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All I'm saying is this wouldn't have happened if people hadn't stopped brutally owning him constantly.
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Übrigens mal aus rein fachlichem Interesse, auf welcher Rechtsgrundlage kriegt der Sohn von iranischen Asylbewerbern die deutsche Staatsbürgerschaft? IIRC gibt es die Staatsbürgerschaft für Kinder ausländischer Eltern bei inländischer Geburt und 8-jährigem Aufenthalt der Eltern doch erst ein paar Jahre, oder wirkt das zurück? Ich meine mich dunkel erinnern zu können, dass irgendjemand hier was mit Ausländerrecht zu tun hat und das sicherlich aus dem Ärmel schütteln kann.
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Vater ist Deutsch soweit ich weiss. Das Gesetz is von 2000 und gilt nicht rückwirklich iirc.
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Jul 27, 2016 19:38
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If you are born in Germany and live here until 18 are you not automatically qualified to be German citizen?
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elbkaida posted:If you are born in Germany and live here until 18 are you not automatically qualified to be German citizen? No. Only if one of your parents already lived in Germany for 8 years and had a permanent residency permit.
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poty posted:Hitler was born on 4/20???? that guy turned every inconspicuous cultural landmark into something terrifying, what an rear end in a top hat !
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will angela Merkel be reelected if AfD has anyrhing to say about it.?
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LeoMarr posted:will angela Merkel be reelected if AfD has anyrhing to say about it.? Merkel will set the entire country aflame and salt the Earth before she goes into coalition with the AfD. Expect a Government of National Unity before anyone even thinks about letting the AfD anywhere near the government.
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ArchangeI posted:Merkel will set the entire country aflame and salt the Earth before she goes into coalition with the AfD. Expect a Government of National Unity before anyone even thinks about letting the AfD anywhere near the government. Because the ~10% of votes that the AfD is going to get will totally make an "National Unity" government against them necessary.
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GaussianCopula posted:Because the ~10% of votes that the AfD is going to get will totally make an "National Unity" government against them necessary. The way this is going, it will be more like the AfD and its three splinter parties and all four parties combined could theoretically form a block to get about 9-10% of the vote.
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I went to look up the current numbers for the AfD and had a lol when i saw that the GroKo is at 53% according to one poll. Eagerly awaiting that Größte Koalition aller Zeiten.
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Grim Up North posted:I went to look up the current numbers for the AfD and had a lol when i saw that the GroKo is at 53% according to one poll. Eagerly awaiting that Größte Koalition aller Zeiten. Well, the SPD is no longer a Volkspartei, so there is that.
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poty posted:Hitler was born on 4/20???? dank weed can lead to hitlers
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Merhaba, ist Österreich der bessere Deutschland? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBx_NCE4WVA
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GaussianCopula posted:Given that he lived in a very multicultural area, what are the chances that he was not bullied because he was an "Ausländer" but instead was bullied by children with migration background and turned to Nazism as reaction to that? az posted:"How can I turn this thing to make foreigners responsible for it. " quote:David Sonboly, der am Freitag in München neun Menschen erschoss, handelte möglicherweise aus Fremdenhass. Ein 17-Jähriger, der mit Sonboly befreundet war, berichtete dem SPIEGEL, David Sonboly habe einen "Riesenhass auf die meisten Ausländer" entwickelt, weil ihn ein paar Jungs in der Schule "richtig zerpflückt" hätten. Something being posted by Gaussian Copula doesn't automatically invalidate it as an argument. If Godwin was a rule in D&D, GC would be uncontested winner of every single thread he participates in. 
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If you're blind enough to consider GC's cherry picking bullshit artistry as an attempt at actual honest debate then I got some bridges to sell you. And trying to pin right extremist violence on the same group of people that make up the victims is despicable garbage, shame on you and your poo poo ideas of what constitutes an argument and willful ignorance of the implications and motivations behind them. PS: Maybe there's a reason that most of his posts are one inch removed from Godwin territory, but I am sure it's not his fault but the darn liberals that misrepresent them 
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goethe42 posted:Something being posted by Gaussian Copula doesn't automatically invalidate it as an argument. No I'm pretty sure "maybe the Ausländer made him become a Hitler-worshipping mass-murderer" invalidates itself.
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az posted:rückwirklich Hihi
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botany posted:No I'm pretty sure "maybe the Ausländer made him become a Hitler-worshipping mass-murderer" invalidates itself. Except when that is what literally happened?
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Why don't you tell us what conclusions you would draw from it instead of making coy implications?
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Between the brown kid insisting on being Aryan, Turks beating him up over it, murder and a Bavarian prole throwing a beer bottle this should make a pretty decent tragicomical movie that gets played on ARTE sometime mid-afternoon.
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Die Staatsansaltschaft München posted:Eine rechtsextreme Motivation für die Morde könne nach derzeitiger Erkenntnislage nicht bestätigt werden [...] [Bei dem "Manifest" des Täters handelt es sich] um eine weitestgehend ungeordnete Aneinanderreihung von Gedanken, die maßgeblich um die schulische und familiäre Situation des Täters sowie um seine Erkrankung kreisten. Wir können darin momentan nicht eindeutig eine rechte Gesinnung erkennen. Schaut so aus als ob hier weniger ein "echter" Rechtsradikalismus als politische Überzeugung vorliegt, sei's wegen Mobbing durch seine Mitschüler oder nicht, sondern dass er eher einfach generell "ned ganz do" war, wie man bei uns sagt. e: Default Settings posted:Between the brown kid insisting on being Aryan, Turks beating him up over it, murder and a Bavarian prole throwing a beer bottle this should make a pretty decent tragicomical movie that gets played on ARTE sometime mid-afternoon. 
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The assumption that the thing that made cargo cult nazism appealing to the dude was that it let him feel that indeed it was him who was superior to the guys bullying him, namely on racial grounds, does not seem far fetched at all. In fact it seems positively banal.
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aphid_licker posted:The assumption that the thing that made cargo cult nazism appealing to the dude was that it let him feel that indeed it was him who was superior to the guys bullying him, namely on racial grounds, does not seem far fetched at all. In fact it seems positively banal. at least to anybody who's been bullied in their formative years
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aphid_licker posted:The assumption that the thing that made cargo cult nazism appealing to the dude was that it let him feel that indeed it was him who was superior to the guys bullying him, namely on racial grounds, does not seem far fetched at all. In fact it seems positively banal. I met a nice Iranian, Batman, during my time in the Evangelische Wohnheim. He could open beer bottles with his eye brow and was a real metal head. But even though he was a chill guy who would copy me (I'm old, sue me!) CDs, I felt uncomfortable as he was into Norwegian Nazi Metal, especially Burzum and Marduk. The Aryan stuff seems to strike a chord with many Persians. Still, nice guy. Einbauschrank fucked around with this message at 09:00 on Jul 29, 2016 |
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Marduk are Swedish, like all bad black metal bands
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aphid_licker posted:The assumption that the thing that made cargo cult nazism appealing to the dude was that it let him feel that indeed it was him who was superior to the guys bullying him, namely on racial grounds, does not seem far fetched at all. In fact it seems positively banal. The important bit is making the distinction between attempting to understand the perpetrators pathology and psychology and trying to play pin the donkey with the implications. ephex posted:Hihi Damnit, I blame my coworker who keeps using that word 
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Smirr posted:Marduk are Swedish, like all bad black metal bands That implies that there is such a thing as good black metal bands  
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The only purpose of black metal and pagan metal bands is to entertain fans of non-garbage metal-subcultures. Except the grindcore subculture, which doesn't need any more entertainment, and is having entirely too much fun all by itself.
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Metal is good just like anime.
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Lucy Heartfilia posted:Metal is good just like anime.
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My favorite thing about Metal is that it doesn't sexualize teenagers, and its most ridiculous plot line is Manowar.
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az posted:Damnit, I blame my coworker who keeps using that word I have a friend who uses the word "zumindestens" and I want to punch and kick him
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Duzzy Funlop posted:My favorite thing about Metal is that it doesn't sexualize teenagers, Pretty sure the record labels sexualized LaFee pretty strongly, actually.
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In other news: Austrians now legally allowed to call presidential candidate Norbert Hofer (FPÖ) a Nazi. Salzburger Nachrichten: Tiroler SPÖ-Chef im Prozess um "Nazi"-Sager freigesprochen
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Randler posted:Pretty sure the record labels sexualized LaFee pretty strongly, actually. Ah yes, renowned metal-representative LaFee
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*googles LeFee* Also the real intersection of Metal and Anime is Babymetal. smdh
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Duzzy Funlop posted:My favorite thing about Metal is that it doesn't sexualize teenagers
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Randler posted:Pretty sure the record labels sexualized LaFee pretty strongly, actually.
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az posted:The important bit is making the distinction between attempting to understand the perpetrators pathology and psychology and trying to play pin the donkey with the implications. Serious question tho, how does this work ethically? If he had killed himself and you polled a cohort of Otto Normalverbrauchers you'd probably get a decent share of people saying that his killing himself was the bullies' fault. In this case, polling the same Otto Normalverbrauchers, what's the result? Probably less. But the bullies' action was the same, the only difference is the outcome, which the bullies had no way of knowing what it would be. His murders did not actually help against the bullying, so they're less directly a result of the bullies' actions? That makes sense. Ok nevermind, I figured it out.
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