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Tei posted:You are right, has always. La mujer guineana; una belleza sin parangon, no como las sudamericanas Those forums always end up talking about the same things.
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We can't stop here, this is Basque Country.
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icantfindaname posted:Well, territorially France is substantially less federalist than Spain, and in language policy has barely moved beyond actively trying to exterminate minority languages. Catalonia and the Basques have a pretty sweet deal compared to Bretons or Alsatian Germans Good news for France, most of them been exterminated by now.
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Kraps posted:sorry this is from the beginning of the thread but omg this is my dream come Looks like ~30 minutes from Boston to Portsmouth NH. 
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FreudianSlippers posted:I've heard the French let the ETA operate freely in France since they primarily used their bases in France as a safe-haven when things got heated and would very seldom actually do any terroristing in France itself as not to risk bringing unneeded attention to their hideouts. The French knew this and did therefore not take any action against the ETA since it wasn't really their problem what they did in Spain and it was best not to rock the boat. That is to say until the Spanish convinced them to help and a lot of ETA members were arrested in France. I am not a expert, but I think you are 100% correct here. It took the french many years to understood spain was really a democracy and having a democracy serve a host/hideout for terrorist on another democracy is a non-sense. Once they understood that, things changed (relativelly) quickly.
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icantfindaname posted:~90% of Navarre and Basque Country is Spanish, there's no absolute need for France to give up their slice. And the chance of France doing that is essentially zero, what with France's nationalist territorial integrity obsession Ohno I meant that Spain will point to France and go "look those guys aren't giving you land so we won't either".
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Boiled Water posted:Ohno I meant that Spain will point to France and go "look those guys aren't giving you land so we won't either". Well, it hasn't stopped the Kurds. Speaking of which here's the regions that make up Kurdistan 
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Baka-nin posted:Well, it hasn't stopped the Kurds. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X00djifIj9s
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Lord Hydronium posted:Didn't Romans sometimes give unrelated and geographically distant tribes the same name because one reminded them of the other? These are the same people whose historians repeatedly named entirely unrelated foreign pantheons after their own, even if they were monotheistic. Sometimes they wouldn't even be bothered to record what the natives actually called them. I'm looking at you "Scythian Ares". Schizotek fucked around with this message at 23:52 on Jul 31, 2016 |
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Jul 31, 2016 23:49
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Baka-nin posted:Well, it hasn't stopped the Kurds. Politically loaded because this map doesn't include the Kobane and Efrin cantons.
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Also that Kurdish map manages to have ports in the Mediterranean and the Persian Gulf. I know irredentists are obsessed with ports, but jfc.
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Schizotek posted:These are the same people whose historians repeatedly named entirely unrelated foreign pantheons after their own, even if they were monotheistic. Sometimes they wouldn't even be bothered to record what the natives actually called them. I'm looking at you "Scythian Ares". When they encountered the Jews, the Romans decided they were worshiping the Sky Itself, Caelus (aka Uranus).
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icantfindaname posted:Nope. Senators were not elected, they were appointed by the Consul for life. The Senate was not a lawmaking body either, it was much closer to the supreme court. It had the power to interpret laws and to veto actions taken by the executive Actually, senators were appointed by the Censors, who were elected every few years to let state contracts and do a census. You had to have an income of at least 1 million sesterces a year from land you owned (no commercial activities), and be of a good family/personal background (as determined by the Censors). After Sulla's reforms, you could also become a senator by gaining a major military decoration. The main lawmaking body of the late republic was the Plebeian Assembly, which was whatever plebeians had to be in the Well of the Comitia (think a kind of public ampitheater) when a meeting was called. Laws could be referred to the Plebeian Assembly via a "senatorial consultation", or promulgated directly by Tribunes of the Plebs, who were a group of 10 plebeian men elected on a yearly basis who could propose and veto legislation, amongst other powers. Actually, the power of the tribunes is part of why it was, in many ways, better to be a plebeian nobleman than a patrician one. Plebeian politicians could make a big splash early in their careers by getting elected tribune and getting laws passed. Patrician ones didn't have a chance to really make a splash until they were elected patrician aedile, which meant they had to spend tons of their own money repairing public infrastructure and holding expensive circuses. This need to take on debt to please the voters is also part of why Roman governors were notorious for raping their provinces for every last penny. Roman governmental systems are like the torturously complex system of centurion ranks. 99% of the time, whatever book is trying to explain things will just say "it was very very complicated." TheBalor fucked around with this message at 02:04 on Aug 1, 2016 |
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platzapS fucked around with this message at 03:18 on Aug 1, 2016 |
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Aug 1, 2016 03:14
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(you didn't embed it properly  )lol at Florida 
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Arglebargle III posted:Portuguese is the worst romance language. From a while back, but what in the world is this It goes Portuguese > Romanian > Catalan > Romansh > Spanish > Italian > French
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Think how easily the Italians could have been in the same situation as the Kurds.
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Baka-nin posted:Well, it hasn't stopped the Kurds. Some of those areas have a Kurdish population smaller than 1% of the total population. This would probably require a whole lot of ethnic cleansing.
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TheBalor posted:Laws could be referred to the Plebeian Assembly via a "senatorial consultation", or promulgated directly by Tribunes of the Plebs, who were a group of 10 plebeian men elected on a yearly basis who could propose and veto legislation, amongst other powers. Actually, the power of the tribunes is part of why it was, in many ways, better to be a plebeian nobleman than a patrician one. Plebeian politicians could make a big splash early in their careers by getting elected tribune and getting laws passed. This was also why Sulla instituted the cursus honorum, which stuck, where you had to meet certain milestones of age and lower offices held to stand for a higher office; and the restriction that if you were elected as Tribune of the Plebeians you were barred from running for any office in the cursus honorum ever agan, which didn't stick. Oh yeah and there was a guy, a patrician, who got adopted by a pleb and renounced his patrician status just so he could run for Tribune of the Plebs. Imagine if being elected US Senator or Representative disqualified you from running for President. The only way to get national profile would be Governorships or the military. Sulphagnist fucked around with this message at 09:32 on Aug 1, 2016 |
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Antti posted:Imagine if being elected US Senator or Representative disqualified you from running for President. The only way to get national profile would be Governorships or the military.
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Why does Iowa have the second largest font after USA? Vorpal Cat fucked around with this message at 09:52 on Aug 1, 2016 |
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Vorpal Cat posted:Why does Iowa have the second largest font after USA? They had to fill in the empty bits with something
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cheerfullydrab posted:Think how easily the Italians could have been in the same situation as the Kurds. no outside nation wants italy, it's full of italians slavatuvs posted:Some of those areas have a Kurdish population smaller than 1% of the total population. This would probably require a whole lot of ethnic cleansing. The southernmost few connecting to the Gulf are pretty fanciful, and only make sense if you count Lurs as Kurds, which they are not. The rest is pretty much accurate though icantfindaname fucked around with this message at 10:09 on Aug 1, 2016 |
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icantfindaname posted:no outside nation wants italy, it's full of italians I'm saying it was strategic territory fought over for over a thousand years, and its people were pawns in a hundred different Great Games, just like Kurdistan, but it has somehow developed a nation-state in the last 150 years, despite all the trends of history. Kurdistan could do the same thing. Needless to say, that map is pretty irredentist as gently caress.
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Can't wait for the Kurdish Garibaldi to lay siege to, uh, Mossul? And finally bring the unification of glorious Kurdistan to completion.
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Surely no one would want Southern Italy
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System Metternich posted:Can't wait for the Kurdish Garibaldi to lay siege to, uh, Mossul? And finally bring the unification of glorious Kurdistan to completion. Probably more pressing is finding Kurdistan's Napoleon III. The closest Kurdistan has had so far is Bush Jr., which is hardly a promising start.
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Kurtofan posted:Did senators represent constituencies? No. The tribes were given equal representation (at least nominally) in one of three assemblies, though, the Comitia Tributa, which was used for voting on certain kinds of elections and motions. Lord Hydronium posted:Didn't Romans sometimes give unrelated and geographically distant tribes the same name because one reminded them of the other? Sometimes, yes. More often than not they just give us some Latinized variant of the emic name of a people.
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Ag Bengip posted:From a while back, but what in the world is this how did you get it completely backward you weirdo bet you like german
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I would support an independent Kurdistan in principle, but they're going to have to be a bit less ambitious. No ports for them.
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Whorelord posted:how did you get it completely backward you weirdo No French is at the end.
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Phlegmish posted:I would support an independent Kurdistan in principle, but they're going to have to be a bit less ambitious. No ports for them.
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Baka-nin posted:Well, it hasn't stopped the Kurds. This is just adorable. Really, Dezful? Hatay? What's the source on this?
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Golbez posted:This is just adorable. Really, Dezful? Hatay? What's the source on this? Hatay is less ridiculous than Luristan. The eastern Syria-facing half of Hatay at the very least has a substantial Kurdish population icantfindaname fucked around with this message at 16:55 on Aug 1, 2016 |
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Golbez posted:This is just adorable. Really, Dezful? Hatay? What's the source on this? It's based entirely on an early 1700s European map of the Ottoman Empire lazily labeling that whole swath with no Kurds in it "Curdistan." My guess is also that Kurdish hyper-nationalists probably claim the Iranian Lurs ethnic group(and probably Persians, but you can't really say that) as part of their own.  
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What would the Kurds even do with that impossibly tiny point on the Gulf coastline
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A Buttery Pastry posted:Or being the greatest businessman that ever will be. A land developer with a desire to invade Syria? That probably ended well for him.
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HorseRenoir posted:What would the Kurds even do with that impossibly tiny point on the Gulf coastline Ports! More ports! WARM WATER PORTS!  Instead of ports we should give Kurdistan a teeny strip of land all the way down to Equatorial Africa and give them a space elevator, IMO.
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HorseRenoir posted:What would the Kurds even do with that impossibly tiny point on the Gulf coastline Probably the same thing Iraq does with their impossibly tiny point.
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