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Watched Deadpool, was a lot of fun, but in comics, is he that crass?
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Jul 26, 2016 05:22
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Calaveron posted:Watched Deadpool, was a lot of fun, but in comics, is he that crass? I'm just going to quote this so it's here forever.
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Jul 26, 2016 05:54
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Calaveron posted:Watched Deadpool, was a lot of fun, but in comics, is he that crass? No because comics aren't rated R. (Don't read Deadpool MAX, it's garbage)
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Jul 26, 2016 05:56
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I mean, to be fair, he goes pretty much as far as you can go in a non-Max title.
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Jul 26, 2016 05:57
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X-O posted:No because comics aren't rated R. (Don't read Deadpool MAX, it's garbage) ... I liked Deadpool Max. It was weird and interesting but my favorite Deadpool is Uncanny X-Force and for not being a giant Deadpool fan in general he may have been my favorite character in the book.
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Jul 26, 2016 06:15
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X-Force is a more restrained Deadpool since he's not the main character and the others in it aren't jokey types.
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Jul 26, 2016 13:10
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Sgt. Politeness posted:... I liked Deadpool Max. It was weird and interesting but my favorite Deadpool is Uncanny X-Force and for not being a giant Deadpool fan in general he may have been my favorite character in the book. Dad Jokes Uncanny X-Force Deadpool is best Deadpool.
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Jul 26, 2016 16:01
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I totally misread that as Unfunny X-force.
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Jul 26, 2016 18:38
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MrAristocrates posted:I didn't even know he'd gotten cast but apparently Tony Revolori is playing Flash Thompson? That's certainly an interesting choice. Ahaha a 5'6" Flash Thompson, thankfully RDJ is also in the movie so Tony can find out where he gets those lifts
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Jul 26, 2016 20:18
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A Flash who's more of a jealous rival to an effortlessly-smart-but-flaky Peter Parker is a hell of a lot more interesting than stereotypical jock-bully character. Although it removes the "nerd vs. popular crowd" dichotomy, but it could be done with any number of other ancillary high school extras.
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Jul 26, 2016 21:39
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Sumo posted:A Flash who's more of a jealous rival to an effortlessly-smart-but-flaky Peter Parker is a hell of a lot more interesting than stereotypical jock-bully character. Although it removes the "nerd vs. popular crowd" dichotomy, but it could be done with any number of other ancillary high school extras. Wouldn't that be Eddy Brock though?
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Jul 26, 2016 21:49
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Madkal posted:Wouldn't that be Eddy Brock though? I always saw Brock as an older, post-high school antagonist, but I guess that's true. I just think the "Varsity football quarterback jock bully with the cheerleader girlfriend" is played out. It seems more contemporary to have a high school rival vying for scholarships/valedictorian/etc and being outright furious that the guy who is always late for class keeps getting straight A's. And making it more of a competition (albeit one-sided and obsessive) vs. a straight-up bully. Like Salieri to Parker's Amadeus. I think it could be cool. 
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Jul 26, 2016 22:01
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Sumo posted:I just think the "Varsity football quarterback jock bully with the cheerleader girlfriend" is played out. It seems more contemporary to have a high school rival vying for scholarships/valedictorian/etc and being outright furious that the guy who is always late for class keeps getting straight A's. And making it more of a competition (albeit one-sided and obsessive) vs. a straight-up bully. I mean, for fucks sake, it could even extend to "Flash basically gets an iPhone 7+ every time the screen is smudged because he's rich, and Pete gets by on one of those Cricket $20 crap phones because he's poor as gently caress".
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Jul 27, 2016 00:47
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FilthyImp posted:Yup, exactly. It's a good update to the idea of these characters. Peter broke his Cricket phone open and filled it with the crap from Tony Stark's couch cushions and now it does poo poo Flash's iPhone can't even dream of.
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Jul 27, 2016 01:03
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Travis343 posted:Peter broke his Cricket phone open and filled it with the crap from Tony Stark's couch cushions and now it does poo poo Flash's iPhone can't even dream of. OK, you just gave me a thought. We know Iron Man (or was it Tony Stark only) is going to be in homecoming I can picture something like Flash walks up and says he's got a picture of himself with IM/Tony, building it up like it's a selfie or something - It's just like a really blurry IM in the background or a bad photoshop or something silly like that. It's garbage/fake, but all the cool kids go gaga over it. Peter comes back with an actual photograph of him with IM. Yeah, it's petty one-upsmanship, but it's high school and seems like the kind of behavior Tony would endorse.
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Jul 27, 2016 03:38
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CzarChasm posted:I can picture something like Flash walks up and says he's got a picture of himself with IM/Tony, building it up like it's a selfie or something - It's just like a really blurry IM in the background or a bad photoshop or something silly like that. It's garbage/fake, but all the cool kids go gaga over it.
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Jul 27, 2016 04:11
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Lobby Boy Agent Venom would be a possibility wouldn't it? And drat, nerds are trying to prove something by going "Uh Captain Marvel is a MAN, and is owned by DC" as if that is some hidden knowlage that is going to change everything. No one cares, no one is going to pat you on the back, it just makes you look like a dick. Though they really don't like it when you point out he's only part of DC because DC bought Fawcett comics, and that Shazam/CM was a rip off of Superman in the first place.
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Jul 27, 2016 04:45
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DC doesn't own "Captain Marvel." That's why he's not called that anymore.
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Jul 27, 2016 05:24
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twistedmentat posted:Lobby Boy Agent Venom would be a possibility wouldn't it? Captain Marvel wasn't a ripoff of Superman. At the time he was created they were exceptionally different characters except in being superheroes and Superman actually knocked off quite a few things from Captain Marvel. DC argued he was but that was generally considered a legitimately lovely ruling by pretty much everyone. I think trying to use it against Marvel's CM is dumb but other Captain Marvel is a pretty good character. Nerds being lovely on the internet has nothing to do with that. We probably wouldn't have anything resembling modern Superman if Otto Binder hadn't basically been asked to write Superman as he'd written Captain Marvel. (Said lovely nerds probably don't know anything about Captain Marvel of course.) Aphrodite posted:DC doesn't own "Captain Marvel." That's why he's not called that anymore. DC can still call him Captain Marvel. They choose not to for obvious reasons. He's still called Captain Marvel in non-mainline stories from time to time (like Morrison's Multiversity.) ImpAtom fucked around with this message at 05:50 on Jul 27, 2016 |
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Jul 27, 2016 05:43
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DC can't publish a title called Captain Marvel because Marvel has that copyright or trademark. So they decided to change his name.
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Jul 27, 2016 05:49
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Conceptually, I like Shazam more than Marvel Captain Marvel because it's just random Kree bullshit that I could really give a poo poo about, but a decent Marvel female hero that isn't an X-Men is pretty necessary. Doesn't stop me from really wanting a Shazam movie though.
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Jul 27, 2016 06:01
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ImpAtom posted:(Said lovely nerds probably don't know anything about Captain Marvel of course.) Fake geek boys.
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Jul 27, 2016 06:21
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Bruceski posted:Fake geek boys. It's true though. Same types of people who complained about Sam taking over as Cap (while not realizing Bucky do the same thing a few years ago) or Thor being a woman (despite something like Throg existing). A lot of people just want to rail against progression without having having any idea what they're talking about, and it paints all comic fans as weirdo misogynists
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Jul 27, 2016 06:46
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Retro Futurist posted:It's true though. Same types of people who complained about Sam taking over as Cap (while not realizing Bucky do the same thing a few years ago) or Thor being a woman (despite something like Throg existing). A lot of people just want to rail against progression without having having any idea what they're talking about, and it paints all comic fans as weirdo misogynists Oh definitely. I didn't mean that sarcastically.
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Jul 27, 2016 06:53
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Codependent Poster posted:DC can't publish a title called Captain Marvel because Marvel has that copyright or trademark. So they decided to change his name. Yes, DC let the trademark for comic book titles lapse so Marvel swooped in and scooped it up. From what I understand though this has no effect on being able to actually call the character Captain Marvel but it does make it more difficult to promote him. This isn't the first time they've tried to change the character's name to Shazam but it is the first time it looks like it is actually sticking.
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Jul 27, 2016 12:09
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Shazam's never done anything as interesting as the Death of Captain Marvel anyway.
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Jul 27, 2016 15:10
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Bruceski posted:Fake geek boys. Oh, I'm sure they're geeks. Just the kind of geek who is looking for some excuse to be lovely.
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Jul 27, 2016 15:14
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muscles like this? posted:This isn't the first time they've tried to change the character's name to Shazam but it is the first time it looks like it is actually sticking.
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Jul 27, 2016 16:36
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Lurdiak posted:Shazam's never done anything as interesting as the Death of Captain Marvel anyway. This isn't even remotely true!
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Jul 27, 2016 16:40
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FilthyImp posted:Yup, exactly. It's a good update to the idea of these characters. If you zoom in closely to this pic you can see he has a broken iPhone 3GS 
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Jul 27, 2016 20:24
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Conrad_Birdie posted:This isn't even remotely true! Yeah, what a wild claim that a B-lister has never done anything more interesting than one of the best superhero comics ever published.
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Jul 27, 2016 20:36
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muscles like this? posted:Yes, DC let the trademark for comic book titles lapse so Marvel swooped in and scooped it up. From what I understand though this has no effect on being able to actually call the character Captain Marvel but it does make it more difficult to promote him. This isn't the first time they've tried to change the character's name to Shazam but it is the first time it looks like it is actually sticking. Marvel's Captain Marvel came out in the '60's it looks like, and DC licensed (not bought, yet, that came later) the rights for Fawcett's Captain Marvel in the '70's (if I'm getting this right).
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Jul 27, 2016 20:48
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Lurdiak posted:Yeah, what a wild claim that a B-lister has never done anything more interesting than one of the best superhero comics ever published. Nah, he's had a lot of excellent stories. Even if you just go stand-alone Jeff Smith's Monster Society of Evil is a top-notch book. Obviously more lighthearted than Death of Captain Marvel but of extremely high quality.
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Jul 27, 2016 21:08
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Jerry Ordway's The Power of Shazam is great too, and I hear wonderful things about the Golden Age stuff
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Jul 27, 2016 21:16
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:Jerry Ordway's The Power of Shazam is great too, and I hear wonderful things about the Golden Age stuff Power of Shazam is wonderful. The Golden Age stuff is like... The original Monster Society of Evil arc is amazing for the time but it needs "for the time" in glowing neon letters superimposed over the words racism. And while it is very much 'for the time' racism and the actually made attempts at being inclusive, that doesn't change the fact it is racist as poo poo. A lot of stories are genuinely good-hearted, inclusive and positive but every so often you wander into Steamboat and get a pretty harsh reminder.
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Jul 27, 2016 21:19
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FilthyImp posted:Changing the character name to the world that triggers his transformation must make it hard when it comes to introductions. I'd probably just go by Billy.
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Jul 27, 2016 22:49
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muscles like this? posted:Yes, DC let the trademark for comic book titles lapse so Marvel swooped in and scooped it up. From what I understand though this has no effect on being able to actually call the character Captain Marvel but it does make it more difficult to promote him. This isn't the first time they've tried to change the character's name to Shazam but it is the first time it looks like it is actually sticking. When I was a kid, we called him Shazam and that was the 80s. Retro Futurist posted:It's true though. Same types of people who complained about Sam taking over as Cap (while not realizing Bucky do the same thing a few years ago) or Thor being a woman (despite something like Throg existing). A lot of people just want to rail against progression without having having any idea what they're talking about, and it paints all comic fans as weirdo misogynists I don't think its intentional, as there are people saying "God drat femnazi movies!", but I think they're just ultra conservative and always want the original to be how things are always and forever.
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Jul 27, 2016 23:34
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For some reason I have the strange belief that the Batman in SS isn't Affleck. I'm sure It's Bruce and all and that is the same character, but I don't think I've ever seen tea confirmation that Ben is in it. Am I wrong?
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Jul 28, 2016 19:36
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omg chael crash posted:For some reason I have the strange belief that the Batman in SS isn't Affleck. I'm sure Yes.
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Jul 28, 2016 19:36
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It's BaleBatman, because BvS Batfleck is actually Deathstroke.
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