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Shbobdb posted:I liked the part where he said that white Evangelicals aren't involved in racial politics. Once I read that, I knew this guy has zero chance of even trying to understand the appeal of Trump, much less argue against it. Maybe in 2020 when the candidate is literally Yosemite Sam hopping up and down on the podium screeching the N-word, he'll revisit that assertion.
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Sir Tonk posted:
Didn't Cornel West endorse Jill Stein several weeks ago? Why is Drudge being so late to the table with this?
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# ? Aug 1, 2016 15:39 |
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seiferguy posted:Didn't Cornel West endorse Jill Stein several weeks ago? Why is Drudge being so late to the table with this? Bernie is no longer a viable candidate for the right to concern troll about "True Liberals".
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# ? Aug 1, 2016 15:51 |
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seiferguy posted:Didn't Cornel West endorse Jill Stein several weeks ago? Why is Drudge being so late to the table with this? My money's on "Drudge didn't give a tin poo poo about it until he could turn her into One Unusual Campaign ~*the MaInStReAm LiBeRaL mEdIa*~ Doesn't Want You To Know About (Other Uterus-Having Candidates Hate Her!)"
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# ? Aug 1, 2016 15:55 |
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SatansOnion posted:My money's on "Drudge didn't give a tin poo poo about it until he could turn her into One Unusual Campaign ~*the MaInStReAm LiBeRaL mEdIa*~ Doesn't Want You To Know About (Other Uterus-Having Candidates Hate Her!)" They know Johnson is going to steal lot of very real votes from Trump, so the right is trying to make the Green party more viable.
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# ? Aug 1, 2016 16:10 |
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Jack Gladney posted:The same article dismissively refers to Mormonism as a cult. Its a cult. A large cult, to be sure, but a cult.
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# ? Aug 1, 2016 16:23 |
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https://twitter.com/mattwalshblog/status/759937660857245696
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CommieGIR posted:Its a cult. A large cult, to be sure, but a cult. Which is a meaningless slur because the distinctions between cult and religion swing on matters of structure, size, and popular acceptance, all of which Mormonism is on the "religion" side of.
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# ? Aug 1, 2016 16:30 |
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Periodiko posted:Which is a meaningless slur because the distinctions between cult and religion swing on matters of structure, size, and popular acceptance, all of which Mormonism is on the "religion" side of. True. But as someone who spent 21 years in the Church, it most certainly emphasizes the very cultist portions of itself.
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# ? Aug 1, 2016 16:36 |
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You're born into a religion. You join a cult. LDS has been around long enough that the vast majority of its members are born in and raised with the faith. Contrast this to Scientology or poo poo like Jonestown or Koresh's followers, many more of whom joined than were born and raised in the cult.
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# ? Aug 1, 2016 16:44 |
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CommieGIR posted:Its a cult. A large cult, to be sure, but a cult. Wait, are we using the old school anthropology definition where pretty much any religion can be called a cult?
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# ? Aug 1, 2016 16:57 |
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Lemniscate Blue posted:You're born into a religion. You join a cult. LDS has been around long enough that the vast majority of its members are born in and raised with the faith. That's got to be the worst definition of a cult possible. Buy the standard every religion less than like 20 years old is a cult. And every cult older than a generation or two is a religion. That gives you no knowledge of what actual distinction exists between them, or why cults have such a negative connotation.
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# ? Aug 1, 2016 17:00 |
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Shalebridge Cradle posted:That's got to be the worst definition of a cult possible. Buy the standard every religion less than like 20 years old is a cult. And every cult older than a generation or two is a religion. As seen in the discussion of the Mormon Church, the distinction between a cult and a religion is fuzzy at best. It's one of those things where you won't get two theologists in any given room who draw the line in the same place. It's a bad definition because they're all bad definitions. One person's cult is another's deeply held religion.
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# ? Aug 1, 2016 17:07 |
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SatansOnion posted:My money's on "Drudge didn't give a tin poo poo about it until he could turn her into One Unusual Campaign ~*the MaInStReAm LiBeRaL mEdIa*~ Doesn't Want You To Know About (Other Uterus-Having Candidates Hate Her!)" Speaking of Jill Stein, she deleted a tweet saying that there was "no evidence that autism is caused by vaccines" and replaced it with this: https://twitter.com/DrJillStein/status/759855955118919680 Going from "there's no evidence" to "I'm not aware" is really something.
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# ? Aug 1, 2016 17:09 |
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I thought I was done being outraged with Ann Coulter but saw her Khan comments and WELP.
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# ? Aug 1, 2016 17:11 |
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seiferguy posted:Speaking of Jill Stein, she deleted a tweet saying that there was "no evidence that autism is caused by vaccines" and replaced it with this: gently caress people who still believe this bullshit.
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Lemniscate Blue posted:You're born into a religion. You join a cult. LDS has been around long enough that the vast majority of its members are born in and raised with the faith. Contrast this to Scientology? Well Scientology has third generation members these days (i.e. grandparents raised the parents in scientology and those parents have children who are in scientology)
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Eifert Posting posted:I thought I was done being outraged with Ann Coulter but saw her Khan comments and WELP. It's literally her job. She doesn't even get mainstream gigs any more, there's no reason to pay attention to her.
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# ? Aug 1, 2016 17:18 |
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Rush Limbaugh is speaking propaganda out. Apparently when Mr. Khan was allowed to call out Trump on his racism, and make an impassioned speech about what his son did for this country? Oh yeah! POLITICAL PROP! SHE'S TRYING TO GET PEOPLE TO BLAME THE IRAQ WAR ON TRUMP AND NOT ON HERSELF! But when Vilerat's clearly bereaved mother was pushed on stage for the sake of smearing of Hillary? SHE'S SHOWING THAT HILLARY WANTED HER SON DEAD!!!!
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# ? Aug 1, 2016 17:20 |
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Night10194 posted:He does point out the most important flaw in the biblical reasoning of 'Well sometimes God uses evil men for good purpose', namely that in the biblical tradition when God does that he is usually punishing the Israelites and Judeans for loving up. The whole idea that God will withdraw his protection and allow disaster was an important theological innovation necessary to maintain henotheistic (there are other Gods but only our God is appropriate for us to worship and he's the best) and later monotheistic belief in the wake of military disasters and the conquest of Israel and Judah by the Babylonian Empire. You see, in the ancient near east, it was commonly believed that Gods did battle in the cosmos to reflect the battles on earth between their followers, and whoever won the war obviously also had the stronger god; this is why the Babylonians took the sacred things of Yahweh hostage, to show that Yahweh had been captured in battle by Marduk. Anyone who wanted to continue believing Yahweh was more powerful had to come up with an explanation, and the one they settled on was that people had ignored the prophets and lived sinfully, and so Yahweh had withdrawn his defense and let them be captured by Babylon. This proved so successful that it's part of what led to the replacement of earlier henotheism with monotheism (since if God can use foreign kings and empires, what can't he control?).
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# ? Aug 1, 2016 17:23 |
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I caught a few minutes of Herman Cain this morning and I guess the new strategy regarding the Muslim American soldier who spoke at the DNC is "why can't he just be an 'American Solider'? Democrats are the one labeling people" combined with "What about Fort Hood and all these other soldiers who died?" But I think my favorite thing he tried was "Hillary voted for the Iraq war while Trump would not have", which is so stupid I'm not even sure where to start with it. Trump didn't have a vote first of all. Republicans were super gung ho for that war and Democrats stupidly caved and allowed it. To this day, conservative pundits blame the democrats pulling out prematurely for Iraq falling into chaos and still steadfastly defend the decision to oust Hussein, some insisting that WMD's WERE actually found. This is the first time I've heard a conservative talk show host come at this thing from the angle that voting for the 2002 Iraq war might have been a stupid idea though.
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# ? Aug 1, 2016 18:05 |
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Jerry Seinfeld is so going to get the Life Magazine infomercial gig.
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The foreign policy debate is going to be really strange, Trump is taking this paradoxical position of puffed up conservative strength combined with a remarkable isolationism. Like he has to do lip service to the idea of "standing up" to foreign powers like Iran and Russia because of his base, but his actual policy in regards to NATO, in regards to American military support for allies, in regards to our wars in the middle east is a remarkable shift from GOP orthodoxy. He has the advantage that he as no real record, so he can define his positions however he wants, and he genuinely seems to be positioning himself as an anti-war candidate for a war-weary (or defeat-weary) populace. The 2016 foreign policy debate will probably be a hawkish, interventionist Democrat versus an anti-globalist, isolationist Republican, speaking to their relative positions rather than the substance of those categories. Periodiko fucked around with this message at 18:36 on Aug 1, 2016 |
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CommieGIR posted:Its a cult. A large cult, to be sure, but a cult. It doesn't meet even the most generous criteria for a cult. It did back in the days of Joseph Smith and (to a lesser extent) Brigham Young, but not any more.
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seiferguy posted:Speaking of Jill Stein, she deleted a tweet saying that there was "no evidence that autism is caused by vaccines" and replaced it with this: Alright so I suppose the handful of believers in chemtrails and beet juice cancer cures for their 4 year olds with leukemia who actually vote is enough to matter to them..?
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# ? Aug 1, 2016 20:49 |
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i am harry posted:Alright so I suppose the handful of believers in chemtrails and beet juice cancer cures for their 4 year olds with leukemia who actually vote is enough to matter to them..? It might matter because anti-vaxxers are not exclusively right wingers.
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Rick_Hunter posted:It might matter because anti-vaxxers are not exclusively right wingers.
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Chilichimp posted:To be fair, when I think of an anti-vaxxers, I'm usually thinking of a left-wing nut. My anecdotal experience has been split rather evenly. Half being extreme libertarians who don't want no government tyranny jabbing them with needles, and the other half bitching about big pharma calling the shots and spurting autism in their perfect kids' veins with ARTIFICIAL drugs.
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# ? Aug 1, 2016 21:36 |
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I didn't see this posted yet, but Taya Kyle, wife of super badass Chris Kyle, is joining FOX as a contributor. Is the timing too much of a coincidence with the whole Khan family dustup?
Coelacanthian fucked around with this message at 21:54 on Aug 1, 2016 |
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Coelacanthian posted:I didn't see this posted yet, but Taya Kyle, wife of super badass Chris Kyle, is joining FOX as a contributor. Is the timing too much of a coincidence with the whole Khan family dustup? If its true probably not. Any and all attempts at attacking the Khans after their speech has been met with justifiable outrage. Its nothing but negative attention for trump and they have to do something to quell the flames.. Taya can approach the topic as a widow and talk about his service and cant really be attacked without the RWM talking about double standards in the main stream media. Also its kind of lovely thing to attack someone about their dead spouse.
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# ? Aug 1, 2016 22:01 |
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He deserves the death penalty for such apostasy.
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# ? Aug 1, 2016 22:15 |
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Seinfeld wasn't funny there I said it
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Goatman Sacks posted:Seinfeld wasn't funny there I said it Mods?
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# ? Aug 1, 2016 22:33 |
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lol seriously. I always found Seinfeld kind hit or miss(when it hit it hit big) but everybody loves raymond sucks. its the same plot over and over again. ray does a thing shrew wife gets mad ray tries something else shrew wife rages grandma and grandpa come over grandma coddles and grandpa makes "bitting wit" Brad garrett shows up and kills them all with his service weapon. its never been funny. only show unfunnyer is big bang theory. seiferguy posted:Speaking of Jill Stein, she deleted a tweet saying that there was "no evidence that autism is caused by vaccines" and replaced it with this: Is there a real reason people like stein, because she comes off as dumbass. but every far left dipshit i see on twitter acts like she is the second coming and all the anti-vaxx stuff is "CLINTON LIES/PROPOGANDA" Hodgepodge posted:Er, that's a huge part of the argument of the article's argument and is stated explicitly by it. that was depressingly interesting. they are trapped in a contradictory idiology that demands purity but also not really because works mean nothing. yet they are bright enough to know trump is scamming them, but they cant do anything about it because the GOP is the last major party that caters to them. but now the true believers have seen the right wings Christianity idiolagy laid bear and its all bullshit and they are afraid.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:Is there a real reason people like stein, because she comes off as dumbass. but every far left dipshit i see on twitter acts like she is the second coming and all the anti-vaxx stuff is "CLINTON LIES/PROPOGANDA" She's not <establishment dem nominee>. That's all there is.
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Zerilan posted:She's not <establishment dem nominee>. That's all there is. true. but then again i guess i am not a fan of the far/alt/whatever left anymore.
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# ? Aug 1, 2016 22:47 |
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King of Queens > Everybody Loves Raymond.
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The Ape of Naples posted:King of Queens > Everybody Loves Raymond.
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FMguru posted:Slamming your nuts in a kitchen drawer over and over until they become so swollen and purple that you pass out from the pain > Everybody Loves Raymond King of Queens>Slamming your nuts in a kitchen drawer over and over until they become so swollen and purple that you pass out from the pain>E'rybody<3Raymond
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Jesus's tits Ray Romano is a whiny bitch boy in that show.
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