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Crop insurance is the other part of farmer payout that isn't subsidies or sales. My mother used to be a crop insurance agent. Every farmer has their entire field covered, and if it doesn't turn out right, often times they'll let a particular crop die and not harvest it in order to file the insurance claim. Sometimes it's a matter of "sorghum grew great this year at all the fields, if you actually harvest yours Jim you'll end up losing $1 a bushel because the market is flooded. Just write it off as a loss and insurance will pay $2/bushel for the loss." Sometimes you actually have a fire or something that destroys a crop. My dad fixes tractors, though, and yeah those aren't cheap in the least bit.
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Mad Doctor Cthulhu posted:That's not just the South. There's tons of people in the Midwest who drive very fancy F-350s that are all nice and shiny (complete with a metal lockbox that will never, ever see any tool use) for some kind of imagined status. America has this bizarre fetishization of the pioneer that hasn't been accurate for at least 250 years. This is what happens when you grow up watching TV Westerns and mistake it for reality. Bonus points if they modded it to have stacks coming out of the bed. I mean, I can understand that if they actually do see actual use in the field, directing the exhaust away from the ground is fine and dandy, but usually it's just coal rollers thinking they're hot poo poo.
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iospace posted:Bonus points if they modded it to have stacks coming out of the bed. I mean, I can understand that if they actually do see actual use in the field, directing the exhaust away from the ground is fine and dandy, but usually it's just coal rollers thinking they're hot poo poo. Or lifts. God, the number of times I see short, angry men in lifted trucks. Also flagpoles, because you know the motherfucker will have a confederate flag somewhere on there.
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Mad Doctor Cthulhu posted:Or lifts. God, the number of times I see short, angry men in lifted trucks. One of my regulars at my work got a full sized GMC truck (1500) and he's in his 80s. Unmodded, mind you, but he's definitely not tall by any stretch of the imagination. There's also a guy around here with a huge (or well, "standard size", big for a truck though) US flag attached to a bed flagpole and a couple of those window flags (also US) for good measure. I saw a lifted Wrangler the other day, but it was covered in mud, so I knew it was someone who actually used it for offroad purposes instead of wiping it down with a diaper every five seconds. Iron Crowned posted:I haven't seen truck nuts for a while, so I guess the rubber scrotum is no longer a sign of masculinity these days On the note of tow hitches, I saw the best tow hitch cover a few months ago: "I fish, therefore I lie".
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Iron Crowned posted:I haven't seen truck nuts for a while, so I guess the rubber scrotum is no longer a sign of masculinity these days They're not "truck nuts" anymore, they're "funny hearts" and they're for bike sissies now: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01GZWTZMA/ref=?tag=natdee-20 
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Even at that, of the people I knew that were into truck culture and actually did offroading, they kept 2 trucks around. One was a lovely beater pickup that they would take to do their offroading, and the other was their $60,000 diaper polish baby that they kept around as their status symbol.
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^ I was into the culture a bit back when I had my truck, an '88 GMC 1500 4x4, never lifted it as it already looked mean enough as it sat. But I'd watch those shows on CMT on Sundays to see what kinda poo poo I could do and was always disappointed. "Well, we're gonna install this steering kit into our project truck because it'll do most of the work for us. Such a setup will run you about 6,000 and take a weekend to do, but for your grocery getter, it's really worth it" and shows them using a loving professional mechanic's garage to do it. And yeah, it got a mud bath every Saturday in the summer iospace posted:Bonus points if they modded it to have stacks coming out of the bed. I mean, I can understand that if they actually do see actual use in the field, directing the exhaust away from the ground is fine and dandy, but usually it's just coal rollers thinking they're hot poo poo. Yeah, had a coworker a while back that had one of those super duty diesels lifted and all that poo poo and the exhaust placed just in the right sweet spot so he could roll up next to cars and roll some coal into their windows. He lost that truck after a while. Decided to roll coal on the local unmarked police cruiser. The cops were not the slightest bit amused. Impounded his truck and leveled fines adding up to $3500. Wreckless driving speeding loud exhaust plus a few other fix it tickets. And a few others I can't remember having to do with vehicle height and other poo poo. SocketWrench has issued a correction as of 23:31 on Jul 26, 2016 |
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SocketWrench posted:Yeah, had a coworker a while back that had one of those super duty diesels lifted and all that poo poo and the exhaust placed just in the right sweet spot so he could roll up next to cars and roll some coal into their windows. This makes me very happy. 
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Parallel Paraplegic posted:They're not "truck nuts" anymore, they're "funny hearts" and they're for bike sissies now: You ever get the feeling that there's a culture of mirroring the Other in our current political spectrum? Because I'm seeing it, and I get the feeling that might be just what eventually bridges the divide. Or just shows two sets of assholes. DeathSandwich posted:Even at that, of the people I knew that were into truck culture and actually did offroading, they kept 2 trucks around. One was a lovely beater pickup that they would take to do their offroading, and the other was their $60,000 diaper polish baby that they kept around as their status symbol. That's a bit sad in its own way. I remember when dualies were all the rage until people realized they got poo poo traction in the winter. I happened to see this in person after one snowstorm when my 1993 Olds 88 was having enough trouble staying on the road but the dualie in front of me was swaying into the opposing lane or the ditch when doing 10-15 miles per hour. The stop we had was on a slight incline that was bad in my car but seeing the ten minute struggle of that beast to gain traction in slush and ice was downright horrifying. SocketWrench posted:^ I was into the culture a bit back when I had my truck, an '88 GMC 1500 4x4, never lifted it as it already looked mean enough as it sat. But I'd watch those shows on CMT on Sundays to see what kinda poo poo I could do and was always disappointed. Yeah, a lot of those mods cost a pretty penny and there are definitely cheaper and less safe ways to do it as well. But I think that speaks to the whole of this culture that brings us the Bundys and the 'freedom fighters' and all that poo poo: it's all just phony masculinity that just happens to attract people who will actually kill for it, and it's just so sad. One part of it is the single-issue voting that has eroded any chance for anybody without a college degree to get a job to support themselves on, but that very same part is fueled by that rage against the mysterious Other that takes over their senses. It's almost like American masculinity is such an unobtainable thing that it drives everybody crazy or at least makes it hard for anybody to challenge.
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Mad Doctor Cthulhu posted:Yeah, a lot of those mods cost a pretty penny and there are definitely cheaper and less safe ways to do it as well. But I think that speaks to the whole of this culture that brings us the Bundys and the 'freedom fighters' and all that poo poo: it's all just phony masculinity that just happens to attract people who will actually kill for it, and it's just so sad. One part of it is the single-issue voting that has eroded any chance for anybody without a college degree to get a job to support themselves on, but that very same part is fueled by that rage against the mysterious Other that takes over their senses. It's almost like American masculinity is such an unobtainable thing that it drives everybody crazy or at least makes it hard for anybody to challenge. True, you can see it on all types of poo poo. I invite people to go to TFR and look through the tacticlol thread to see that poo poo. Some stuff is just batshit nuts, but god, someone's penis got hard seeing it
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Parallel Paraplegic posted:They're not "truck nuts" anymore, they're "funny hearts" and they're for bike sissies now: Oh my god, do they dangle?
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StandardVC10 posted:Oh my god, do they dangle? https://media.riffsy.com/videos/c4a9bf7a10dadba5e5fc3eb80b3af4f6/webm
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Parallel Paraplegic posted:I don't know, I lived in upstate New York for two years which is pretty red for a blue state and didn't see half as many giant lifted F-350 King Ranch Editions with ram bars and spotlights as I do here, not that I was particularly looking for them. Probably has something to do with the crushing poverty.
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Volcott posted:Probably has something to do with the crushing poverty. I'm in upstate NY and the only reason you don't see F-350 King Ranches driving around is because everyone has a Dodge
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Mad Doctor Cthulhu posted:You ever get the feeling that there's a culture of mirroring the Other in our current political spectrum? Because I'm seeing it, and I get the feeling that might be just what eventually bridges the divide. Or just shows two sets of assholes. I really believe a lot of the general right wing rage comes from this obsession with a nonsensical idea that it'll somehow make them a "real man." Just look at the usual right wing platform: they obsess over being completely self-sufficient, reject any form of compassion project or understanding complex issues could exist, attack the "Other," rage about "purity," denounce intellectualism, and despise LGBT people for breaking their tradition as if it was the most important of all issues. So much can be traced back to the desire to emulate an ideal that doesn't even make sense.
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StandardVC10 posted:Oh my god, do they dangle? Do They Wobble to and Fro? Can You Tie Them in a Knot? Can You Tie Them in a Bow? Can You Throw Them Over Your Shoulder Like a Continental Soldier? Couldn't resist. for 5 bucks i had to buy a set for the moped just to laugh at SocketWrench has issued a correction as of 15:17 on Jul 27, 2016 |
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SocketWrench posted:Yeah, had a coworker a while back that had one of those super duty diesels lifted and all that poo poo and the exhaust placed just in the right sweet spot so he could roll up next to cars and roll some coal into their windows. Good. I had a guy come in to work with a lifted F-250 Diesel. He said he gets people constantly asking him to roll coal, and his response always is, "If you want me to roll coal, please give me the money for the gas and the eventual repair bills." That shuts them up reaaaaaaal quick. On that note, I worked at a car wash once, lifted truck that just squeeks under our wire for our height limit comes in. Owner whines that his tires are bald. Burns out of the parking lot. Mad Doctor Cthulhu posted:That's a bit sad in its own way. I remember when dualies were all the rage until people realized they got poo poo traction in the winter. I happened to see this in person after one snowstorm when my 1993 Olds 88 was having enough trouble staying on the road but the dualie in front of me was swaying into the opposing lane or the ditch when doing 10-15 miles per hour. The stop we had was on a slight incline that was bad in my car but seeing the ten minute struggle of that beast to gain traction in slush and ice was downright horrifying. Weird that dualies would get worse traction in the winter. More tread on the ground would mean more traction right? Assuming they A. have non-bald tires, and B. at least have all-seasons on it (or better, winter tires). And isn't the first thing you do in winter is buy a bunch of sand bags and toss them in the bed? I digress. quote:Yeah, a lot of those mods cost a pretty penny and there are definitely cheaper and less safe ways to do it as well. But I think that speaks to the whole of this culture that brings us the Bundys and the 'freedom fighters' and all that poo poo: it's all just phony masculinity that just happens to attract people who will actually kill for it, and it's just so sad. One part of it is the single-issue voting that has eroded any chance for anybody without a college degree to get a job to support themselves on, but that very same part is fueled by that rage against the mysterious Other that takes over their senses. It's almost like American masculinity is such an unobtainable thing that it drives everybody crazy or at least makes it hard for anybody to challenge. You know, this makes sense. They think they're sticking it to the man when all they're doing is making themselves look like fools to the masses. Of course, when the masses call them out on it, they always go "YOU'RE BRAINWASHED!" or something like that.
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Yeah, but ya gotta remember, when one wheel breaks loose, that's it. Now you have two sets of treads spinning wild and sucking all the power off the other two. That's why stupid people with 4x4 end up in the ditch in winter. Doesn't matter how many wheels are powered, if one breaks loose and takes all the power from the others, you're goin' for a spin. I used to laugh at those old all wheel drive commercials for like Subaru and poo poo where the guy's gliding on ice regretting not buying "The all wheel drive Subaru Deluxe!" On ice it doesn't matter, you're gonna slide
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SocketWrench posted:Yeah, but ya gotta remember, when one wheel breaks loose, that's it. Now you have two sets of treads spinning wild and sucking all the power off the other two. Fair enough. I usually say, "AWD is only useful when you're accelerating." It doesn't contribute to grip or anything, which is why I also say, "Buy winter tires in the winter, if you can afford them." I run all-seasons, but I can't afford a second set of wheels or tires right now. It works out well enough for me. Then again, I don't drive like a freaking idiot in the snow. Anyway, how many of the idiots up in Oregon have pleaded guilty now?
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Here's some tweets to sate your sovcit thirsts https://twitter.com/maxoregonian/status/758083962707120128 https://twitter.com/maxoregonian/status/757982790361108481
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ansel autisms posted:Here's some tweets to sate your sovcit thirsts He gave the judge 72 whole hours to respond; how generous of him.
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Some more fun times! Kansas mom whose kids sang at Oregon standoff loses custody[/quote] quote:... The whole article is worth a read at the source. Man rejects court's authority citing unofficial flag This one's a video, and is fantastic. There's an interview with the judge, a sovict guru, and an arrest video by the defendant! Sovereign citizen arrested again, one week after guilty conviction This one's just fun.
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Some Miserable Person posted:“I think crying wolf, crying abuse, was their way out,” she said about her kids. Really? You're going to say that about your own children? This shows an alarming disconnect this women has with her ten kids. Edit: Even if it's true that they're saying something to get out, that still sets a precedence that somethings wrong if they're looking to flee their home. It's not something you do for kicks, you're a horrible person and you should really look deep down in yourself and realize how far you are from being a decent human being or a "Christian". well HECK Phil has issued a correction as of 19:56 on Jul 28, 2016 |
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Discendo Vox posted:Some more fun times! Hah! Of course if she calls on the idiot militia to liberate her kids from the syate things could go bad.
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Gordito posted:Really? You're going to say that about your own children? This shows an alarming disconnect this women has with her ten kids. Deep introspection is not the hallmark of the SovCit. Why should I change when I can file paperwork with magic words to make the world change around me? To wit: Casimir Radon posted:Hah! Of course if she calls on the idiot militia to liberate her kids from the syate things could go bad.
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iospace posted:Weird that dualies would get worse traction in the winter. More tread on the ground would mean more traction right? Assuming they A. have non-bald tires, and B. at least have all-seasons on it (or better, winter tires). And isn't the first thing you do in winter is buy a bunch of sand bags and toss them in the bed? I digress. Not weird at all: part of traction is weight, so the more weight you have on those tires pressing down helps increase traction. But with trucks the bed is the lightest part, making traction difficult. And when you have dualies which spread out the weight over two tires, you make a truck that has lovely traction have NO traction at all. They could probably get around it by putting something heavy in the bed but that works for RWD trucks with one set of tires, not two. It's just a poor vehicle in the winter when you're not hauling something heavy. prefect posted:He gave the judge 72 whole hours to respond; how generous of him. At this point he's just looking for anything to declare a mistrial so he can -- in his mind -- get out on bail. Because the best thing to do in this situation is to annoy the judge. Gordito posted:Really? You're going to say that about your own children? This shows an alarming disconnect this women has with her ten kids. Nothing is used more often to excuse the inexcusable than religion, and it never dulls in its horror.
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Discendo Vox posted:Some more fun times! The whole article is worth a read at the source. Man rejects court's authority citing unofficial flag This one's a video, and is fantastic. There's an interview with the judge, a sovict guru, and an arrest video by the defendant! Sovereign citizen arrested again, one week after guilty conviction This one's just fun. [/quote] Okay, so this woman has officially topped my list of human scum involved in this idiocy. A high "honor." Those kids are gonna need decades to recover from living with that tyrant.
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Volcott posted:Wait, is washing your kids mouth out with soap considered child abuse these days? I think putting caustic chemicals into a child's mouth is never really a good thing, but I really think pumping a kids mouth full of liquid soap is a bit beyond the ole bar in the mouth for cussing.
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Liquid soap, though. That's strange. You use bar soap. You can't accidentally swallow that. I say this as a soap-ee, not a soap-er. I don't have kids. Volcott has issued a correction as of 21:59 on Jul 28, 2016 |
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Volcott posted:Wait, is washing your kids mouth out with soap considered child abuse these days? It has in California since I've been a mandatory reporter, so the last 10+ years? I'm getting old. It's also report mandating in New York, District of Columbia, but I'm not sure for how long.
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