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Blade_of_tyshalle
Jul 12, 2009

If you think that, along the way, you're not going to fail... you're blind.

There's no one I've ever met, no matter how successful they are, who hasn't said they had their failures along the way.

It's Always Rainy

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DeadBonesBrook
May 31, 2011

How do you do, fellow Regis?

Oh wow that's amazing, where did you find these?

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

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Jellymouth posted:

The Ferengi were at their best in their own episodes of DS9. If there were a Star Trek spin-off that was just the misadventures of Ferengi, I would watch the poo poo out of it.
It's Never Sunny on Ferenginar or something like that.

Arrested Development style soap opera about the antics of Zek and Moogie.

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
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I don't like Vic Fontaine.

Farmer Crack-Ass
Jan 2, 2001

this is me posting irl

DeadBonesBrook posted:

Oh wow that's amazing, where did you find these?

A few years ago, Rick Sternbach was selling off binders full of photocopies of the various memos he'd written and received throughout TNG.

Here's another bit I scanned from there:

Zurui
Apr 20, 2005
Even now...



Data Graham posted:

Arrested Development style soap opera about the antics of Zek and Moogie.

Quark: "I've made a huge mistake."

Baka-nin
Jan 25, 2015

Farmer Crack-rear end posted:

A few years ago, Rick Sternbach was selling off binders full of photocopies of the various memos he'd written and received throughout TNG.

Here's another bit I scanned from there:



This reminds me of an anecdote from a writer on one of the many Trek related interviews I've seen. Gene chewed him out over a script proposal because "you don't know the difference between shields and deflectors!"

FilthyImp
Sep 30, 2002

Anime Deviant

Baka-nin posted:

This reminds me of an anecdote from a writer on one of the many Trek related interviews I've seen. Gene chewed him out over a script proposal because "you don't know the difference between shields and deflectors!"
Considering how often the Deflector array is used like a giant transmitter/antenna, I'm not sure a lot of people actually cared about the difference.

Gau
Nov 18, 2003

I don't think you understand, Gau.
At one point Riker comments that a ship's laser weapons "wouldn't even penetrate our navigational deflector." Go ahead and explain to me how that works.

FilthyImp
Sep 30, 2002

Anime Deviant

Gau posted:

At one point Riker comments that a ship's laser weapons "wouldn't even penetrate our navigational deflector." Go ahead and explain to me how that works.

The navflector can divert High Energy photons, radiation, and microparticulates so they're basically strobing the Enterprise D with a CD drive diode.
:goonsay:

Arglebargle III
Feb 21, 2006

Gau posted:

At one point Riker comments that a ship's laser weapons "wouldn't even penetrate our navigational deflector." Go ahead and explain to me how that works.

The navigational deflector is really two things, a force field and a scanning beam array.

MikeJF
Dec 20, 2003




There are two components to navigational deflectors: the deflector beam (a giant repulsor beam that shoots ahead of the ship) and the deflector shields (lightweight shields that run all the time mainly tuned to physical and radiological dangers).

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
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Deep Space Nine 6x22 "the Valiant."

Every one of these Red Squad assholes needs to die horribly by the end of this episode.

Blade_of_tyshalle
Jul 12, 2009

If you think that, along the way, you're not going to fail... you're blind.

There's no one I've ever met, no matter how successful they are, who hasn't said they had their failures along the way.

Rhyno posted:

Deep Space Nine 6x22 "the Valiant."

Every one of these Red Squad assholes needs to die horribly by the end of this episode.

You're in for a treat.

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
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Jesus Christ. The scene where they just chant Red Squad over and over again. This is the closest I've come to skipping ahead while watching.

Delsaber
Oct 1, 2013

This may or may not be correct.

One of the reasons why I shrugged at the Leeroy Jenkins meme was because the Red Squad cadets did pretty much the exact same thing a few years earlier.

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
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Well thank god that's over. Without a doubt the worst episode of the series thus far.

Tighclops
Jan 23, 2008

Unable to deal with it


Grimey Drawer
I like how they tried to death star trench run the big bad dominion ship but it turns out star wars doesn't work and they all die horribly

primaltrash
Feb 11, 2008

(Thought-ful Croak)

Rhyno posted:

Well thank god that's over. Without a doubt the worst episode of the series thus far.

It's actually very good and everything that should happen does. Starfleet's Junior Fascists took over a spaceship and did exactly as well as you'd expect.

(At the risk of sounding too sarcastic, I really do think this is an episode that's better on reflection, I hate it the first time too)

primaltrash fucked around with this message at 01:00 on Aug 1, 2016

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Snt4hjE1Eds

Asmodai_00
Nov 26, 2007

Rhyno posted:

Well thank god that's over. Without a doubt the worst episode of the series thus far.

what

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
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armoredgorilla posted:

It's actually very good and everything that should happen does. Starfleet's Junior Fascists took over a spaceship and did exactly as well as you'd expect.

(At the risk of sounding too sarcastic, I really do think this is an episode that's better on reflection, I hate it the first time too)

I'm basing my hatred over them sifting to the bottom of the casting bucket for the cadet crew.

cenotaph
Mar 2, 2013



Watching those smug pricks get owned is great.

The Dark One
Aug 19, 2005

I'm your friend and I'm not going to just stand by and let you do this!

Baka-nin posted:

I guess that first paragraph explains why the Ferengi kept twitching and snarling like they were on the mother of all sugar rushes. Out of everything odd and dumb in the last outpost that's the part that really convinced me that these guys were a joke. I'm pretty sure it was the first thing they ditched while hastily retooling them, they don't act like that in the Battle do they?

That ratlike twitchiness always bugged me. Aron Eisenberg even kept doing for the first few seasons of DS9.

WickedHate
Aug 1, 2013

by Lowtax
So Gene's Federation future is meant to convince us that peace and love and socialism rock, but the existence of the Ferengi being a power with roughly equivalent tech evidently means that unrestrained capitalism works just fine too.

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

Would you like to play a game?



STB dropped 60% this weekend, which isn't great. That's the worst drop of the three JJTrek films.

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

Your mother!

WickedHate posted:

So Gene's Federation future is meant to convince us that peace and love and socialism rock, but the existence of the Ferengi being a power with roughly equivalent tech evidently means that unrestrained capitalism works just fine too.

Gene never believed any of the poo poo he spewed; his brain was completely addled by LSD, cocaine and alcohol by the end of the '70s. He cared about making money and getting laid.

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
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Timby posted:

Gene never believed any of the poo poo he spewed; his brain was completely addled by LSD, cocaine and alcohol by the end of the '70s. He cared about making money and getting laid.

I really wish Gene had started a cult.

HIJK
Nov 25, 2012
in the room where you sleep

Rhyno posted:

I really wish Gene had started a cult.

I bet this was one of the greatest regrets of his life.

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
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HIJK posted:

I bet this was one of the greatest regrets of his life.

I feel like we should try and complete his work.

Arglebargle III
Feb 21, 2006

FlamingLiberal posted:

STB dropped 60% this weekend, which isn't great. That's the worst drop of the three JJTrek films.

That happens when you generate negative word of mouth on your first two titles xf start truck enterprise

Big Mean Jerk
Jan 27, 2009

Well, of course I know him.
He's me.
Saw Beyond again today, this time with my dad who's a TOS ultra-fan (he liked it). Caught another easter egg; during the Yorktown scene where Sulu meets his family, there's a boarding call for "Stargazer, NCC-2893". Nice little shout out to TNG, even if the timeline's a little wonky.

edit; although maybe not, if you assume the Stargazer was a 60 year old POS when Picard took command.

Big Mean Jerk fucked around with this message at 02:06 on Aug 1, 2016

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
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Worf vs crying baby is amazing.

CharlieWhiskey
Aug 18, 2005

everything, all the time

this is the world

Big Mean Jerk posted:

Saw Beyond again today, this time with my dad who's a TOS ultra-fan (he liked it). Caught another easter egg; during the Yorktown scene where Sulu meets his family, there's a boarding call for "Stargazer, NCC-2893". Nice little shout out to TNG, even if the timeline's a little wonky.

edit; although maybe not, if you assume the Stargazer was a 60 year old POS when Picard took command.

Just watched Relics and Picard calls his beloved Stargazer a piece of poo poo, so this checks out.

Nessus
Dec 22, 2003

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WickedHate posted:

So Gene's Federation future is meant to convince us that peace and love and socialism rock, but the existence of the Ferengi being a power with roughly equivalent tech evidently means that unrestrained capitalism works just fine too.
The Ferengi aren't really unrestrained capitalism, they're just a lot closer to what we'd consider modern day capitalism than the Feds. Quark is aghast at the prospect of selling tobacco, and Quark is more or less portrayed as John Q. Ferengi. "Unrestrained capitalism" here would either do some math to figure out the highest sustainable rate of death-stick sales, or try to goose death-stick sales immensely to make quarterly figures and then let everything collapse.

The big thing that seems to get your poo poo moving fast is having lots of different people cooperating, and I imagine the Ferengi would have gotten the same kind of effect the Feds did from having everyone in the Federation. I recall Quark confirmed that in 1947 or so, Ferenginar didn't have warp drive, so they're not drastically behind Earf.

WickedHate
Aug 1, 2013

by Lowtax
I thought Quark was a philanthropist by Ferengi standards?

Farmer Crack-Ass
Jan 2, 2001

this is me posting irl
I think it also depends on how you measure progress and what kind of society you want to live in.

Big Mean Jerk posted:

Saw Beyond again today, this time with my dad who's a TOS ultra-fan (he liked it). Caught another easter egg; during the Yorktown scene where Sulu meets his family, there's a boarding call for "Stargazer, NCC-2893". Nice little shout out to TNG, even if the timeline's a little wonky.

edit; although maybe not, if you assume the Stargazer was a 60 year old POS when Picard took command.

It's too small to see on screen, but the Operation Retrieve map in Star Trek 6 had a USS Constellation with an NX prefix.

Blade_of_tyshalle
Jul 12, 2009

If you think that, along the way, you're not going to fail... you're blind.

There's no one I've ever met, no matter how successful they are, who hasn't said they had their failures along the way.

He's a soft touch, but still a shrewd, successful businessman.

The Dark One
Aug 19, 2005

I'm your friend and I'm not going to just stand by and let you do this!
The "aghast at selling tobacco" thing isn't even consistent since Quark had no problem selling weapons to both sides of a bloody conflict.

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Apollodorus
Feb 13, 2010

TEST YOUR MIGHT
:patriot:
No, he had a big problem with it and that's why he quit, did you even watch the whole episode?

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