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That's great dudes Kojima already broke the 4th wall two decades ago and also predicted the rise of Trump
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Magritte predicted Trump in 1967.
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# ? Aug 1, 2016 01:20 |
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What's Portal's 'legacy' Undertale will be about on par with that (short cute game that you get over quick with annoying fandom)
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Iron Prince posted:FUCKABLE SPIDERS
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# ? Aug 1, 2016 01:34 |
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my favorite character in undertale is Johnny Smoke, an original character i created within the undertale universe guess what he does
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# ? Aug 1, 2016 01:38 |
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Al Cowens posted:What's Portal's 'legacy' Undertale I'm betting in as much time is going to be remembered for making its moral choice system implicit but maintaining its impact through ~ludonarrative~ (meaning the unstated narrative you get out of gameplay. now get mad at the neologism, everybody who is worthless.) the bullet hell system is novel, but it's not much more of a departure from turn-based/active-time battle than Paper Mario was, and the prodding at base assumptions is more navel-gazing than it is pioneering. its real accomplishment was just making players feel bad for doing things in game that they would feel bad about doing irl. no floating -5 to the karma meter, no devil horns, just the fact that the dog you killed is dead forever and you won't see it again because you killed it. that's an innovation that can be incorporated across genre, and expand the possibilities of conflict resolution in game design. whoops i mean fart balls cuck vote for trump
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oh man Lisa/Undertale crossover. Think of the possibilities.
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Cubone posted:honestly Portal is probably going to be remembered for its design philosophy. it's an immaculate example of teaching novel game mechanics on a digestible learning curve interwoven with gameplay and narrative. the memes and fandom have already faded to memory, but people still hold games like The Magic Circle and Quadrilateral Cowboy up against whether they teach and execute their conceptual game mechanics as well as Portal did. it remains in the conversation in that capacity. Have you considered that its popular because ppl identify w/ it, which is different from all that stuff?
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Ork of Fiction posted:Have you considered that its popular because ppl identify w/ it, which is different from all that stuff?
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Undertale already led to a bunch of fourth-wall breaking imitation stuff like Pony Island, and now lots of lovely horror games do that "bad thing attacks you and it CRASHES YOUR GAME woah" thing from it. Also Pathologic is legit amazing and everyone should play it, even if it's hilariously unfun to actually play Popular Human fucked around with this message at 03:22 on Aug 1, 2016 |
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Cubone posted:i'm not sure what you're referring to or what in my post could have prompted a response about relative popularity, but if you're talking about undertale that's as fine an explanation as any, neighbor. Yeah. Undertale. I don't think that the gameplay was really the sticking point, or even the way that it offers multiple approaches to how the game is played. That stuff was novel, but not what made it popular so much as it speaking to a time and a place in a way that nothing before really has be able to do with any authenticity. I've called it the Clerks of video games before, and I stick by it. It's an exemplary freshman work from an independent artist that captured something human about its audience as well as its subjects.
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# ? Aug 1, 2016 03:17 |
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gently caress Pony Island and the rear end in a top hat that made it
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Popular Human posted:lots of lovely horror games do that "bad thing attacks you and it CRASHES YOUR GAME woah" thing from it.
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# ? Aug 1, 2016 03:25 |
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Its legacy will be a billion "quirky comedy retro-style RPG" knockoffs and they will all be bad. Or maybe it won't, it's weird, enough time has passed for the knockoffs to start rolling out and I haven't seen that many. I guess it will just be forgotten and die.
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Cubone posted:whoops i mean fart balls cuck vote for trump haha you had me there for a second cubone good one haha *puts down whip* Al Cowens posted:gently caress Pony Island and the rear end in a top hat that made it it got an award by the crazy five guys gamer lady and this award is proudly displayed on the steam page
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Cubone posted:afaik that started with Imscared.exe in 2012 It was like The Ring except instead of a haunted VHS tape it was about a haunted hand held RPG game
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# ? Aug 1, 2016 03:31 |
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i want to say Lisa is a really really good game and it is but it has so many flaws from RPG maker it brings it down as a whole
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# ? Aug 1, 2016 03:31 |
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pronably a lot of tumblr posts and then a lot of lovely games that try to be it and fail horribly
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Putty posted:i want to say Lisa is a really really good game and it is but it has so many flaws from RPG maker it brings it down as a whole
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# ? Aug 1, 2016 03:34 |
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Al Cowens posted:gently caress Pony Island and the rear end in a top hat that made it what about them
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# ? Aug 1, 2016 03:37 |
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i still haven't played LISA but apparently it's sad with funny parts as opposed to Undertale which was funny with sad parts. confirm/deny?
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# ? Aug 1, 2016 03:39 |
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symbolic posted:i still haven't played LISA but apparently it's sad with funny parts as opposed to Undertale which was funny with sad parts. confirm/deny? confirmed Putty posted:i want to say Lisa is a really really good game and it is but it has so many flaws from RPG maker it brings it down as a whole confirmed
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# ? Aug 1, 2016 03:41 |
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Al Cowens posted:gently caress Pony Island and the rear end in a top hat that made it have you considered the possibility that you don't like vimeogrames? Pony Island was fun.
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# ? Aug 1, 2016 03:48 |
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Ork of Fiction posted:That stuff was novel, but not what made it popular so much as it speaking to a time and a place in a way that nothing before really has be able to do with any authenticity. I've called it the Clerks of video games before, and I stick by it. It's an exemplary freshman work from an independent artist that captured something human about its audience as well as its subjects. The Clerks comparison is totally accurate in so far as speaking to a specific time and place, but it's a lot more insular than Clerks IMO and probably won't have as lasting a legacy. You can still show Clerks to most people and they'll be entertained by it, but Undertale is so fanatically in-joke-y that it's hard to explain any of the jokes or even the general concept of it unless you specifically come from the background those jokes and that concept came out of. Saving, doing a thing and then reloading to see what happens if you do the opposite of that thing isn't something normal people do when they play a normal videogame, and whatever gotcha value it has is lost on them. Slowbeef did a stream where his wife played the game and she hated it exactly because of all the things like that.
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# ? Aug 1, 2016 03:52 |
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Saint Isaias Boner posted:pathologic Pathologic is a loving tremendous game and I found it extremely addictive and good but my brain is riddled with aids
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Ork of Fiction posted:Yeah. Undertale. I don't think that the gameplay was really the sticking point, or even the way that it offers multiple approaches to how the game is played. That stuff was novel, but not what made it popular so much as it speaking to a time and a place in a way that nothing before really has be able to do with any authenticity. I've called it the Clerks of video games before, and I stick by it. It's an exemplary freshman work from an independent artist that captured something human about its audience as well as its subjects.
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Does anyone want to talk about pathologic instead
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subhuman filth posted:Does anyone want to talk about pathologic instead nah
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subhuman filth posted:Does anyone want to talk about pathologic instead what the gently caress is in the aviary? blood pool in the abattoir, polyhedron is piercing the ground, forgotten pagan beliefs, the relationship between earth and flesh: cool. all on the table. what the gently caress is in the aviary? somebody spoil me, please, I have zero desire to go through the game again.
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subhuman filth posted:Does anyone want to talk about pathologic instead wat
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symbolic posted:i still haven't played LISA but apparently it's sad with funny parts as opposed to Undertale which was funny with sad parts. confirm/deny? Yes. The premise is it's the post-apocalypse because there's no women left on earth and you're a drug-addicted kung fu guy raising a little girl orphan in secret who goes missing one day. It's bleak as gently caress but there's some great jokes and rad tunes and it does ~meaningful choices~ way better than most games because they actually have major effects on the gameplay mechanics as well as the story. It's a game that's possible to beat with no arms because you lost them both over the course of the game thanks to your gently caress-ups. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-kT5SDifCU darth_pizza posted:have you considered the possibility that you don't like vimeogrames? Pony Island is good and funny and doesn't take itself seriously at all, I feel sorry for the people whose brain problems keep them from enjoying such a silly little puzzle game.
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Guy Mann posted:It's a game that's possible to beat with no arms because you lost them both over the course of the game thanks to your gently caress-ups. gently caress, i'm sold
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one armed brad is still legit
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The fish monster chick seems kinda cool.
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symbolic posted:
You've made the right choice. Also everything in the game, from art to writing to music, was made by one guy with no actual training or experience aside from one RPGmaker game. The game's soundtrack was made on a free trial copy of Fruity Loops https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZuI3ZkCHfs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjFr_vW8kwc
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the Soundtrack uses a lot of sampling which i'm a big fan of since i wasted my life making Youtube Poops back in the day one song is just a guy from Shenmue orgasming over and over again
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# ? Aug 1, 2016 04:27 |
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undertale is a good game with good characters that said, it was at its peak before it got real popular, because most people had a chance to go in blind and experience it before the Lets Players came in and did their thing. I'm glad I got to experience it for myself, and I wonder if Toby will ever make another game, because he sure as hell doesn't have to with all the money he's made from it edit: There probably won't be an artistic legacy of undertale, because at this point the awful fanbase is bigger than the game itself
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Guy Mann posted:You've made the right choice.
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