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Berke Negri posted:this was hilariously actually debunked after the buzzfeed writer wrote it, he called the wrong trump tower cafe it turned out later yeah but it was only a special thing, not regularly on the menu even then
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Arrgytehpirate posted:He did a heroic act then went into self preservation mode. What would have been accomplished from him going to jail? actual moral heroism which is not the same as 'behaving as a rational actor'
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snowden was the personification of a rereg gimmick account
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Jul 25, 2016 17:28
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so we're pretending that trump's gonna win and that snowden wanted to wind up in russia i guess now
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V. Illych L. posted:influential people were openly calling for trying him for treason & the death penalty, it is not unreasonable of him to fear such that's bullshit
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Disinterested posted:actual moral heroism which is not the same as 'behaving as a rational actor' is moral heroism required to not be labelled a coward?
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Jagchosis posted:so we're pretending that trump's gonna win and that snowden wanted to wind up in russia i guess now i don't think he wanted to wind up in russia, no
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Translation that from Troopfolk for me? Because I want to know if my interpretation is correct.
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V. Illych L. posted:is moral heroism required to not be labelled a coward? it is if you're going to portray yourself as a moral hero
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Arrgytehpirate posted:He did a heroic act then went into self preservation mode. What would have been accomplished from him going to jail? ideological purity is super loving important on these forums
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V. Illych L. posted:is moral heroism required to not be labelled a coward? i know what conversation you're having but it's not the one i'm having and no i don't think he's a coward but i do think you can't dismiss everything he's done as all super good and ok either
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:i don't think he wanted to wind up in russia, no volk seems to think so and whatever your position is (didn't read) it's probably stupid so w/e
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paranoid randroid posted:what snowden did was probably correct but i tend to view getting exiled to putins back pocket kind of hilarious in a twilight zone kind of way yeah if you ever have watched some of his russian media appearances (usually by stream never actual physical appearance) he comes on and is like yeah, like i exposed in america the government does all these terrible things here but thanks to putin here well, we don't have to worry about anything like that
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in conclusion, snowden is a man of contrasts
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Yo this rear end in a top hat takking at facilities management day just called students customers gently caress this oval office
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Jagchosis posted:so we're pretending that trump's gonna win and that snowden wanted to wind up in russia i guess now im not pretending the first thing, friendo. im knowing.
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Jagchosis posted:volk seems to think so and whatever your position is (didn't read) it's probably stupid so w/e my position is he did an okay thing, then undermined it by running away and inadvertently becoming a stooge; coward was probably the wrong word. he is a self-important rear end though.
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Jul 25, 2016 17:31
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Volkerball posted:it is if you're going to portray yourself as a moral hero this is incoherent
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paranoid randroid posted:im not pretending the first thing, friendo. im knowing. youre just pissy because you live in la
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Randler posted:Translation that from Troopfolk for me? It means it's not his fault that he's a cherry forever and I feel bad for him and he probably felt like poo poo about it for a long time.
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Jagchosis posted:volk seems to think so and whatever your position is (didn't read) it's probably stupid so w/e where else was he gonna end up once he decided he would try to flee? you don't exactly get to move to london.
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what im getting at is that the real cyberpunk conclusion to this would be that snowden has been dead for years and what we see is just the ghost in a machine that FSB compiled of him to use after they deep brain scanned him and killed him
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Arrgytehpirate posted:Yo this rear end in a top hat takking at facilities management day just called students customers gently caress this oval office they are
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Berke Negri posted:what im getting at is that the real cyberpunk conclusion to this would be that snowden has been dead for years and what we see is just the ghost in a machine that FSB compiled of him to use after they deep brain scanned him and killed him you played too much new vegas
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Jul 25, 2016 17:31
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:that's bullshit in any event, it's not terribly material to my point
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V. Illych L. posted:in any event, it's not terribly material to my point it seems pretty central to it
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Jul 25, 2016 17:32
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:my position is he did an okay thing, then undermined it by running away and inadvertently becoming a stooge; coward was probably the wrong word. i think that it is pretty understandable to not want to rot in supermax for 30 - life and still have no one care
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Jul 25, 2016 17:32
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Close to buying legion But I have no time to play it Fahhhh
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:they are Everything wrong with American higher ed in one terrible, boring and monotone speech that's probably meant to motivate us. I don't know who the gently caress this rear end in a top hat is but I'm gonna find out.
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Jul 25, 2016 17:33
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:you played too much new vegas i really did.
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Volkerball posted:where else was he gonna end up once he decided he would try to flee? you don't exactly get to move to london. he was going to ecuador when state dept revoked his passport stranding him in russia numbnuts or el salvador. one of them spanish e states
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Arrgytehpirate posted:It means it's not his fault that he's a cherry forever and I feel bad for him and he probably felt like poo poo about it for a long time. Cherry means what?
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Jagchosis posted:i think that it is pretty understandable to not want to rot in supermax for 30 - life and still have no one care you watch anime, so i wouldn't expect you to understand the concepts of dignity and honor
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:it seems pretty central to it why? the fear of death is, again, a matter of degree of punishment, not really a matter of kind why should "being executed" legitimise a different kind of action than, say, "being locked in a dark hole for the rest of your life"
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Randler posted:Cherry means what? No deployment/no kills depending on who you ask
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Randler posted:Cherry means what? never deployed.
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Jagchosis posted:i think that it is pretty understandable to not want to rot in supermax for 30 - life and still have no one care he wouldn't have gone to supermax, and by running away threw out any possible chance for the administration to show him any leniency.
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Here is a link to the entire email chain with 'taco bowl engagement' - it's clearly about the pandering and subject ends up being dropped with "ehhh we already did the video with him calling Mexicans rapists, let's leave it at that" lol.
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euphronius posted:Close to buying legion Gain a legion.
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haha "honor" what the hell
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