
It's hard to say, because it can go either way - in terms of either he'll execute like a CEO and get poo poo done, or get stuck in the mire and accomplish nothing. But: Being the anti-Obama on a foreign policy level will help on its own - no more of this apologizing to countries nonsense. Russia already respects Trump far more than they ever respected Obama, so those relations will most likely improve as I think Trump is a masterful negotiator and won't have any problem with Putin On a domestic front, we'll definitely see some populist protectionism come into play - he's going to execute on that. We'll see our immigration laws actually get enforced, but I would expect some immigration reform so that legal immigration is streamlined. But more importantly I think we'll see a return of that 80s American pride again because Trump says what is on his mind and isn't afraid to call anyone out. I mean, this forum will still be a cesspool of self-loathing and depression, but in the outside world I think we'll see a lot of unity in the post-Trump America. oswald ownenstein fucked around with this message at 17:12 on Jul 25, 2016 |
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oswald ownenstein posted:This is a really wordy way of sticking your fingers in your ears and going 'nuh-uh-uh'
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Casimir Radon posted:I don't like the Black Panthers at all. Unlike Trump with the KKK, Obama did nothing to stir up their sentiments. They voted for him because he's black, even though his message is entirely different from theirs. Last I checked Trump is polling higher with blacks than any Republican candidate in the past 4 elections. Did he stir them up to by proposing that we follow our own border laws?
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oswald ownenstein posted:Last I checked Trump is polling higher with blacks than any Republican candidate in the past 4 elections. Did he stir them up to by proposing that we follow our own border laws? AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAH AAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHA HAHAHAHAAHAHA
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