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I never put Insurrection as low as Nemesis, simply because Insurrection can be so easily ignored. The stakes are so low, everything is so cheap, it's really drat stupid, but you can tune it out effortlessly should you ever have to see it. While parts of it are outright terrible, too, the majority of the film is just like... plain oatmeal. Nemesis, conceptually, could have been strong. I mean, it probably was never gonna be great, but it could have at least been around First Contact good. But everything goes loving wrong with it, over and over, in ways so absurd you'd think anyone could see something was deeply wrong. It's such a botch job you'd almost think it was on purpose.
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# ? Jul 22, 2016 21:04 |
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Insurrection was tame, and a letdown coming after First Contact, but if you had shot exactly that script in 1992 as a two-parter it would have been solid Trek. Well, manual steering and stuff would be dumb, but the core of the movie would have worked fine. Nemesis was just through and through. kalensc fucked around with this message at 21:30 on Jul 22, 2016 |
# ? Jul 22, 2016 21:25 |
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Nemesis I still don't understand. Blood and cloning r something? If they had just remade Lifeforce as a Star Trek movie it would have been much better.
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# ? Jul 22, 2016 22:46 |
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Is Nemesis responsible for Tom Hardy's acting career? If so it gave us that at least
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# ? Jul 22, 2016 22:51 |
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The Vosgian Beast posted:Is Nemesis responsible for Fat Data? If so it gave us that at least How I see things
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# ? Jul 22, 2016 22:55 |
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The Vosgian Beast posted:Is Nemesis responsible for Tom Hardy's acting career? If so it gave us that at least In the sense its failure drove him into a spiral of depression and alcoholism that he had to pull himself out of with acting, yes it is.
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# ? Jul 23, 2016 01:57 |
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Basically :quote:Baird didn't have a background in Star Trek; he was aware of the films and television series but didn't consider himself to be an expert on the subject quote:Despite Frakes being on the cast, and having directed the previous two Star Trek films, Baird decided not to seek his opinion on the direction of the film. He said that there was resentment on set, as Frakes was completing work on directing the film Clockstoppers as production on Nemesis began quote:Berman has stated that about 50 minutes worth of scenes were filmed, but cut (though not necessarily all of them were usable in a final form) quote:He wanted to add energy to the actions scenes and added some scenes, such as the car chase. He called that scene a "signature piece" for the film which turns dark after the crew is put in danger by the inhabitants of the planet. quote:Actors LeVar Burton (Geordi La Forge) and Marina Sirtis (Deanna Troi) have spoken critically of director Stuart Baird, criticizing him for not watching any of the episodes of The Next Generation.[24] Sirtis has bluntly called Baird "an idiot."[25] Jonathan Frakes, while praising both the character of Shinzon and actor Tom Hardy (who played the role), said that if he himself had directed, as he had done with the previous two Trek films, he would have made the film less villain-centric and given more screen time to the regular The Next Generation cast.[26] All from wiki. I'm sure memory alpha has a lot more thorough explanations of what went wrong. From what I've seen online, it was a mess from conception.
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# ? Jul 23, 2016 02:21 |
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Mojo Threepwood posted:I did like when they were discussing a worse version of Mos Eisley and Eric slipped in "Mos Epsa." That was a deep cut. It's little moments like this one that make me feel a little better about how much of my brain is still occupied with Star Wars EU trivia.
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# ? Jul 23, 2016 06:05 |
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Honestly, First Contact is not all that great either. It has some pretty great ideas, especially the Borg invasion of the Enterprise, but that storyline and the one about First Contact clearly should have been separated movies.
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# ? Jul 23, 2016 15:21 |
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e X posted:Honestly, First Contact is not all that great either. It has some pretty great ideas, especially the Borg invasion of the Enterprise, but that storyline and the one about First Contact clearly should have been separated movies. First Contact is fine, even if it's a bit schlocky. Also a movie just about the Borg taking over the Enterprise would be a complete waste, they had much higher stakes than that on the show.
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# ? Jul 23, 2016 15:48 |
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Not long after WHM covered it, it's the tenth anniversary of Lady In The Water and pop culture podcast Thirty Twenty Ten namedropped We Hate Movies when LITW was brought up in this weeks episode. We even got a similar Giamatti impression. I feel real sorry for Paul Giamatti. Everyone treats him like a huge dork when he actually seems pretty cool.
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# ? Jul 24, 2016 02:07 |
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DoubleCakes posted:I feel real sorry for Paul Giamatti. Everyone treats him like a huge dork when he actually seems pretty cool. It's just fun to lampoon his penchant for playing sadsack characters. No one thinks he's like that, it's just funny because he plays a lot of Harvey Pekar-esque characters.
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Unmature posted:It's just fun to lampoon his penchant for playing sadsack characters. No one thinks he's like that, it's just funny because he plays a lot of Harvey Pekar-esque characters. American Splendor is a loving great movie
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# ? Jul 24, 2016 03:47 |
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Con Air is up! WHM + Nic Cage marries two of my greatest joys. This one's a total We Love Movies.
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# ? Jul 27, 2016 11:19 |
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I listened to the Final Frontier episode this week and have to say the moment that Eric suddenly goes into McCoy reciting the lyrics to "Nookie" was one of the most hilarious things I've heard from this show.
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# ? Jul 27, 2016 23:52 |
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I'm glad that they were pretty cold on Con Air because I've never really gotten the love that movie gets. They're absolutely on-point about how the movie is too rapey and edgy to be breezy fun but too stupid and Bay-aping to be serious so it's mostly just uncomfortable and gross aside from a few standout moments.
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# ? Jul 27, 2016 23:59 |
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New character, John Cellphone, joins Eric Movie and Charles Cinemax III in the "out of nowhere" club.
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# ? Jul 28, 2016 00:38 |
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Croisquessein posted:New character, John Cellphone, joins Eric Movie and Charles Cinemax III in the "out of nowhere" club. Pretty sure it's a camp, not a club.
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# ? Jul 28, 2016 00:54 |
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Croisquessein posted:New character, John Cellphone, joins Eric Movie and Charles Cinemax III in the "out of nowhere" club. MARTIN Cinemax III
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# ? Jul 28, 2016 03:26 |
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Paul W. Reddit posted:MARTIN Cinemax III
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# ? Jul 28, 2016 05:01 |
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The last time they mentioned Hell on Wheels I was curious, because I was still really enjoying the first season. I finished season 2 this week and I'm done. Three more seasons? You can keep it. Kind of like Paul Giamatti, I feel real sorry for Colm Meaney. His characters are easy to make fun of but it seems like he's had a good career.
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# ? Jul 28, 2016 16:49 |
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Honestly I think he's had a great career considering it's spun from mostly TV spots and a recurring role on early TNG. Things ended up a bit differently, O'Brien would've been mentioned in the same breath as Chief Engineer Argyle or Assistant Chief Engineer Shimoba.
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# ? Jul 29, 2016 09:10 |
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Listening to Con Air made me realise....the show is better when Andrew is angry?
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# ? Jul 29, 2016 09:11 |
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well why not posted:Honestly I think he's had a great career considering it's spun from mostly TV spots and a recurring role on early TNG. Things ended up a bit differently, O'Brien would've been mentioned in the same breath as Chief Engineer Argyle or Assistant Chief Engineer Shimoba. Not really, he was already an accomplished actor with several leading roles in the UK and Ireland before he got the gig on TNG. Funnily enough most of his big roles before he was Chief O'Brien, a kind work horse of a man, had him playing villains and bullies. He was also a secondary villain in Under Siege.
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Baka-nin posted:Not really, he was already an accomplished actor with several leading roles in the UK and Ireland before he got the gig on TNG. Funnily enough most of his big roles before he was Chief O'Brien, a kind work horse of a man, had him playing villains and bullies. He was also a secondary villain in Under Siege. Yeah, he's in Layer Cake as one of Daniel Craig's associates.
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# ? Jul 29, 2016 13:40 |
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Yeah he was a pretty good heavy back in the day. It's kind of weird to see it though, like seeing Red from "That 70s Show" as a heavy in Robocop and Total Recall.
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YES, seeing Kurtwood Smith pop up as a villain in anything still gives me a good chuckle. Same with Norm from Fargo, whose real name I always forget.
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# ? Jul 29, 2016 14:14 |
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New mailbag is loving amazing.
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Josef K. Sourdust posted:Listening to Con Air made me realise....the show is better when Andrew is angry? I wasn't getting into this episode too much, then Big Daddy talk happened and everything was a-okay.
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# ? Jul 29, 2016 22:36 |
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Is it just me, or has Chris been really quiet these past two episodes? I'm guessing he's just out of practice with the whole group-riffing thing.
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# ? Jul 29, 2016 23:22 |
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I'm not convinced that the procedure was 100% successful.
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# ? Jul 30, 2016 04:16 |
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ravenkult posted:New mailbag is loving amazing. I loved Andrew's power trip story, I've totally been that rear end in a top hat before.
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# ? Jul 30, 2016 04:38 |
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ravenkult posted:New mailbag is loving amazing. That deadpan "very nice" every time someone mentions Borat gets me every time.
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# ? Jul 30, 2016 09:58 |
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"And that's the story of how I saw U-571 in the theaters." We've all been there, man; I say Star Trek: Nemesis...on purpose.
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# ? Jul 30, 2016 16:40 |
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That was a fantastic mailbag, best part was Eric being escorted by security to see Keeping the Faith, and the theater posting a guard outside to make sure he stayed in there. Will be interesting to see what their Patreon looks like, might have animation damnation stretch goals or something.
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# ? Jul 30, 2016 18:39 |
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Mojo Threepwood posted:That was a fantastic mailbag, best part was Eric being escorted by security to see Keeping the Faith, and the theater posting a guard outside to make sure he stayed in there. Columbine made a lot of movie theaters go pants-on-head crazy about underage people seeing R-rated movies, and they never really loosened up afterward.
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# ? Jul 30, 2016 18:51 |
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Their first vacation live show is up, Predator 2. Any episode with Gary Busey leads to good times.
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# ? Aug 2, 2016 14:07 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2D1AVDFp3l0 The traveler has come (17 seconds in)
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# ? Aug 3, 2016 12:19 |
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How is the sound quality?
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I can't listen to their Gary Busey impression without picturing Holly Hunter.
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