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PotatoManJack posted:I've heard some commentators talking of multiple splits in the major parties, and landing somewhere closer to what exists in Canada/Australia/Europe with still 2 major parties, but with 4-5 prominent parties that also factor into the decision making. This already happened in 2010. Except the electoral math meant that the Tea Party was an internal faction of the GOP instead of its own party, infected them with crazy/brought the latent crazy out, and now we have Trump.
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oystertoadfish posted:so the first poll sampling entirely from dnc days is rasmussen and they came up with clinton +1 after a month and a half of trump leads. wonder if the other polls will follow - the rnc bump evidence is pretty splotchy, different polls had very different magnitudes Absolutely watch the Khan speech, but don't do it before you have to do anything important, especially if you have kids.
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Slate Action posted:Let's check in with The Persuader I think I'm the only person on this forum that finds Dilbert unironically funny (and just to prove my comedy credentials after saying that, I think Mr. Show and Arrested Development are two of the finest things made by humanity ever). It's a decent satire of corporate nonsense, and it works for the format that it is. Judging solely by his material, I would never have expected Scott Adams to be this crazy (although there were definite hints of the crazy going back to the 1990s when the animated series made a pro-creationism episode). Why is he this crazy? I mean, his work is focused almost entirely on making fun of blustery corporate "big shots" like Trump. How did he get to this point?
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Epic High Five posted:Trump, in 6 hours: "I tell you folks it was insane. Crazy! They had this one guy, he called me a bad American. And do you know why? Because I didn't sacrifice anybody. Human sacrifice! I tell you this is why we can't let these people in. It was so obscene networks wouldn't even play it!" haha, but seriously yeah that was an incredible, powerful speech, one of the best. It's been posted in other threads, but ann coulter is the absolute worst https://twitter.com/AnnCoulter/status/758834407931203584
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Al! posted:not a step is a whadda ya call it, identity politics hater i think. you know one of those guys who won't admit that race permeates every moment of us political history Nah. I hate people who don't have empathy for others or take time to understand their point of view, even if they virulently disagree with it. Lots of people prefer petty vengeance to progress and understanding of others. They want that eye for an eye. I get the most angry at people who think its cool and good to write off entire demographics because of grievances rather than try to work out how to reach out to everyone. Sure not everyone can be reached, but just going 'gently caress em all' puts you in the same group as the people you despise. E: For the first few months of the primary I was channeling an insane person I knew through facebook and then after that I just enjoyed poo poo posting, so 
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Not a Step posted:Nah. I hate people who don't have empathy for others or take time to understand their point of view, even if they virulently disagree with it. Lots of people prefer petty vengeance to progress and understanding of others. They want that eye for an eye. I get the most angry at people who think its cool and good to write off entire demographics because of grievances rather than try to work out how to reach out to everyone. Sure not everyone can be reached, but just going 'gently caress em all' puts you in the same group as the people you despise. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W10F0ezCTIQ
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i have empathy. the best empathy. and i got people with the best empathy too. so much empathy, youll be sick of it.
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thethreeman posted:haha, but seriously yeah that was an incredible, powerful speech, one of the best. It's been posted in other threads, but ann coulter is the absolute worst https://twitter.com/AnnCoulter/status/758834407931203584 You know, I watched a 'debatw' between her and one of the not so young turks, and I have to say I came out of it fairly certain that she is doing a bit. I have a friend who says read offensive poo poo to get a rise out of people, and when Ann Coulter calls for women to lose the right to vote or for the US to turn the middle east to glass I just sort of ruefully shake my head knowing it's half for the money and half because she just likes being paid to be an rear end in a top hat. Then I remember people sometimes take her seriously, and I get very sad.
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Anyone else getting promoted Trump tweets? Hilariously sad and I can click the x to shut him up, win-win.
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The "Ann Coulter is a performance artist/professional troll" theory has been around for as long as I remember.
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the paradigm shift posted:Anyone else getting promoted Trump tweets? Hilariously sad and I can click the x to shut him up, win-win. Interacting with those costs the campaign extra, I believe.
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MaxNV posted:Hillary should just ask: "Donald, how does a bill become law?" Won't work. "Well Hillary, do you mean all the laws you've broken?"
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ann coulter isnt even shocking anymore. she made her bones being the person unafraid to say what furious suburban dads were all thinking, but these days they have facebook for that. nowadays they have a whole presidential campaign for that. anns desperately clinging to relevance because she knows that inside of three years she might actually have to start sending out resumes, and at a glance hers consists of "called john edwards a human being once" cant wait for her to plunge into the same dark hole as michelle malkin and disappear, personally
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Antti posted:The "Ann Coulter is a performance artist/professional troll" theory has been around for as long as I remember. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1seThIG34R8 I always enjoy this little segment.
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Nichael posted:I think I'm the only person on this forum that finds Dilbert unironically funny (and just to prove my comedy credentials after saying that, I think Mr. Show and Arrested Development are two of the finest things made by humanity ever). It's a decent satire of corporate nonsense, and it works for the format that it is. Judging solely by his material, I would never have expected Scott Adams to be this crazy (although there were definite hints of the crazy going back to the 1990s when the animated series made a pro-creationism episode). Why is he this crazy? I mean, his work is focused almost entirely on making fun of blustery corporate "big shots" like Trump. How did he get to this point? to prove my posting credentials I think your post if garbage
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Not a Step posted:Nah. I hate people who don't have empathy for others or take time to understand their point of view, even if they virulently disagree with it. Lots of people prefer petty vengeance to progress and understanding of others. They want that eye for an eye. I get the most angry at people who think its cool and good to write off entire demographics because of grievances rather than try to work out how to reach out to everyone. Sure not everyone can be reached, but just going 'gently caress em all' puts you in the same group as the people you despise. You know I did not know that. Good to know! Things are starting to make more sense now.
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Chrpno posted:Won't work. I don't think that would work so well to be honest, and anyway it would be the moderator asking it not Hillary
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Nichael posted:I think I'm the only person on this forum that finds Dilbert unironically funny (and just to prove my comedy credentials after saying that, I think Mr. Show and Arrested Development are two of the finest things made by humanity ever). It's a decent satire of corporate nonsense, and it works for the format that it is. Judging solely by his material, I would never have expected Scott Adams to be this crazy (although there were definite hints of the crazy going back to the 1990s when the animated series made a pro-creationism episode). Why is he this crazy? I mean, his work is focused almost entirely on making fun of blustery corporate "big shots" like Trump. How did he get to this point? Scott Adams is a singularly weird fellow. He's a talented comedy writer -- when he isn't phoning it in, he can be side-splittingly funny. (Unfortunately these days he phones it in the huge majority of the time.) And he's obviously pretty bright. But he has some seriously odd notions about how the universe works, and particularly about the power of positive thinking. As far as I'm aware, he first started letting these slip in the last few chapters of The Dilbert Future, which according to wiki was published in 1997. By that point, Dilbert was already a mega-success, so he may have finally felt comfortable starting to fly his freak flag. I'm always very reluctant to bullshit-psychoanalyze people, so I won't try. I'll just say that he really REALLY seems to think that the one course(!) he took in hypnosis way back when has taught him everything there is to know about how people think. And rightly or wrongly, he sees in Trump someone who has figured out the same things about human nature and is using them for political gain. I guess I qualify as something of a Scott Adams fan, since I enjoy both Dilbert and his non-Dilbert books. Even though I certainly don't always agree with them, and they often make me think "WOW, what a weird guy".
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poor ann coulter! redundancied out in favor of some twerp named milo! sad!
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paranoid randroid posted:ann coulter isnt even shocking anymore. she made her bones being the person unafraid to say what furious suburban dads were all thinking, but these days they have facebook for that. nowadays they have a whole presidential campaign for that. anns desperately clinging to relevance because she knows that inside of three years she might actually have to start sending out resumes, and at a glance hers consists of "called john edwards a human being once" She's been flailing a lot lately. It kind of reminds me of whenever someone corners zoux on race.
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Caros posted:You know, I watched a 'debatw' between her and one of the not so young turks, and I have to say I came out of it fairly certain that she is doing a bit. The show business aspect is inseparable from it, though. I'd put it like this... Imagine yourself in the position of someone who goes on T.V. to talk about politics. You're in makeup, and the host is also putting on a performance -- and if you've never actually been in that situation it can be kind of jarring, since it's not a normal conversation between people. It's "On the air in 5...4...3...2...1 ACTION!" type thing, and then the person who you WERE talking to like a normal person flips a mental switch and becomes the "host" character and starts prodding you with questions designed to provoke a response that's good for television, or radio, or whichever format you're on. It's like a bunch of cartoon characters yapping at each other. And in that format you'll be rewarded for pushing boundaries, yelling and riling people up. It's an artificially-created environment, although it's not entirely made-up or false, either. BrutalistMcDonalds fucked around with this message at 08:36 on Jul 29, 2016 |
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Baloogan posted:because goddamn i want to watch trump be president Can we Truman Show Trump into thinking he won, and just watch him deal with made up crises for 4 years?
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Dilbert is funny in that it pokes fun at the dumbass middle management type everyone hates. The flipside of that is fairly frequent ubermensch-ing of IT people. Not the security audit guys, not the department planners who you can suck up to for the new company-issue laptop, but the chucklefuck types they send out to replace your loving keyboard. In dilbertworld those are the smartest guys in the building.
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The Glumslinger posted:Can we Truman Show Trump into thinking he won, and just watch him deal with made up crises for 4 years? Yes.  approves this message.
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FAUXTON posted:Boosted hasn't posted in like 3 hours lol Gonna have to wait till it's morning in America.
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Trump, Trump Trump you've gone too far Trump you've gone too far and you should hang your head in shame For these wounds I cannot stay, you've gone too far You've broke my heart, you've gone too far
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Powered Descent posted:Scott Adams is a singularly weird fellow. He's a talented comedy writer -- when he isn't phoning it in, he can be side-splittingly funny. (Unfortunately these days he phones it in the huge majority of the time.) And he's obviously pretty bright. But he has some seriously odd notions about how the universe works, and particularly about the power of positive thinking. As far as I'm aware, he first started letting these slip in the last few chapters of The Dilbert Future, which according to wiki was published in 1997. By that point, Dilbert was already a mega-success, so he may have finally felt comfortable starting to fly his freak flag. He's one of those "The Secret" people, isn't he? If you think it, it'll happen? He has a real proclivity towards the pseudo-mystical which seems at odds with his education and upbringing, but then again, I guess anyone can fall for that poo poo. I don't actually think he's completely wrong in regard to Trump-ian "persuasion". I often hypothesized in the previous few GOP primaries that if you went full bigot man-baby, you'd do pretty well, and it turns out I was right as Trump has certainly garnered a ton of support. It's just Adams clearly has a huge blindspot for the non-GOP primary voter part of the population, which seems to be made even bigger by his weird misogynistic tendencies. Again though, I kind of think that's at odds with the work he puts out as one of the major characters in Dilbert is a female engineer just as competent as the rest of the cast. Third World Reggin posted:to prove my posting credentials I think your post if garbage Gosh, I think the same about your post. We're twins! FAUXTON posted:Dilbert is funny in that it pokes fun at the dumbass middle management type everyone hates. The flipside of that is fairly frequent ubermensch-ing of IT people. Not the security audit guys, not the department planners who you can suck up to for the new company-issue laptop, but the chucklefuck types they send out to replace your loving keyboard. In dilbertworld those are the smartest guys in the building. Trump seems like a cartoon caricature of an out of touch manager though. It's funny that Adams doesn't see that. Nichael fucked around with this message at 08:47 on Jul 29, 2016 |
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that recent russia thing i think was the thing that broke me finally.... gently caress RUSSIA gently caress COMMUNISM too you loving communst homeweokr explainer gently caress you communism is the biggest threat to humanity, the biggest scourge of the 20th century thank god we can point and laugh at your futile poo poo doctrine homework expolaier, because it was deadly serious decades ago
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Princess Di posted:Yes. Critics say the show peaked in season 3 when he had to deal with a horde of Godzillas rampaging through the pacific northwest, but I thought it got tired after the Alien invasion in season 2
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Wikkheiser posted:It's a mix of both. She does believe a lot of stuff she says, but she also amplifies it for the show business side of it. Also, when Ann Coulter blew up in the late 1990s, America hadn't really seen a bleached-blonde, feisty right-wing pundit on T.V. before. The format was still mostly dominated by Bob Novak types who'd been practically doing it since Nixon was president. So Coulter was fresh, good-looking, provocative and quickly pioneered a new style. Is Ann Coulter's style the reason why all conservative female pundits on CNN and Fox News are virtually identical?
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Baloogan posted:that recent russia thing i think was the thing that broke me finally....
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Nichael posted:Is Ann Coulter's style the reason why all conservative female pundits on CNN and Fox News are virtually identical?
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Nichael posted:Is Ann Coulter's style the reason why all conservative female pundits on CNN and Fox News are virtually identical? no i think thats down to roger ailes being a sex molester who likes blondes
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paranoid randroid posted:roger ailes has a panic room, either in fox news headquarters or in his home, i cant recall which, in case radical homosexual terrorists attempt to assassinate him. Work. His office was on the second floor and he insisted on replacing the windows with "bomb-proof glass" which is not a thing that exists so they replaced with thick bulletproof glass.
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Wikkheiser posted:You're like ... Bester from B5 I think. Earthgov is the GOP and Clark is Trump ... and you flipped sides after Clark turned against the Psi Corps and started working with the Centauris (Russia) who are also under Shadow influence... im not clever enough to be bester, im sheridan and im gonna blow yall to hell
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Rocks posted:lmao at baloogan becoming a Hillary supporter Kind of sad. Trump supporters are an endangered species in this thread.
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Vile posted:counterpoint: The woman: Boosted. The baby: Us. Trump: Trump.
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Nichael posted:Kind of sad. Trump supporters are an endangered species in this thread. gently caress em
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