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Powershift
Nov 23, 2009


InitialDave posted:



Probably more a horrible driver failure.

Coincidence? this was posted on one of the russian sites i frequent.








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Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

MrYenko posted:

Medical oxygen has a certain amount of moisture added back into it before the gas is bottled. Aviator's Breathing Oxygen does not, and is bone dry. Water vapor freezing in your oxygen system at 30000ft is no Bueno. Never use medical oxygen as a substitute. :pseudo:

Good tip! In the future I'll remember not to fill my tires with medical oxygen.

Queen_Combat
Jan 15, 2011
Not all medical oxygen does. That's why we have to use humidifiers.

A and B tanks are generally dry. D tanks for ambulance use are, too. C tanks, though, are a crapshoot.

Disgruntled Bovine
Jul 5, 2010

kastein posted:

Yeah, isn't there a substantial risk of explosive self decomposition above 14psi or so with nondissolved acetylene?

Yeah you don't want anything to do with undissolved acetylene above 15 psi.

It does take shock to set it off, though the reaction can be catalyzed by copper so never use copper or brass fittings for gas welding.

Edit: the tanks are also filled with a porous material called agamassan to prevent build-up of dangerous concentrations of acetylene gas as the tank is emptied.

Acetylene tank cut in half:



Honestly the stuff is nasty as hell and I don't know how anyone ever figured out how to use it safely.

Disgruntled Bovine fucked around with this message at 03:48 on Jul 28, 2016

EKDS5k
Feb 22, 2012

THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU LET YOUR BEER FREEZE, DAMNIT

kastein posted:

Yeah, isn't there a substantial risk of explosive self decomposition above 14psi or so with nondissolved acetylene?

Yes, that's why there's a big red "DO NOT GO THIS HIGH" indicator on acetylene regulators.

iwentdoodie
Apr 29, 2005

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EKDS5k posted:

Yes, that's why there's a big red "DO NOT GO THIS HIGH" indicator on acetylene regulators.

On deployment some guys were doing a braze job in the O2N2 plant space, on some piping that's not on the clean side thankfully. System was supposedly drained and depressurized and was tagged out. It had some other form of flammable gas in it.

As one guy sweated off the old fitting, as soon as it got hot gas started spewing out, which created a fireball that shot about 6 feet and just kept spewing flame.

The firewatch, seeing this and watching the guy fall down, assumes he's dead. He drags the torch lines back toward him, and in a panic turns the nozzles off. Except he opened acetylene all the way, and closed the oxygen. Then sprinted back to the bottles, and did the same. Somehow he also hit the regulator.

Instead of calling away the loving FIRE IN THE MOST FLAMMABLE GODDAMN SPACE ON A SHIP, he runs back to our shop, where I was cutting some sheet metal.

Run back to the space, and the flame has stopped...but all you see is the black poo poo that acetylene lets off floating in the air, and the entire space REEKS.

So, I grab the torch and kill the acetylene. Run back to the bottle, and he had opened it full and when he hit the regulator it bumped it to 17 psi.

I don't think I've ever been that loving scared.

sharkytm
Oct 9, 2003

Ba

By

Sharkytm doot doo do doot do doo


Fallen Rib
Oh man, parachuters in a flammable space. Not loving cool.

iwentdoodie
Apr 29, 2005

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sharkytm posted:

Oh man, parachuters in a flammable space. Not loving cool.

I wasn't sure how many people called them that so I refrained :v:

And yeah, it sucked. I remember we had training a few days later, and one of our guys asked a salty rear end master chief what to do if there's a fire in the O2N2 plant and his reply was "run to the opposite end of the loving ship and hope you hit the water before shrapnel hits you."

Aircraft carriers are fun.

The Door Frame
Dec 5, 2011

I don't know man everytime I go to the gym here there are like two huge dudes with raging high and tights snorting Nitro-tech off of each other's rock hard abs.

iwentdoodie posted:

On deployment some guys were doing a braze job in the O2N2 plant space

iwentdoodie posted:

fire in the O2N2 plant

:confused:

http://www.militarynews.com/norfolk-navy-flagship/news/quarterdeck/a-bunch-of-air-heads-o-n-plant/article_926b26fa-763a-5855-9a52-f642c1dd84f4.html posted:

The O2N2 plant operators use a machine, called a producer unit, to produce liquid oxygen (LOX) and liquid nitrogen (LIN) from ambient air... the Oxygen Nitrogen (O2N2) plants on board the Navy’s forward-deployed aircraft carrier USS Ronald Reagan (CVN 76), to provide O2 and N2 services for her more than 5,000 Sailors and 70 aircraft of the embarked Carrier Air Wing (CVW) 5.

:stonk:

Provided that it happened on an American ship, according to wikipedia, there's a 50% chance that this was on a ship with enough fissile material to run for 20 consecutive years, plus all of the fuel for all of the aircraft; and a 50% chance that it was on a ship with the aforementioned aircraft fuel, plus fuel for its massive gas powered turbines. I don't know which scenario is scarier

iwentdoodie
Apr 29, 2005

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The Door Frame posted:

:confused:


:stonk:

Provided that it happened on an American ship, according to wikipedia, there's a 50% chance that this was on a ship with enough fissile material to run for 20 consecutive years, plus all of the fuel for all of the aircraft; and a 50% chance that it was on a ship with the aforementioned aircraft fuel, plus fuel for its massive gas powered turbines. I don't know which scenario is scarier

Well, it was a CVN of the same class and in this decade so yes.

The Locator
Sep 12, 2004

Out here, everything hurts.





The Door Frame posted:

:confused:


:stonk:

Provided that it happened on an American ship, according to wikipedia, there's a 50% chance that this was on a ship with enough fissile material to run for 20 consecutive years, plus all of the fuel for all of the aircraft; and a 50% chance that it was on a ship with the aforementioned aircraft fuel, plus fuel for its massive gas powered turbines. I don't know which scenario is scarier

The CVN's also carry a huge amount of bunker fuel to refuel their escorts underway. Or at least that's what I was told by a guy who was in the navy on them.

E: Also, 3.5 million gallons of JP-5.

The Locator fucked around with this message at 05:58 on Jul 29, 2016

IPCRESS
May 27, 2012

The Locator posted:

The CVN's also carry a huge amount of bunker fuel to refuel their escorts underway. Or at least that's what I was told by a guy who was in the navy on them.

E: Also, 3.5 million gallons of JP-5.

Hi, I'm a writer for National Geographic TV.

Could you please express this in units that people actually use: jumbo jets, elephants, swimming pools or family sedans?

theres a will theres moe
Jan 10, 2007


Hair Elf

IPCRESS posted:

Hi, I'm a writer for National Geographic TV.

Could you please express this in units that people actually use: jumbo jets, elephants, swimming pools or family sedans?

0.13 Empire State Buildings

Disgruntled Bovine
Jul 5, 2010

Number 1 Sexy Dad posted:

0.13 Empire State Buildings

How many football fields is that?

PhotoKirk
Jul 2, 2007

insert witty text here

Disgruntled Bovine posted:

How many football fields is that?

American or European?

HERAK
Dec 1, 2004

PhotoKirk posted:

American or European?

In the uk we use minis (old car), Wales (mostly for natural disasters), Olympic size swimming pools, and double decker busses. We don't use football (soccer) fields because then size can vary quite a bit.

The Locator
Sep 12, 2004

Out here, everything hurts.





IPCRESS posted:

Hi, I'm a writer for National Geographic TV.

Could you please express this in units that people actually use: jumbo jets, elephants, swimming pools or family sedans?

4.3 parsecs.

MrYenko
Jun 18, 2012

#2 isn't ALWAYS bad...

Nothing good has ever come from the production, storage, transport, or use of liquid O2.

Collateral Damage
Jun 13, 2009

MrYenko posted:

Nothing good has ever come from the production, storage, transport, or use of liquid O2.
NASA disagrees.

joat mon
Oct 15, 2009

I am the master of my lamp;
I am the captain of my tub.

HERAK posted:

In the uk we use minis (old car), Wales (mostly for natural disasters), Olympic size swimming pools, and double decker busses. We don't use football (soccer) fields because then size can vary quite a bit.

54,000 hogsheads

kastein
Aug 31, 2011

Moderator at http://www.ridgelineownersclub.com/forums/and soon to be mod of AI. MAKE AI GREAT AGAIN. Motronic for VP.

MrYenko posted:

Nothing good has ever come from the production, storage, transport, or use of liquid O2.

You say that like fire is a bad thing.

Disgruntled Bovine posted:

Yeah you don't want anything to do with undissolved acetylene above 15 psi.

It does take shock to set it off, though the reaction can be catalyzed by copper so never use copper or brass fittings for gas welding.

Edit: the tanks are also filled with a porous material called agamassan to prevent build-up of dangerous concentrations of acetylene gas as the tank is emptied.

Acetylene tank cut in half:



Honestly the stuff is nasty as hell and I don't know how anyone ever figured out how to use it safely.

Weird, most of the O/A torches and hoses I've used are all brass and rubber. Never seen anything else used...

agamassan, iirc, is also one of the few remaining legal uses of asbestos in this country. I know the original recipe used it but I don't know if the modern one does.

The Door Frame
Dec 5, 2011

I don't know man everytime I go to the gym here there are like two huge dudes with raging high and tights snorting Nitro-tech off of each other's rock hard abs.

PhotoKirk posted:

American or European?

Did he say pitch?

CharlieWhiskey
Aug 18, 2005

everything, all the time

this is the world

The Door Frame posted:

Did he say pitch?

Pitching is in baseball. In cricket, it's called bowling.

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

CharlieWhiskey posted:

Pitching is in baseball. In cricket, it's called bowling.

Yes but in american football it's called a field and everyone else's football calls it a pitch.

kastein
Aug 31, 2011

Moderator at http://www.ridgelineownersclub.com/forums/and soon to be mod of AI. MAKE AI GREAT AGAIN. Motronic for VP.
Look at the ball flying over there now

Along with all of the fucks that I give

Also here's a gas tank out of a TJ Wrangler... guy's exhaust pipe broke off over the rear axle and was blasting exhaust directly at the plastic gas tank. Good thing he noticed when he did.





Mercury Ballistic
Nov 14, 2005

not gun related

The Locator posted:

The CVN's also carry a huge amount of bunker fuel to refuel their escorts underway. Or at least that's what I was told by a guy who was in the navy on them.

E: Also, 3.5 million gallons of JP-5.

The KHK had lots of Diesel for herself, every 5 days she needed to gas up. The CVNs only carry lots of JP5 for the wing.
Source: I'm a former MSC cargo mate on oilers.

Godholio
Aug 28, 2002

Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?

joat mon posted:

54,000 hogsheads

For gently caress's sake, we're using the metric system for a reason.

54 kilohogsheads

IOwnCalculus
Apr 2, 2003





kastein posted:

Look at the ball flying over there now

Along with all of the fucks that I give

Also here's a gas tank out of a TJ Wrangler... guy's exhaust pipe broke off over the rear axle and was blasting exhaust directly at the plastic gas tank. Good thing he noticed when he did.







My old Volvo did that to its rear bumper surround, because a PO had a new exhaust put on that was a bit too short. Was never an issue in-town, but then I drove it up the mountain to Prescott and what amounted to a few minutes of solid WOT to maintain speed cooked it.

A Real Happy Camper
Dec 11, 2007

These children have taught me how to believe.

Collateral Damage posted:

NASA disagrees.

Godholio
Aug 28, 2002

Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?
I believe that was their finest hour, sir. :colbert:

Disgruntled Bovine
Jul 5, 2010

Unrelated, but we've done some work (indirectly) for NASA, and the customer through whom we do that work has a specific quality clause which can be cited on a PO when an item is to be utilized in manned spaceflight.

It basically states that if the vendor executing the purchase order can think of any way to improve the safety, reliability or performance of the part they are manufacturing they are required to pass that information along to NASA. Kind of a weird clause, but I thought it was neat.

MrYenko
Jun 18, 2012

#2 isn't ALWAYS bad...

Do you make o-rings?

charliemonster42
Sep 14, 2005


MrYenko posted:

Do you make o-rings?

:boom:

Also, awkward that the code for that one is "boom"

Disgruntled Bovine
Jul 5, 2010

MrYenko posted:

Do you make o-rings?

Close, washers.

Though that's mostly for automotive. Aerospace we make all kinds of weird parts and usually have no idea what they are.

As far as I know none of them have killed anyone yet.

briefcasefullof
Sep 25, 2004
[This Space for Rent]
My dad drives for a trucking company and tonight the tanks fell off his truck while idling. It only had a couple million miles on it :v:

NoWake
Dec 28, 2008

College Slice

QuarkMartial posted:

My dad drives for a trucking company and tonight the tanks fell off his truck while idling. It only had a couple million miles on it :v:

Are we still talking NASA or..,

kastein
Aug 31, 2011

Moderator at http://www.ridgelineownersclub.com/forums/and soon to be mod of AI. MAKE AI GREAT AGAIN. Motronic for VP.

QuarkMartial posted:

My dad drives for a trucking company and tonight the tanks fell off his truck while idling. It only had a couple million miles on it :v:

Solid rocket booster seperation went smoothly I take it

Seriously though, kinda surprised, I thought people checked that stuff more regularly on semis.

Splizwarf
Jun 15, 2007
It's like there's a soup can in front of me!

Holy fuckin' nope!

On a phone, so it's tiny and at a glance I went "oh drat that got pretty crushed or something, better read the post" and then :vince:

How did he decide to look? Hot plastic smell?

Javid
Oct 21, 2004

:jpmf:

kastein posted:

Solid rocket booster seperation went smoothly I take it

Seriously though, kinda surprised, I thought people checked that stuff more regularly on semis.

Daily inspections are required by federal law, but if you actually take the time to do them expect to be let go for unrelated reasons and coincidentally replaced by somebody willing to just falsify a log and get the truck rolling 30 minutes sooner every morning.

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mischief
Jun 3, 2003

Javid posted:

Daily inspections are required by federal law, but if you actually take the time to do them expect to be let go for unrelated reasons and coincidentally replaced by somebody willing to just falsify a log and get the truck rolling 30 minutes sooner every morning.

If you can't pre-trip in a reasonable amount of time you might be retarded.

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