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Stephanie is one of my favorite characters but I would gladly Looper her out of ever being Robin if we could get rid of War Games in the process. I don't think anybody could make a good argument for her as the best Robin when her being Robin is so inextricably tied to one of the worst Batman stories ever printed.
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Travis343 posted:Honestly reading his Detective stuff, how great he is with every distinct character in the Batfam, and knowing how much DT hates him makes me think he's the only writer who might make me give a poo poo about Jason. I kinda want to read his red hood issues now! Who wrote B&R: Eternal? Jason was pretty decent in that.
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Jul 31, 2016 03:06
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Travis343 posted:Stephanie is one of my favorite characters but I would gladly Looper her out of ever being Robin if we could get rid of War Games in the process. I have not read or seen much of War Games. What was bad about it out of curiosity. (Though I hear a lot of the most hated things in it are actually the fault of it's follow up War Crimes.)
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Jul 31, 2016 03:09
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JoshTheStampede posted:Who wrote B&R: Eternal? Jason was pretty decent in that. Per wiki quote:written by Scott Snyder, James Tynion IV, Ray Fawkes, Kyle Higgins and Tim Seeley so it is a triple rape genocide.
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Jul 31, 2016 03:22
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Travis343 posted:Stephanie is one of my favorite characters but I would gladly Looper her out of ever being Robin if we could get rid of War Games in the process. Yeah, Stephanie as the best Batgirl is a much more serious argument than her as Robin.
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Jul 31, 2016 03:37
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Cassandra's my favorite Batgirl. I was mostly joking about Stephanie being the best Robin in any way. I like her best as Spoiler more than anything.
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Jul 31, 2016 03:39
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Roth posted:Cassandra's my favorite Batgirl. Cassandra's my favorite too. I just want Stephanie around, I don't really care what mask she's wearing.
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Jul 31, 2016 03:48
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 Stephanie is great. Period. Bryan Q. Miller even redeemed Wendy after Wonderdog crippled her and ate her brother. And then The New 52 happened and she got sidelined so that Barbara could mysteriously walk again and Tim got shunted off and ignored and no I'm not even a little bit bitter about the whole disgusting mess what are you talking about stop putting words in my mouth.
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Jul 31, 2016 03:49
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Cass is the best, but Cass and Steph together is the GOAT. My only complaint about Detective is that there hasn't been nearly enough Cass and Steph friendship-ness so far. I don't care about re-establishing Tim and Steph's romance at all, just give me back Cass and Steph being awesome best friends.
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Jul 31, 2016 03:52
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Inkspot posted:-snip- Even though I'm not a big Damian fan, I'm really glad he's taking over Teen Titans from Tim, because Tim has been awful in that series since the New 52 began. Detective Comics is his best portrayal in a long time. Darth Nat posted:Cass is the best, but Cass and Steph together is the GOAT.  They are pretty fantastic together. I kind of ship it
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Jul 31, 2016 03:54
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Darth Nat posted:Cass is the best, but Cass and Steph together is the GOAT. GOAT? I go with Steph as my favourite Batgirl, but I would never belittle someone for choosing Cass either. And they are a great pair, is Detective Comics holding up? I can't wait for that to hit trades.
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Jul 31, 2016 04:10
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catlord posted:GOAT? I go with Steph as my favourite Batgirl, but I would never belittle someone for choosing Cass either. And they are a great pair, is Detective Comics holding up? I can't wait for that to hit trades. Yeah it's probably the best of the Rebirth books so far.
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Jul 31, 2016 04:13
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JoshTheStampede posted:Yeah it's probably the best of the Rebirth books so far. Detective and Superman are miles ahead of the pack. Tec is my favorite just because I'm such a huge nerd for Kate, Cass, Steph and Tim but Superman is real real good.
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Jul 31, 2016 04:15
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catlord posted:GOAT? I go with Steph as my favourite Batgirl, but I would never belittle someone for choosing Cass either. And they are a great pair, is Detective Comics holding up? I can't wait for that to hit trades. It's easily the best book focusing on Batman characters. Edit - Nobody can deny that Cassandra had the right idea as Batgirl  Roth fucked around with this message at 04:29 on Jul 31, 2016 |
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Jul 31, 2016 04:17
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JoshTheStampede posted:Yeah it's probably the best of the Rebirth books so far. Excellent. It's double shipping, right? Does that mean we only have to wait like, four months for a trade instead of seven (well, bit more than that, paperback comes out a bit later than hardback) or whatever? Roth posted:It's easily the best book focusing on Batman characters. I'm so glad they're reprinting her series. Need to grab the second volume next time I'm at the comic shop.
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Jul 31, 2016 05:11
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Is the latest Suicide Squad run any good? I read it at the beginning of the New 52 and I really disliked but I'm interested in giving it another shot. Also, is Amanda Waller still a skinny woman or did they go back to the classic look?
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Jul 31, 2016 18:29
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radlum posted:Is the latest Suicide Squad run any good? I read it at the beginning of the New 52 and I really disliked but I'm interested in giving it another shot. Also, is Amanda Waller still a skinny woman or did they go back to the classic look? They gradually made her fat again and explained it by having her stress-eat to deal with the anxiety of running the Suicide Squad.
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Jul 31, 2016 19:33
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JoshTheStampede posted:They gradually made her fat again and explained it by having her stress-eat to deal with the anxiety of running the Suicide Squad. Ahaha, seriously? I said that thinking it was a joke I made up.
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Jul 31, 2016 19:34
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WickedHate posted:Ahaha, seriously? I said that thinking it was a joke I made up. No I also was kidding.
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Jul 31, 2016 19:41
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No they didn't. She magically got big in the April Fools special that was a prelude to the Rebirth series, and then back to skinny for the issues of New Suicide Squad. There's no transition. I really liked Tim Seeley's run on NSS, and especially the Juan Ferreyra art.  I was bummed to see the last issue go back to Sean Ryan. Didn't know that till I bought it. e: JoshTheStampede posted:No I also was kidding. Oop. Teenage Fansub fucked around with this message at 19:54 on Jul 31, 2016 |
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Jul 31, 2016 19:44
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JoshTheStampede posted:No I also was kidding. In that case you're a drat dirty joke thief. 
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Jul 31, 2016 19:46
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Original Joke; Do Not Steal.
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Jul 31, 2016 20:04
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That page is nearly incomprehensible to me.
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Jul 31, 2016 20:17
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SonicRulez posted:That page is nearly incomprehensible to me. Do we need to translate it into upvotes, retweets, or anime gifs?
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Jul 31, 2016 20:47
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Mr Hootington posted:Do we need to translate it into upvotes, retweets, or anime gifs? Anything that isn't terrible would be fine.
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SonicRulez posted:Anything that isn't terrible would be fine. Lol what a dweeb
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Inkspot posted:Bryan Q. Miller even redeemed Wendy after Wonderdog crippled her and ate her brother. Requesting clarification on this, because what
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Jul 31, 2016 22:36
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During one of the many, many, many ill-conceived Teen Titans storylines, Wonder Dog turned into a huge hell hound because of reasons (something related to Ares? I really don't remember) and ate Wendy's brother and crippled her. This was considered about par for the course for Titans.
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Jul 31, 2016 22:44
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Reminder that it was around that time that superstar OC THE FACE also asked Miss Martian if she could turn into a giant cooze and eat her out. Teen Titans Go!
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Jul 31, 2016 23:24
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It was the dark ages of the 2003 series, where around the same time they had a cover loudly proclaim "IN THIS ISSUE, ANOTHER TITAN DIES" Though, to be fair, that character's death was at least done well, but it still paints a pretty clear picture at how much of a low point the series was at. At least, it was improving with the last 12 or so issues somewhat, before going way downhill again with the New 52 when Scott Lobdell took over.
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Jul 31, 2016 23:27
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Yeah that layout is really bad. The top of the page draws the eye across to the right side but you're actually supposed to go back to the left page and read panels simultaneously I guess? Then it does a weird L thing to draw your eye up then back down. At best it's unclear and I've seen similar things done way better.
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FilthyImp posted:Reminder that it was around that time that superstar OC THE FACE also asked Miss Martian if she could turn into a giant cooze and eat her out. Who wrote that? I'd like a name to go with the sorrow. Endless Mike posted:Yeah that layout is really bad. The top of the page draws the eye across to the right side but you're actually supposed to go back to the left page and read panels simultaneously I guess? Then it does a weird L thing to draw your eye up then back down. At best it's unclear and I've seen similar things done way better. Thank you, I thought I was crazy. Or a dweeb I guess.
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SonicRulez posted:Who wrote that? I'd like a name to go with the sorrow. Sean McKeever, I think.
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ZDar Fan posted:Requesting clarification on this, because what Pretty much what was said above. Later, Barbara set Wendy up as "Proxy" so Steph could still have someone in her ear while Babs went off to play Oracle for all the other Bats. Then they cancelled the book and Miller wrote the Smallville s11 comics that most people don't know (or care) ever even existed. Endless Mike posted:Yeah that layout is really bad. Is it wrong to show someone getting shot before showing the gun that they were shot with actually being fired? Weird.
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Wheat Loaf posted:Sean McKeever, I think. If it's a bad story involving a teen hero, this is a pretty good guess.
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I don't think it's that hard to follow when there's a margin separating the pages. It does rely on the viewer cottoning on to the fact that the background is mirroring the panels and wanting to look back up at Deadshot. Even if it's a bit more work, I think it's a fun way to mix up a couple pages of an action scene. e: Anyway, it looked neat, which was the point. He's the second artist on Green Arrow now, which is a pretty good match to Otto.
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Why making it a two page spread then? If the idea is to make the second page a mirror of the first, making them separate pages would've been better.
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Dark_Tzitzimine posted:If the idea is to make the second page a mirror of the first It's not. The bottom is a timeline of the scene, matching the panels above it. On the first page she's shooting and flipping around that bad guy and on the second they're surrounded. Teenage Fansub fucked around with this message at 01:19 on Aug 1, 2016 |
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Dark_Tzitzimine posted:Why making it a two page spread then? If the idea is to make the second page a mirror of the first, making them separate pages would've been better. This I don't agree with. There's ways to present this page and achieve the desired effect that are good and interesting. The way it's presented is bad and confusing, but the idea isn't inherently bad or wrong. Like I said, I've seen layouts doing this sort of thing that have worked well. That's not one of them at all.
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Like the Young Avengers one. That one had numbered areas to make it easier though.
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