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AgentSythe posted:The Mighty Quinn trip report: it's bad Oh lmao were you the guy playing that? It looked sweet
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thoughts on Eldritch Evolution in Elves? In a typical Natural Order build, it seems really, really bad -- but in Chaos Elves, it's another way to find a t2/t3 Teeg, and just as importantly, we can still cast this with Teeg on the board.
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Aug 1, 2016 16:19
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Tim Raines IRL posted:thoughts on Eldritch Evolution in Elves? In a typical Natural Order build, it seems really, really bad -- but in Chaos Elves, it's another way to find a t2/t3 Teeg, and just as importantly, we can still cast this with Teeg on the board. I was about to respond assuming you were talking about modern elves but are you referring to playing it in addition to natural order in legacy elves? Somewhat related, Jeff Hoogland put 4 of them in his kiki chord deck and went down to 3 chords for the classic this weekend. I think they're a steal at $5 each. Card is real good.
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Aug 1, 2016 16:28
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Tim Raines IRL posted:thoughts on Eldritch Evolution in Elves? In a typical Natural Order build, it seems really, really bad -- but in Chaos Elves, it's another way to find a t2/t3 Teeg, and just as importantly, we can still cast this with Teeg on the board. It's also a nice finisher to grab a shaman of the pack if you have critical mass.
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Aug 1, 2016 16:41
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Fingers McLongDong posted:I think they're a steal at $5 each. Card is real good. Yeah, I was surprised how cheap they are. Oh well got a playset now in case it spikes to stupid amounts later.
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Aug 1, 2016 17:49
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Tim Raines IRL posted:thoughts on Eldritch Evolution in Elves? In a typical Natural Order build, it seems really, really bad -- but in Chaos Elves, it's another way to find a t2/t3 Teeg, and just as importantly, we can still cast this with Teeg on the board. I am going to try it in Modern and retreive Iona or Elesh Norn. Though I have to learn which color to name against certain matchups.
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Aug 1, 2016 17:56
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Star Man posted:I am going to try it in Modern and retreive Iona or Elesh Norn. Though I have to learn which color to name against certain matchups. Easy, just play mirror gallery, and play 4 Ionas, and some clones. Name every color and just pray they're not running all is dust.
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Aug 1, 2016 18:09
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L0cke17 posted:Easy, just play mirror gallery, and play 4 Ionas, and some clones. Name every color and just pray they're not running all is dust. if I can resolve multiple 4-5 drops I'd rather just win off Kiki.
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Aug 1, 2016 19:50
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Tim Raines IRL posted:if I can resolve multiple 4-5 drops I'd rather just win off Kiki. Someone's missing the comedic value of not letting your opponent play magic.
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Aug 1, 2016 20:02
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What do y'all think about this deck? Todd Stevens (a streamer and scg grinder) played this version to good success on MODO. My version has a different sideboard and a few minor tweaks (maindeck relic over 3rd spellskite, uhh, that's about it). Anyway, this deck is pretty cheap to build and actually really really powerful. It's sort of like tron in that it goes over the top of decks like jund and control, but it isn't as weak to burn and affinity because of the chalices and infect is a great matchup. You can reliably cast thought-knots and reality smashers on turn 3, but the deck doesn't fold to one crumble to dust. 
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Aug 1, 2016 20:29
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Skyl3lazer posted:Oh lmao were you the guy playing that? It looked sweet I played it in one of the challenges on Saturday, yeah. I played a real deck in the second challenge and in the classic on Sunday okay so how am I supposed to beat Death and Taxes on a consistent basis with Grixis Delver? I mean I can do it with my Super Delver draws and I do my best to protect my mana and value lands since I know they're going to get hosed up over the course of the games but that matchup seems tough
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Aug 1, 2016 22:10
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AgentSythe posted:I played it in one of the challenges on Saturday, yeah. I played a real deck in the second challenge and in the classic on Sunday I told you, get really lucky and have them draw badly.
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Aug 1, 2016 22:49
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suicidesteve posted:I told you, get really lucky and have them draw badly. It can't ever seem to beat multiple terminus so I guess I just throw in the Tundra and run those. can't ever lose Speaking of death and taxes losing to terminus, I saw the following sequence of events at the classic yesterday: Miracles vs D&T, just going into turns in game 3. Miracles guy has countertop assembled and a baneslayer. D&T guy attempts to go for the draw by flickerwisping the baneslayer in attacks. Flickerwisp ability happens, miracles guy goes to second main, hard casts a Terminus, Baneslayer comes back. Bonus posted:-snip- Basilisk Collar + Endbringer is a delight. What does it want Crucible for? Fulminator mage matchups?
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Aug 1, 2016 23:02
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Toxic Deluge (or, if you want to get really laset focused, virtues ruin) seems ok if you can ever cast a 3 mana spell against them(which seems hard but idk)
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Aug 1, 2016 23:21
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Massacre is the best grixis card for clearing the board against DnT. Dread of Night also does a lot of work. If you want a card that does an OK impression of those but also hits TNN, you use Marsh Casualties. Deluge is waaaay too expensive, and Virtue's Ruin is a mix of waaaay too expensive and also not as flexible as deluge.
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Aug 1, 2016 23:29
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AgentSythe posted:It can't ever seem to beat multiple terminus so I guess I just throw in the Tundra and run those. can't ever lose The third Terminus is when you lose. Because it's a 1 mana Wrath which is still legal in this format for some reason, you see. If it cost a reasonable amount of mana or was at sorcery speed it would be extremely easy to beat.
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Aug 1, 2016 23:29
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Before terminus there was no viable control deck though. Without it there would only be aggro-control and combo left.
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Sigma-X posted:Massacre is the best grixis card for clearing the board against DnT. Dread of Night also does a lot of work. I forgot that Massacre and Dread of Night exist 
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Yeah I cut Dread of Night (and something else) for Baleful Strix. I was expecting more eldrazi but instead got Mom'd
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Aug 1, 2016 23:54
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There's also Sulfur Elemental for hilarity sake, Rough // Tumble is also pretty good.
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L0cke17 posted:Before terminus there was no viable control deck though. Without it there would only be aggro-control and combo left. ...and now there's no viable aggro decks. So we traded a bunch of decks for one deck which would still be perfectly fine without a 1 mana Wrath. Holy crap it's amazingly obvious that you play Miracles.
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Bonus posted:What do y'all think about this deck? Todd Stevens (a streamer and scg grinder) played this version to good success on MODO. My version has a different sideboard and a few minor tweaks (maindeck relic over 3rd spellskite, uhh, that's about it). Anyway, this deck is pretty cheap to build and actually really really powerful. It's sort of like tron in that it goes over the top of decks like jund and control, but it isn't as weak to burn and affinity because of the chalices and infect is a great matchup. So just pre-ban Eldrazi minus Eye?  It's probably still a good deck if somewhat uninspired. And it would give me an excuse to use these Chalices of the Void that aren't seeing frequent use elsewhere!
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L0cke17 posted:Before terminus there was no viable control deck though. Without it there would only be aggro-control and combo left. This is false; old ("43", pre-thespian's stage) lands was totally viable and consistently placed very well, especially in proportion to the small number of people playing the deck. Hell I remember pre-ISD (which caused every aggro deck to go blue with the printing of delver) you'd still see a Mono-U or Tezzeret Control list do well on occasion.
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Bonus posted:What do y'all think about this deck? Todd Stevens (a streamer and scg grinder) played this version to good success on MODO. My version has a different sideboard and a few minor tweaks (maindeck relic over 3rd spellskite, uhh, that's about it). Anyway, this deck is pretty cheap to build and actually really really powerful. It's sort of like tron in that it goes over the top of decks like jund and control, but it isn't as weak to burn and affinity because of the chalices and infect is a great matchup. There's a guy in my LGS that runs a list similar to that, but he does the black Eldrazi version without the Chalice and Matter Reshapers, he has Conduit of Ruin, Oblivion Sower, and Kozilek's Channeler. It was kinda slow but that deck hurt like hell to play against.
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suicidesteve posted:...and now there's no viable aggro decks. So we traded a bunch of decks for one deck which would still be perfectly fine without a 1 mana Wrath. I play miracles now. It's hilariously fun.
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Thisuck posted:There's also Sulfur Elemental for hilarity sake, Rough // Tumble is also pretty good. Sulfur Elemental wants your deck to have like a real live mountain in it though. Grixis against DnT is going to be stuck under wastelands, ports, and thalias, so the notion of getting to 3 is going to be hard at best. It DOES get through their quad stack of wingmares, though!
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Sigma-X posted:Sulfur Elemental wants your deck to have like a real live mountain in it though. Grixis against DnT is going to be stuck under wastelands, ports, and thalias, so the notion of getting to 3 is going to be hard at best. Yeah, the slightly higher cost is only mitigated by not being affected by Thalia and Wingmares, Ports and Wastelands are still a bad time. On that note, I'm slowly building up my D&T deck, just gonna go with judge promo Ports, got one last week, 3 more to go!
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Thisuck posted:Yeah, the slightly higher cost is only mitigated by not being affected by Thalia and Wingmares, Ports and Wastelands are still a bad time. On that note, I'm slowly building up my D&T deck, just gonna go with judge promo Ports, got one last week, 3 more to go! you monster also I never tried massacre because keeping a swamp in play is actually kinda hard against that deck. i might just bring the dread of night back in and figure out somewhere else to cut. Skyl3lazer posted:Oh lmao were you the guy playing that? It looked sweet on the other hand i could just jam The Mighty Quinn every event what were you playing? that event was small so I probably saw you
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AkumaHokoru posted:only if the resulting deck is called Esper Souls Surely you meant to say "Dark Souls"
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AgentSythe posted:you monster I play Hate Bears and Eldrazi bears in modern Also Dredge, Dredge everywhere, Legacy, Modern, Pauper, I'd play Dredge if i can get away with it in Standard just to mess with people.
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AgentSythe posted:Basilisk Collar + Endbringer is a delight. What does it want Crucible for? Fulminator mage matchups? Yeah the deck is similar to the old ones with eye, but it's not nearly as aggressive of course. Basically you just want to have 5 mana by turn 3 either with tron or eldrazi temples. And if you don't, you still have a lot of stuff to interact. Like I said, it's like tron but much more interactive and owns bones. hey mom its 420 fucked around with this message at 09:35 on Aug 2, 2016 |
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Procrastinator posted:Surely you meant to say "Dark Souls" I guess that could work except too much w/u not enough b
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I'm now up to having 12 modern decks without having to swap cards around between decks. Guys, I, I think I may have a real problem. Eldritch Elves/combo elves 8 whack Mono U Tron Naya Burn Boggles Living End UR possibility Storm GW hate bears Torpor Terror Norin Soul Sisters Infect 5 color restore balance.
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kizudarake posted:I'm now up to having 12 modern decks without having to swap cards around between decks. Guys, I, I think I may have a real problem. I also have a similar problem. We should start a support group. Restore Balance Dredge Jund Affinity Infect RG Tron Currently working on Abzan Company as trade fodder allows And in the end, I really only bother to play Jund consistently. But it makes for good playtesting I guess. And gives options. Yeah; I have no real justification 
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What's your list for this? I don't play with Shaman of the Pack but I almost always want to be able to cast my tutor at instant speed without using actual mana. Evolution is better when you have less of a board, but if you're in that situation then sacc'ing an elf is not free at all.
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AgentSythe posted:What's your list for this? I don't play with Shaman of the Pack but I almost always want to be able to cast my tutor at instant speed without using actual mana. Evolution is better when you have less of a board, but if you're in that situation then sacc'ing an elf is not free at all. My current list is the hoogland Iona elesh norn allosaurus rider package, but I can't start play testing until my buddy from my local store brings back my regular combo elves deck. That one's full of the normal combo elf stuff with 4 chords, 4 coco and 3 Genesis wave, dump a shitton f mana into mirror entity's ability, and 5 mana into ezuri's ability, then swing for several dozen trample damage
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Walked posted:I also have a similar problem. We should start a support group. Agreed Hello, my name is Thisuck and I have deck collection problem. These are my modern decks. Junk midrange Melira Company Jund Dredge, both Vengevine and Bridge varieties G/W Hatebears, Mono-white Hatebears, Eldrazi Bears Grixis Delver and Control Mono-Red Skred + 6 Blood Moon effects I'm just finishing up Restore Balance, Infect, and Jeskai Nahiri right now. I make sure I only use 1 kind of sleeve for everything, including my cube, so I can swap cards out whenever, it's actually pretty awesome since it's buy once then you have access to a bunch of decks. I want to play more Jund, but I just have a lot more fun playing the Eldrazi Bears and other fun non-Magic like decks, like Dredge. Thisuck fucked around with this message at 16:44 on Aug 2, 2016 |
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AgentSythe posted:you monster I was the guy playing belcher in the 4pm sat event
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Thisuck posted:I make sure I only use 1 kind of sleeve for everything, including my cube, so I can swap cards out whenever, it's actually pretty awesome since it's buy once then you have access to a bunch of decks. I use the mana flip boxes, and I use different colored dragon shields so I can tell by looking at the box-sleeve combo what deck is what. I'm scared that putting tape on the flip boxes to label them with deck names will damage them.
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Thisuck posted:Agreed When WoTC creates a new format and destroys modern in a few years it'll be cool to watch the value of all our decks plummet  Whats your Eldrazi Bears list?
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