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That sounds like a PR and Customer Service nightmare (support costs, whatup) let alone the needless overhead of maintaining another environment. Terminating their OW sends the strongest message there is.
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Jastiger posted:Guys i have kids. Or they could just ban cheaters like they've been doing and we can laugh at them anyway. Seriously, what's with all the "yeah they cheated but the PAID for the game" business, buying a thing doesn't entitle you to unlimited rights to do whatever you want without consequences and people who think that it does are insufferable. I hope Blizzard continues to regularly ban waves of cheaters who paid full retail price for a piece of software they know they'll get banned from using if they cheat ahead of time but choose to do so anyway.
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Kai Tave posted:Or they could just ban cheaters like they've been doing and we can laugh at them anyway. Seriously, what's with all the "yeah they cheated but the PAID for the game" business, buying a thing doesn't entitle you to unlimited rights to do whatever you want without consequences and people who think that it does are insufferable. I hope Blizzard continues to regularly ban waves of cheaters who paid full retail price for a piece of software they know they'll get banned from using if they cheat ahead of time but choose to do so anyway. It's coming from people who remember the 90s, where most games of this kind shipped with the ability to run your own server and installed off a disk with a serial number. It literally wasn't possible for people to take the game away from you, and that's good for consumers. Of course I'm not completely heartbroken about the prospect of cheater-free, standardized online instead of every server having 15 mods and a 40 person limit on maps designed for 6v6, so it's a bit of a wash in the end.
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Kai Tave posted:Or they could just ban cheaters like they've been doing and we can laugh at them anyway. Seriously, what's with all the "yeah they cheated but the PAID for the game" business, buying a thing doesn't entitle you to unlimited rights to do whatever you want without consequences and people who think that it does are insufferable. I hope Blizzard continues to regularly ban waves of cheaters who paid full retail price for a piece of software they know they'll get banned from using if they cheat ahead of time but choose to do so anyway. Well, actually it kind of does for most products. Now I'm not saying they have a right to play after cheating and I"m all for the banning. I was more saying the rest to maximize MY enjoyment of their dick moves. But I think there can possibly be some gray area where you essentially charge someone for a product then intentionally disallow them use of it AT ALL. Kicking off the Bnet servers makes sense to me, but locking the entire software all together sounds a bit different. That is why I'd say allow it to be opened and played with maybe just bots and thats it.
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I remember the 90's and I'm happy with them banning cheaters and forcing them to buy the game again entirely if they want to play more having something you paid for and allegedly own taken away from you is lame as gently caress but tbh you earn it if you cheat in a multiplayer only game
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Aug 2, 2016 00:25
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Manatee Cannon posted:I remember the 90's and I'm happy with them banning cheaters and forcing them to buy the game again entirely if they want to play more Blizzard usually bans the machine, so they're welcome to keep giving Overwatch money and Blizzard will keep banning them.
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Aug 2, 2016 00:28
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Tuxedo Catfish posted:It's coming from people who remember the 90s, where most games of this kind shipped with the ability to run your own server and installed off a disk with a serial number. It literally wasn't possible for people to take the game away from you, and that's good for consumers. I'm all for consumer protections but at the same time Blizzard isn't pulling a bait and switch with Overwatch, so if you (the general you) disagree with how they handle things like this from a consumer ethics standpoint the solution would be to not buy Overwatch.
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Aug 2, 2016 00:35
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Kai Tave posted:I'm all for consumer protections but at the same time Blizzard isn't pulling a bait and switch with Overwatch, so if you (the general you) disagree with how they handle things like this from a consumer ethics standpoint the solution would be to not buy Overwatch. If I did this in TYOOL 2016 I'd have to give up multiplayer videogames as a hobby.
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Aug 2, 2016 00:47
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Kai Tave posted:Blizzard isn't pulling a bait and switch with Overwatch In fact they warned people about this AHEAD OF TIME, and have warned people about this several times. The cheaters are fully aware of what they're getting into here
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Aug 2, 2016 00:52
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This isn't even the first wave of bans it's the second. You're a special kind of dumbass if you continue using cheats and are going to be upset when you get banned. That or you get off on the thrill.
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Aug 2, 2016 00:59
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If they want to sell me the right to use their product on their servers at their discretion they are free to advertise as such. People pay money for another copy and they get banned strictly based off ip/hardware? That's bullshit. (assuming it's true)
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Aug 2, 2016 00:59
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Aug 2, 2016 01:00
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So what did you think you were buying, then? Other than an online multiplayer-only video game?
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Aug 2, 2016 01:01
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Blizzard's permabans are just like SA permabans. The retards who break the rules and keep reregistering can throw as much money as they want in the hole to reregister in a place where they're not welcome, but that doesn't mean that they're unbanned.
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Aug 2, 2016 01:06
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Duck and Cover posted:If they want to sell me the right to use their product on their servers at their discretion they are free to advertise as such. People pay money for another copy and they get banned strictly based off ip/hardware? That's bullshit. (assuming it's true) It's true and it's loving hilarious. Away all Goats posted:lol at people having any sympathy at all for cheaters
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Aug 2, 2016 01:06
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Duck and Cover posted:If they want to sell me the right to use their product on their servers at their discretion they are free to advertise as such. People pay money for another copy and they get banned strictly based off ip/hardware? That's bullshit. (assuming it's true) who gives a poo poo about these people are you one of them?
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Aug 2, 2016 01:07
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Don't they explain in their terms of service that they're going to just ban you over and over if you cheat only once, anyways? I know people don't actually read the things before agreeing to it but the people who cheat still told Blizzard "Sure, you can keep taking my money and then kicking me out over and over!"
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resistentialism posted:So what did you think you were buying, then? Other than an online multiplayer-only video game? Assuming this was directed at me, I knew exactly what I was buying. It's just that that's not really relevant to what I'm saying.
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Aug 2, 2016 01:08
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Is anyone having much better games now that this wave went out? Maybe it's just confirmation bias on my part; but I've been having much better games today.quote:If they want to sell me the right to use their product on their servers at their discretion they are free to advertise as such. People pay money for another copy and they get banned strictly based off ip/hardware? That's bullshit. (assuming it's true) Zero tolerance is the way to go. How is this bullshit? How is this even a discussion?
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Aug 2, 2016 01:09
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Duck and Cover posted:If they want to sell me the right to use their product on their servers at their discretion they are free to advertise as such. People pay money for another copy and they get banned strictly based off ip/hardware? That's bullshit. (assuming it's true) It's not bullshit. They said they would do this. They didn't trick anyone or act like they weren't going to do this. They said they were going to do it, and they are doing it. The people paying for another copy of the game and getting instantly banned because they cheated in the first place should probably not have cheated in the first place!!
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Aug 2, 2016 01:14
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cheaters gonna cheat and good on blizzard for sticking it to them
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Any word on when new skins/maps/modes will drop? After Season 1 ends maybe?
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Aug 2, 2016 01:27
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Aug 2, 2016 01:29
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The thought of competitive mode makes me sad. I just want to play quick play. Are the rewards from doing at least the placement games even worth it, if I don't care about something besides a "yay you participated badge" that isn't neat looking.
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Aug 2, 2016 01:30
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Manatee Cannon posted:they said summer so it'd have to be soon I'm hoping for seasonal "summer vacation" themed skins. I want my 76 wearing a Hawaian shirt and khaki shorts with his socks and sandals! Old-person wraparound sunglasses too!
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Aug 2, 2016 01:32
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So I was doing the whole "Hey guys, I'm on your point! Neener neener! Come divert your efforts!" schtick, but even I could not have predicted which enemy player would be the one to come after me. https://forge.gg/i/VmlkZW86ODUxNzE1 It's too bad her buddy showed up so soon after 
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Canemacar posted:I'm hoping for seasonal "summer vacation" themed skins. I want my 76 wearing a Hawaian shirt and khaki shorts with his socks and sandals! Old-person wraparound sunglasses too! ok but instead of sunglasses, he keeps his mask and wears a sun visor over it
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Canemacar posted:I'm hoping for seasonal "summer vacation" themed skins. I want my 76 wearing a Hawaian shirt and khaki shorts with his socks and sandals! Old-person wraparound sunglasses too! I want them to make it so that on the Christmas season, maps like Anubis illogically has snow all over them, all characters get a winter-based skin for that time only, and the announcer is literally Santa Claus.
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Aug 2, 2016 01:47
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some tf2 style holiday themed stuff would be cool like how tf2 does special map gimmicks during halloween/christmas, they could do special brawls that change up the maps over the holidays
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All voice emotes for all characters charged to Happy Feast of Winterveil for a month Also achievement unlocked  Jokes on you, roadhog's hook is so dodgy I don't need an aimbot
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Duck and Cover posted:If they want to sell me the right to use their product on their servers at their discretion they are free to advertise as such. People pay money for another copy and they get banned strictly based off ip/hardware? That's bullshit. (assuming it's true) Nobody installed a cheat to play against bots, 100% of players installed with malicious intent towards other players. Paying money is irrelevant. "But officer, I paid for this car, you have no power here."
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Aug 2, 2016 02:30
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Wait so they're re-banning cheaters who buy new accounts? How do they do that? Is it by IP or MAC address or something?
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Shear Modulus posted:Wait so they're re-banning cheaters who buy new accounts? How do they do that? Is it by IP or MAC address or something? Hardware ID of cpu/hard drive/etc
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Pumpy Dumper posted:Hardware ID of cpu/hard drive/etc Cool that sounds less spoofable
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Aug 2, 2016 02:57
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gently caress this game. gently caress sudden death.
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Shear Modulus posted:Cool that sounds less spoofable It's actually spoofable just fine but cheaters are idiots.
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Chewbot posted:Nobody installed a cheat to play against bots, 100% of players installed with malicious intent towards other players. Paying money is irrelevant. Well to continue your analogy, they can take your license so you can't drive legally on any roads, but you can absolutely drive your car on your property so long as it doesn't touch public roads. So, there is a bit more gray area than I think a lot of goons are giving credit for.
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Speaking of the second ban wave pleas enjoy this album http://imgur.com/a/ZzSGi
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