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FlamingLiberal posted:Yes, which is odd why they would bring Chris Hemsworth back for the 4th one Because executives don't give a gently caress about character arcs. I guarantee you the decision process for that was "Boy, this Hemsworth kid is really popular! Let's get him back in a Star Track!" "Brilliant!" 
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Jul 26, 2016 18:11
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Baronjutter posted:What the heck is that from? Brent Spiner's genuine reaction to the first time Gates McFadden said the line "A particularly erotic chapter in my grandmother's journal."
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Payndz posted:The Royal Navy's Flower-class vessels gave the world the warships HMS Pansy, Daffodil, Buttercup and Geranium, amongst others. (Other RN vessels with odd names include HMS Spanker, HMS Cockchafer and HMS Black Joke. All of which should be starships, or at least Culture vessels.) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flower-class_corvette is a pro-click. I love how all the ones transferred to the US were given more manly names (HMS Mandrake became USS Haste, HMS Privet became USS Prudent, HMS Milfoil became USS Intensity, and so on.)
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FlamingLiberal posted:Yes, which is odd why they would bring Chris Hemsworth back for the 4th one And why they would announce this fact just before the third one came out at all, as if trying to pre-empt or deflate the events of that film. "It's okay! Everything goes right back to normal after this one!"
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More like they were waiting to see if the reaction to Beyond was positive before announcing plans for a sequel
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Tighclops posted:More like they were waiting to see if the reaction to Beyond was positive before announcing plans for a sequel
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No, it's just free marketing for the movie that's in theaters. Domestic box office seems pretty glum for this movie. Where ID showed growth day over day throughout the weekend, Beyond has dropped each day. Hopefully they see good returns in the markets yet to open or they won't be able to afford Hemsworth for a 4th movie.
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bull3964 posted:No, it's just free marketing for the movie that's in theaters. If the new series does well that may overcome somewhat weak box office numbers in their calculation.
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Shame they didn't give it to Pegg from the start. Could have been great instead of just good.
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bull3964 posted:No, it's just free marketing for the movie that's in theaters. Star Trek classically does very well in non-US markets, so there's no doubt in my mind that the movie will turn a profit.
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Just saw Beyond and nearly died of bij when they said the captain of the Franklin was a former MACO and then literally an NX class busted into the movie and surfed away on a cloud of bees I can't even
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Seriously thank you Star Trek Beyond for making me explain what a MACO is to another living being
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Mr. Jive posted:Just saw Beyond and nearly died of bij when they said the captain of the Franklin was a former MACO and then literally an NX class busted into the movie and surfed away on a cloud of bees That was actually the best part. Unless it was good bij, then OK! 
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I'm starting to think more people like the Enterprise references more than the Enterprise show
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Mogomra posted:That was actually the best part. Unless it was good bij, then OK! Good bij for sure
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Arglebargle III posted:The American namesake of Enterprise was a schooner with a few pop guns, not a 2 decker. And most of the British Enterprizes were apparently no big deal, but there were a couple 44 gunners named Enterprise in the 18th century so the name was being used by warships before the US even existed.
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FlamingLiberal posted:Yes, which is odd why they would bring Chris Hemsworth back for the 4th one Because it's the fourth movie so they have to do time travel. It's like symmetry. Star Trek 2: KHAAAAAAAN Star Trek 3: Enterprise destroyed Star Trek 4: Time Travel see? so simple
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Nitrousoxide posted:If the new series does well that may overcome somewhat weak box office numbers in their calculation. What's the bar for that? Subscriptions to CBS All Access/number of Netflix viewers in the rest of the world? Before, they could always look at ad revenue or number of stations paying syndication fees - how is "success" measured in the streaming-only world? Related, is this the biggest IP to go digital-only?
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Drink-Mix Man posted:I'm starting to think more people like the Enterprise references more than the Enterprise show
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Enterprise was more...Not Good than bad really. Voyager, on the other hand...
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:Because it's the fourth movie so they have to do time travel. It's like symmetry. Star Trek 1: Enterprise destroyed Star Trek 2: Enterprise destroyed Star Trek 3: Enterprise destroyed Star Trek 4: Enterprise destroyed????
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Tunicate posted:Star Trek 1: Enterprise destroyed Cause and Effect must have been such a fun episode for the effects people. [makes explosion noises]
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Tunicate posted:Star Trek 1: Enterprise destroyed I don't think Enterprise ever got wrecked in the first one 
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:I don't think Enterprise ever got wrecked in the first one It survived the first movie intact and the second with serious damage.
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After The War posted:What's the bar for that? Subscriptions to CBS All Access/number of Netflix viewers in the rest of the world? Before, they could always look at ad revenue or number of stations paying syndication fees - how is "success" measured in the streaming-only world? Well seeing as they will only be airing the series on their online platform they will have an exact number of unique and repeat views.
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Who's 'they' ? Two separate entities here. CBS has no reason to disclose their viewership numbers to Paramount and Paramount has no reason to care about a property that's in a different continuity delivered in a way that they can't translate into ticket sales.
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They are not competing properties. Like a hotdog and a bun, when one does good it makes the other more valuable. Plus both paramount and CBS are publicly traded companies so the revenue/viewer numbers will be public.
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Mogomra posted:That was actually the best part. Unless it was good bij, then OK! Actually the Who Mourns for Adonis reference was the best one.
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:I don't think Enterprise ever got wrecked in the first one It was totalled when they blew themselves up to escape a black hole. Technically in one piece but...
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CBS will release revenue numbers for their service, but they don't have to release viewer numbers anymore than Netflix does. Also, as with any subscription service, viewer numbers aren't what counts. Subs count. Discovery could be viewed by every single All Access subscriber, but if it didn't generate new subs, it will be considered a failure and probably not renewed. While Paramount would be more interested in how many eyeballs saw the show, CBS is more interested in how many new (and sustained) subs they get from the show. They are going to be interested in different metrics and that could put them at odds. If CBS cancels the show due to low conversion rate of streamers even if it was highly viewed by those who had the service, that could actually devalue the franchise.
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FlamingLiberal posted:Yes, which is odd why they would bring Chris Hemsworth back for the 4th one It's perfectly conceivable that he can appear in the next film without it being about Kirk's daddy issues. E: he's gonna be a clone of George Kirk (which explains why he will be younger than he looks), a sleeper agent sent to assasinate J Kirk. Subyng fucked around with this message at 00:38 on Jul 27, 2016 |
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Hello, new to Star Trek and I'm watching the Next Generation from S1 onwards. I'm aware of the Ferengi's lore to some degree, having watched a stray episode on the BBC. But I don't remember them being as uh... cartoony as in S1E4 where they were first introduced. When did their presentation change from the wriggling loony toons to just normal space yankee traders?
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Subyng posted:E: he's gonna be a clone of George Kirk (which explains why he will be younger than he looks), a sleeper agent sent to assasinate J Kirk. But then he's redeemed by the power of humanity. Nakedly.
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Tunicate posted:It was totalled when they blew themselves up to escape a black hole. Technically in one piece but... Oh, right. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7jsEckaQ4c&t=131s
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Nazareth posted:Hello, new to Star Trek and I'm watching the Next Generation from S1 onwards. Ferengi are pretty much always kind of goofy save for a couple episodes of DS9, but they're especially so in the first season of TNG.
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Nazareth posted:Hello, new to Star Trek and I'm watching the Next Generation from S1 onwards.
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The Ferengi were meant to be the original main opponent race of TNG, replacing the Cold War Russian Klingons and Chinese Romulas respectively with the evils of capitalism. Which, don't get me wrong, capitalism sucks, but man the Ferengi were a poor execution. So by the time DS9 rolls around they introduce a Ferengi main character with a lot of hidden depths as the show goes on, but starting with season one of DS9 the Ferengi, as a whole, are pretty much just comic relief, going from Captain Planet villains to a species of Mr. Krabs.
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