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stubblyhead
Sep 13, 2007

That is treason, Johnny!

Fun Shoe
The longest I've ever been at one company was just shy of four years, and I'd been looking to move on for a while at that point. I really can't conceive of staying at one place for such a long time. My dad was a college professor and spent about 35 years at the same school.

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Bob Morales
Aug 18, 2006


Just wear the fucking mask, Bob

I don't care how many people I probably infected with COVID-19 while refusing to wear a mask, my comfort is far more important than the health and safety of everyone around me!

MC Fruit Stripe posted:

I don't go for this at all. The whole "I get to be a dick until I've had my coffee because isn't that charming?" - if you're at work, you're on.

Edited my post, forgot to add these people don't drink coffee :haw:

Bob Morales fucked around with this message at 13:32 on Jul 27, 2016

Bob Morales
Aug 18, 2006


Just wear the fucking mask, Bob

I don't care how many people I probably infected with COVID-19 while refusing to wear a mask, my comfort is far more important than the health and safety of everyone around me!

stubblyhead posted:

I really can't conceive of staying at one place for such a long time. My dad was a college professor and spent about 35 years at the same school.
It would be nice to have that kind of job security.

PBS
Sep 21, 2015

Bob Morales posted:

It would be nice to have that kind of job security.

There are a ton of people at my company that have been there that long or nearly that long, but it's probably because none of them have any ambition.

Bob Morales
Aug 18, 2006


Just wear the fucking mask, Bob

I don't care how many people I probably infected with COVID-19 while refusing to wear a mask, my comfort is far more important than the health and safety of everyone around me!

PBS posted:

There are a ton of people at my company that have been there that long or nearly that long, but it's probably because none of them have any ambition.

It was an Office Space quote.

Peter Gibbons: What if we're still doing this when we're fifty?
Samir: It would be nice to have that kind of job security.


Related: How useless someone is at my place of employment correlates to how long they have been here.

Fil5000
Jun 23, 2003

HOLD ON GUYS I'M POSTING ABOUT INTERNET ROBOTS

MC Fruit Stripe posted:

I don't go for this at all. The whole "I get to be a dick until I've had my coffee because isn't that charming?" - if you're at work, you're on.

I had to stop drinking caffeine at the start of this year, going from three or four cups a day to nothing basically overnight. Turns out I'm exactly the same without it as I was with it, which is to say I can do my goddamned job in the morning.

stubblyhead
Sep 13, 2007

That is treason, Johnny!

Fun Shoe
Why "had to"?

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

Caffeine can complicate the care of some medical conditions.

Bob Morales
Aug 18, 2006


Just wear the fucking mask, Bob

I don't care how many people I probably infected with COVID-19 while refusing to wear a mask, my comfort is far more important than the health and safety of everyone around me!

stubblyhead posted:

Why "had to"?
Caffeine sensitivity, heart issues, anxiety, insomnia, joined up with the Mormons...

Fil5000
Jun 23, 2003

HOLD ON GUYS I'M POSTING ABOUT INTERNET ROBOTS

stubblyhead posted:

Why "had to"?

I developed atrial fibrillation, and caffeine and alcohol are bad for it. After spending a week in a cardiac critical care unit I was a bit gunshy about ever touching either again, but after assurances from my consultant that in moderation it's ok, I've worked I can have a beer or two or one decent cup of coffee without setting it off. Mostly I stick to decaf though.

Edit: I should have said Mormonism.

Arsten
Feb 18, 2003

stubblyhead posted:

The longest I've ever been at one company was just shy of four years, and I'd been looking to move on for a while at that point. I really can't conceive of staying at one place for such a long time. My dad was a college professor and spent about 35 years at the same school.

I've been at this job longer than any other job. :feelsgood: Granted, my actual work responsibilities and load changes fairly frequently and most of the people I work with are enjoyable. (Those that aren't are so off the scale in the other direction that they show up here :v: )

At my fifth year, I got two $100 gift cards, a bottle of top-shelf scotch, and an iPhone/iPod radio dealie.

Orcs and Ostriches
Aug 26, 2010


The Great Twist

Bob Morales posted:

We have a few people here that are totally zombies/assholes until 10:30am or so. They don't drink coffee.

DRINK SOME loving COFFEE SO YOU CAN FUNCTION AT 8:00

This is me.

Except if I drank coffee I'd be in the bathroom until 10:30, so either way it sucks.

Bob Morales
Aug 18, 2006


Just wear the fucking mask, Bob

I don't care how many people I probably infected with COVID-19 while refusing to wear a mask, my comfort is far more important than the health and safety of everyone around me!

Orcs and Ostriches posted:

This is me.

Except if I drank coffee I'd be in the bathroom until 10:30, so either way it sucks.

Drink your first cup of coffee, take your first poo poo. Ready to go.

ptier
Jul 2, 2007

Back off man, I'm a scientist.
Pillbug

Bob Morales posted:

We have a few people here that are totally zombies/assholes until 10:30am or so. They don't drink coffee exercise or get enough sleep like a normal human.

DRINK SOME loving COFFEE ACT LIKE AN ADULT SO YOU CAN FUNCTION AT 8:00

EDIT: I also know people that just have chronic sleeping issues and they will be out of it until they wake up. But still, being assholes because of it is a dick move.

ptier fucked around with this message at 16:03 on Jul 27, 2016

Proteus Jones
Feb 28, 2013



stubblyhead posted:

The longest I've ever been at one company was just shy of four years, and I'd been looking to move on for a while at that point. I really can't conceive of staying at one place for such a long time. My dad was a college professor and spent about 35 years at the same school.

I'm in my 6th year here. I've stayed because I keep getting (good) changes in responsibilities (along with raises), or in the case of 2 weeks ago, a promotion and bump in pay grade. As long as things stay interesting and the compensation matches or exceeds industry avg, I'm cool staying here for a while.

Arsten posted:

most of the people I work with are enjoyable. (Those that aren't are so off the scale in the other direction that they show up here :v: )

This too.

Dick Trauma
Nov 30, 2007

God damn it, you've got to be kind.
Despite my long history of terrible employers I've actually done better the last 15 years in terms of duration. I've gone something like 4 years, 3 years, 2 years, 4 years and I'm now 1.5 years into this job. Going all the way back to high school though holy poo poo have I had a lot of jobs, some as short as 1 day. There are times when one of these old jobs will bubble up from my memory and I'll be like "Oh, yeah... I colorized black and white movies once..."

Driving around L.A. is like visiting a graveyard of past jobs and interviews.

meanieface
Mar 27, 2012

During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.
Due to changes in management and dick-measuring contests, for any future and ongoing work in my queue I must provide a date by which the work will be done. I must do so without any requirements being gathered, and without any "difficulty" estimates on the work.

Additionally, I'm held to this date come hell or high water. If my boss directly tells me to postpone work for client B because client C is having a hissy fit (this happens), and I blow B's date because of the excessive hand-holding and over-analysis required at whim but not included in my timeline, I'm in trouble. If I suggest we write unit tests to deal with some of this, I get yelled at. (Actual yelling.)

I spent thirty minutes going through my queue yesterday with said boss, so I'd know what was "priority work", then got a change in priorities and request for final dates on new work first thing this morning. :bang:

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

My 15 year anniversary is a month away.

Government work makes you complacent. :v: It's a pretty good gig too, frustrations aside.

In my defense, the wife and I have been making plans to uproot and move across the country but it's still a year or two off.

stubblyhead
Sep 13, 2007

That is treason, Johnny!

Fun Shoe

meanieface posted:

I spent thirty minutes going through my queue yesterday with said boss, so I'd know what was "priority work", then got a change in priorities and request for final dates on new work first thing this morning. :bang:

Sounds like it's time to :frogout:

nexus6
Sep 2, 2011

If only you could see what I've seen with your eyes

stubblyhead posted:

The longest I've ever been at one company was just shy of four years, and I'd been looking to move on for a while at that point. I really can't conceive of staying at one place for such a long time. My dad was a college professor and spent about 35 years at the same school.

That's because academics fear the real world. My Dad works at a university and professor left at 50. He had no idea how to go about getting another job since he never had to find one before.

RFC2324
Jun 7, 2012

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nexus6 posted:

That's because academics fear the real world. My Dad works at a university and professor left at 50. He had no idea how to go about getting another job since he never had to find one before.

Its not just academics. Baby boomers who suddenly have to job hunt make me laugh and cry at the same time, since they don't understand that you can't just walk in and hand over a resume to a hiring manager.

A few years back while I still struggling to get my life on track, my stepdad cost me a job I was gonna get(at the local WISP) because he didn't understand that calling someone or stopping in at their office every single day is not considered an admirable sign of tenacity nowadays, just an obnoxious prick.

Arsten
Feb 18, 2003

RFC2324 posted:

Its not just academics. Baby boomers who suddenly have to job hunt make me laugh and cry at the same time, since they don't understand that you can't just walk in and hand over a resume to a hiring manager.

A few years back while I still struggling to get my life on track, my stepdad cost me a job I was gonna get(at the local WISP) because he didn't understand that calling someone or stopping in at their office every single day is not considered an admirable sign of tenacity nowadays, just an obnoxious prick.

This still works in some industries, because the management is mostly boomers.

I've heard stories from people during the down turn where their parents will walk into a place and come out proud that they managed to get a job application for their post-grad child at entry-level wages, following it up with phrases like "In my day, you worked your way up! :v: " One of the guys I hired a few years ago got kicked out of his parents' house because he apparently got all sarcastic at his mother and was like "Thanks. I couldn't have secured this 7-11 job application without you."

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

You gotta keep in mind that once you're older than 35 the world gives no shits about you or what you think, it's moved on and changed with no fanfare.

Granted being old means you should be wise enough to know you're missing out so let's just go with everyone is an ignorant doofus.

RFC2324
Jun 7, 2012

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xzzy posted:

You gotta keep in mind that once you're older than 35 the world gives no shits about you or what you think, it's moved on and changed with no fanfare.

Granted being old means you should be wise enough to know you're missing out so let's just go with everyone is an ignorant doofus.

gently caress, I'm about to turn 37.

Guess I'll just have to make myself feel better owning things and doing what I want with my life, while doing everything I can to make sure those drat millennials can never succeed in life.

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

RFC2324 posted:

gently caress, I'm about to turn 37.

Bad news, you're basically dead. From here on it's matinee movies and bifocals.

ptier
Jul 2, 2007

Back off man, I'm a scientist.
Pillbug

xzzy posted:

Bad news, you're basically dead. From here on it's matinee movies and bifocals.

But we get to eat earlier and go to bed whenever the hell we please (7pm!)

Arsten
Feb 18, 2003

xzzy posted:

Bad news, you're basically dead. From here on it's matinee movies and bifocals.

Please. Bifocals are so Ben Franklin. The new hotness is trifocals! You can't even tell if you are walking on ground or memories!

RFC2324 posted:

gently caress, I'm about to turn 37.

Guess I'll just have to make myself feel better owning things and doing what I want with my life, while doing everything I can to make sure those drat millennials can never succeed in life.
And remember: No sex until you are old and saggy enough to make the new youngin's gag! :v:

RFC2324
Jun 7, 2012

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Arsten posted:

Please. Bifocals are so Ben Franklin. The new hotness is trifocals! You can't even tell if you are walking on ground or memories!

And remember: No sex until you are old and saggy enough to make the new youngin's gag! :v:

What if its sex so weird it makes the youngins gag? :getin:

MF_James
May 8, 2008
I CANNOT HANDLE BEING CALLED OUT ON MY DUMBASS OPINIONS ABOUT ANTI-VIRUS AND SECURITY. I REALLY LIKE TO THINK THAT I KNOW THINGS HERE

INSTEAD I AM GOING TO WHINE ABOUT IT IN OTHER THREADS SO MY OPINION CAN FEEL VALIDATED IN AN ECHO CHAMBER I LIKE

this thread has taken an odd turn, you old farts need to stop waking up at 4am and talking about old man stuff, go pop a viagra and have some fun before work.

RFC2324
Jun 7, 2012

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MF_James posted:

this thread has taken an odd turn, you old farts need to stop waking up at 4am and talking about old man stuff, go pop a viagra and have some fun before work.

My trophy wife is still asleep.

MF_James
May 8, 2008
I CANNOT HANDLE BEING CALLED OUT ON MY DUMBASS OPINIONS ABOUT ANTI-VIRUS AND SECURITY. I REALLY LIKE TO THINK THAT I KNOW THINGS HERE

INSTEAD I AM GOING TO WHINE ABOUT IT IN OTHER THREADS SO MY OPINION CAN FEEL VALIDATED IN AN ECHO CHAMBER I LIKE

RFC2324 posted:

My trophy wife is still asleep.

I could say some really gross poo poo about waking her up but I'll refrain :p

Dick Trauma
Nov 30, 2007

God damn it, you've got to be kind.
During an impromptu lunchtime trivia contest people broke up into age range teams and I was claimed by the THIRTIES. :q:

Arsten
Feb 18, 2003

RFC2324 posted:

My trophy wife is still asleep.

Then you shouldn't have slipped her a mickey in the first place.

RFC2324
Jun 7, 2012

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Arsten posted:

Then you shouldn't have slipped her a mickey in the first place.

MF_James posted:

I could say some really gross poo poo about waking her up but I'll refrain :p

:getin:

MisterZimbu
Mar 13, 2006

meanieface posted:

Due to changes in management and dick-measuring contests, for any future and ongoing work in my queue I must provide a date by which the work will be done. I must do so without any requirements being gathered, and without any "difficulty" estimates on the work.

Additionally, I'm held to this date come hell or high water. If my boss directly tells me to postpone work for client B because client C is having a hissy fit (this happens), and I blow B's date because of the excessive hand-holding and over-analysis required at whim but not included in my timeline, I'm in trouble. If I suggest we write unit tests to deal with some of this, I get yelled at. (Actual yelling.)

I spent thirty minutes going through my queue yesterday with said boss, so I'd know what was "priority work", then got a change in priorities and request for final dates on new work first thing this morning. :bang:

"What are the final dates for Projects A, B, C, D, and E?"

"It's hard to say, it really depends on how long it takes you to find my replacement."

FlapYoJacks
Feb 12, 2009

MF_James posted:

this thread has taken an odd turn, you old farts need to stop waking up at 4am and talking about old man stuff, go pop a viagra and have some fun before work.

I wake up a 530 to go to the gym. :v:


meanieface posted:

If I suggest we write unit tests to deal with some of this, I get yelled at. (Actual yelling.)

Lmbo, if somebody yelled at me I would get up and walk right out without a second thought. Holy poo poo why haven't you yet?

FlapYoJacks fucked around with this message at 19:47 on Jul 27, 2016

Irritated Goat
Mar 12, 2005

This post is pathetic.
Pissing me off:

I work for an MSP.

In the last few months:

We finally said we were going to treat ourselves like we do our clients. Previous admin team who is constantly booked with client work retains control and doesn't bother responding when I put in a change request to help clean up our systems.

We show work by ticket time\utilization. Today I've had a grand total of 3 tickets taking less than 10 minutes each. Anxiety of worrying i'll be fired is now permanent.

Previously a Infrastructure Engineer, now I'm Service Desk Tier 2. :sigh: I worked 5 years to get out of Tier 1.

Speaking of that, Tier 1 is short handed so we're taking some of their calls for call transfers, password resets and general junk that I think I deserve not to deal with after 5 years of proving myself.

Not pissing me off:

My family is closing on their 1st house (3bd\2bath) in August and the mortgage is only $40 higher than what I pay in rent for an apartment (2bd\1 1/2 bath).


Sorry for venting but holy poo poo, I'm just losing all faith in this company :(

Inspector_666
Oct 7, 2003

benny with the good hair

ratbert90 posted:

Lmbo, if somebody yelled at me I would get up and walk right out without a second thought. Holy poo poo why haven't you yet?

I got yelled at the other month because I told my manager it wasn't possible to sort a report the way he wanted (it isn't.)

That was fun.

FlapYoJacks
Feb 12, 2009

Inspector_666 posted:

I got yelled at the other month because I told my manager it wasn't possible to sort a report the way he wanted (it isn't.)

That was fun.

Hold on: you said "my manager" which means he raised his voice, acted like a child, treated you like a child, and you didn't leave?

What the heck dude?

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Inspector_666
Oct 7, 2003

benny with the good hair

ratbert90 posted:

Hold on: you said "my manager" which means he raised his voice, acted like a child, treated you like a child, and you didn't leave?

What the heck dude?

There are a lot of issues with the types of poo poo I get to deal with at my current job, but I like everybody else I work with enough to put up with it at the moment. I am going to start looking more actively though.

EDIT: I just really loving hate the job searching and application process that much.

Inspector_666 fucked around with this message at 20:01 on Jul 27, 2016

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