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cheese posted:Its called stumbling out into the street and waving my arms at yellow cars. Your assumption is that Uber makes it easier for people who are intoxicated to get safe transportation and I'm not sure that is a safe assumption. It is a matter of record, with actual studies, that putting suicide barriers on bridges reduces the overall suicide rate: make it harder to jump off a bridge, and a significant number of people don't commit suicide at all. The hope was that if you made it easier to call a cab, more drunks would do it. But, see Cheese's comment, it turns out that the reasons people drive drunk are a lot more complicated than "can't get an affordable cab". The most obvious issue is that you think you aren't all that drunk; another is that if you leave your car at the restaurant/bar, you're going to have to take a cab back the next morning to retrieve it, screwing up your commute/carpool/whatever.
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Arsenic Lupin posted:Check your urban privilege. There are lots of bars in areas where you'd have to call a cab, just as you'd have to call Uber. Arsenic Lupin posted:It is a matter of record, with actual studies, that putting suicide barriers on bridges reduces the overall suicide rate: make it harder to jump off a bridge, and a significant number of people don't commit suicide at all. The hope was that if you made it easier to call a cab, more drunks would do it. But, see Cheese's comment, it turns out that the reasons people drive drunk are a lot more complicated than "can't get an affordable cab". The most obvious issue is that you think you aren't all that drunk; another is that if you leave your car at the restaurant/bar, you're going to have to take a cab back the next morning to retrieve it, screwing up your commute/carpool/whatever.
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Elizabeth Holmes is presenting Theranos data at the AACC conference today. If she presents a pile of bullshit, it definitely won't fly in front a room full of scientists.
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Bubbacub posted:Elizabeth Holmes is presenting Theranos data at the AACC conference today. If she presents a pile of bullshit, it definitely won't fly in front a room full of scientists. Why even do this? She's largely dead in the water, and the scientific community has lambasted her already.
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# ? Aug 1, 2016 18:27 |
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i've used uber to get home safely after a night of drinking and it is more convenient. largely because you get feedback as to when/where your vehicle will show up. i've sat at bars for an hour before getting drunker, after deciding to leave, because a traditional cab just might not ever show up that being said though i live in an urban area with a lot of transportation options - i can even walk home from the bar i hang out at most frequently. i'd bet most americans live in places where the only choice is to drive or be driven, and in those places there probably isn't an uber always just around the corner CommieGIR posted:Why even do this? She's largely dead in the water, and the scientific community has lambasted her already. it could be that she's not a scammer necessarily, she really believes in her company and product and she's just inept and desperate boner confessor fucked around with this message at 18:31 on Aug 1, 2016 |
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Bubbacub posted:Elizabeth Holmes is presenting Theranos data at the AACC conference today. If she presents a pile of bullshit, it definitely won't fly in front a room full of scientists. The AACC is already hedging its bets and saying how she isn't aligned or affiliated with them and is just a speaking at a conference. Most likely she is a true believer in her original concept and no one has ever told her it fundamentally won't work no matter how much money you throw at it. Generally "ground breaking" technology isn't something you bother to keep secret once you have a patent on it unless it's military tech. The whole point in getting people to wholly accept a new paradigm is releasing all the technical data and letting the critics work themselves into furor trying to pick it apart.
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pentyne posted:The AACC is already hedging its bets and saying how she isn't aligned or affiliated with them and is just a speaking at a conference. Most likely she is a true believer in her original concept and no one has ever told her it fundamentally won't work no matter how much money you throw at it.
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Arsenic Lupin posted:Oh, they may well have told her and she didn't/wouldn't/couldn't listen. "They told Einstein he was wrong, too! Nyahahahhaha!" I love when people always try the "well science was wrong about this in the past" and I explain to them that every current scientific "fact" was at some point a radical new theory that huge swaths of the scientific community doubted and challenged, but after decades of testing and scrutiny even the hardest deniers had to accept it as valid. The concept of aether and phlogiston was codified scientific fact for decades if not centuries before new discoveries and theories arose that challenged the weakness of said facts and proved to be superior science.
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I mean, research and testing has shown that the human mind has possess an incredible ability to shield itself from information that would harm it. It is entirely possible she cannot accept that all of her work and everything she has done for the past however many years has been a total waste of time, a worldwide farce in which she is the butt of the joke, and that she will never change the world.
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# ? Aug 1, 2016 19:44 |
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I miss fuckedcompany.
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# ? Aug 1, 2016 19:55 |
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Arsenic Lupin posted:The most obvious issue is that you think you aren't all that drunk; another is that if you leave your car at the restaurant/bar, you're going to have to take a cab back the next morning to retrieve it, screwing up your commute/carpool/whatever. I don't think the suicide analogy really works anyway. Suicide is an impulsive decision and prevention methods like suicide barriers work by making it harder to commit suicide. Uber doesn't actually make it any harder to just get in your car and drive home, and doing that is still cheaper and more convenient than hailing a cab or using Uber.
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# ? Aug 1, 2016 20:38 |
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lolquote:"We don't accept old cars, they have to be relatively new. They come with a three-month, 3,000 mile warranty and a 10-day money-back guarantee, so it's effectively like a 10-day test drive—no questions asked, if it's not the car you thought it was, we'll pick it up and take it back. And because we have no brick and mortar overheads like a dealership, the prices are considerably better," Lloyd said.
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# ? Aug 1, 2016 20:45 |
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I actually bought a car from them after being 150% skeeved out by IRL car salesmen and it went fine. edit: They did recently got in touch with me (~1 year after) wanting to sell me an extended warranty so maybe their business model isn't as lucrative as they planned. withak fucked around with this message at 20:59 on Aug 1, 2016 |
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i just let the free car shopper service at my credit union handle it for me and he got me under invoice
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# ? Aug 1, 2016 20:59 |
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Had to listen to a presentation today at work by one of those X groups that provides cash to push the boundaries of technology. Blockchain is revolutionary. Don't teach kids to code, AI will do that. Tech is exponential on and on and on. Disrupt the classroom. Free global supercomputer WiFi Avenger JARVIS Kurtzweil singularity. Hooray for the future of rich white guy tech.
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FilthyImp posted:Had to listen to a presentation today at work by one of those X groups that provides cash to push the boundaries of technology. Honestly, is there anything (other than maybe "The Singularity") better designed to appeal to tech nerds' fetishes and prejudices that blockchain tech? Cryptography! Decentralization! Massive favoritism for being an early adopter!
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e_angst posted:Honestly, is there anything (other than maybe "The Singularity") better designed to appeal to tech nerds' fetishes and prejudices that blockchain tech? Cryptography! Decentralization! Massive favoritism for being an early adopter!
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Dude's pretty much a highly placed executive in the org, so I did all I could not to laugh when he said Blockchain. Yeah man, the wave of the cryptosecure future is tiny furnace computers slaving away on increasingly complex nonsense. (Also, way to prop up the preferred currency of Darknet pedophiles). OH BUT WAIT QUANTUM COMPUTING!
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I've read up on this blockchain poo poo and I'm still not sure I fully understand it. Its like self contained computers with blocks of data that link together? What is the supposed advantage of that?
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lol the much hyped Theranos presentation was literally a new product pitch with nothing that was certified or approved by regulators. It was literally a smokescreen to try to make people forget about the disaster. http://www.wsj.com/articles/theranos-founder-elizabeth-holmes-introduces-new-blood-testing-device-1470089582 quote:PHILADELPHIA—Theranos Inc. founder Elizabeth Holmes announced a new blood-testing device that she said would be capable of performing more tests than the company’s Edison machines.
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# ? Aug 2, 2016 00:21 |
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pentyne posted:resembling a computer printer So it was just a printer.
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cheese posted:I've read up on this blockchain poo poo and I'm still not sure I fully understand it. Its like self contained computers with blocks of data that link together? What is the supposed advantage of that? It is not that at all. It is a shared flat file anyone can write to, sequentially so as to not overwrite anything anyone else has written to it. If you're wondering how it's useful, congrats, it's not. People who know enough computers to think they're smart think the clever thing about is that what you write to it is digitally signed so it can't be forged. But that's trivial to do and certainly not anything innovative.
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Schubalts posted:So it was just a printer. You put in the samples and it prints out SHE LIES.
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Dr. Angela Ziegler posted:lol It failed the Beepi inspection because rodents had chewed the foam underneath the engine block. So he took it to the dealership, who had a car salesman look at it for maybe 2 minutes and then start doing standard carsalesman bullshit on price. He took the deal, but definitely felt like he got screwed in the process (as anyone who interacts with car salesmen does). Beepi has real opportunities here.
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I don't understand how Beepi is legal. I almost bought a car from the, until I realized that it was Sunday, and it's against the law to sell cars as a dealership on Sunday* in Texas. Why should I buy a car from a company that flaunts the law and accepts bitcoins. *(can't be open both weekend days basically)
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blugu64 posted:I don't understand how Beepi is legal. I almost bought a car from the, until I realized that it was Sunday, and it's against the law to sell cars as a dealership on Sunday* in Texas. Why should I buy a car from a company that flaunts the law and accepts bitcoins. Probably because that's a weird and loving stupid law
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Lady Naga posted:Probably because that's a weird and loving stupid law Then change the law, what other laws do you think are weird and stupid and thus think you don't have to follow?
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sarehu posted:You put in the samples and it prints out SHE LIES. Now I'm just imagining she had the whole thing preloaded with answers like The Wire... https://youtu.be/1KOXj97cfXM Edit: blugu64 posted:I don't understand how Beepi is legal. I almost bought a car from the, until I realized that it was Sunday, and it's against the law to sell cars as a dealership on Sunday* in Texas. Why should I buy a car from a company that flaunts the law and accepts bitcoins. They might be operating Sunday and not Saturday. There are a few dealerships that choose that because they get more business on Sunday.
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blugu64 posted:Then change the law, what other laws do you think are weird and stupid and thus think you don't have to follow? Most.
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e_angst posted:Now I'm just imagining she had the whole thing preloaded with answers like The Wire... How is she still CEO? Is anyone still giving her money? They must be burning through their cash reserves like crazy. http://fortune.com/2016/08/01/theranos-presentation-panned/ quote:Following Holmes’ presentation, several physicians and scientists in the crowd asked her tough questions about the company’s technology, leading some attendees to applaud. Holmes responded that she realized that there were “many questions” about the Edison devices, but that those would be addressed at an “appropriate forum” at a later time.
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Lady Naga posted:Probably because that's a weird and loving stupid law Used car dealership that is quick to disregard laws they think are silly. Nope, nothing bad could come from that.
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I don't really give a poo poo about the dealership I'm just saying that law is incredibly senseless and I come from a city that didn't allow Sunday shopping until like 2005.
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When I was researching Beepi the only negative reviews that I found were from people who were pissed their car was turned down, and other used car dealers who were pissed that they didn't have some mandatory signs posted at their location (they don't have a location that customers ever see).
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ocrumsprug posted:Used car dealership that is quick to disregard laws they think are silly. Lol, I made a prediction earlier in this thread and at the time I thought it was a little hyperbolic, but it looks like it actually came true: silence_kit posted:I sincerely believe that some posters in this thread would defend to the death even the most stupid, pointless, and wasteful government regulation if it gave them an opportunity to rag on a startup company.
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blugu64 posted:Then change the law, what other laws do you think are weird and stupid and thus think you don't have to follow?
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pentyne posted:lol the much hyped Theranos presentation was literally a new product pitch with nothing that was certified or approved by regulators. It was literally a smokescreen to try to make people forget about the disaster. http://www.businessinsider.com/theranos-scientific-presentation-aacc-conference-2016-8 I'm kind of irritated she didn't get dunked on in a real soundbite-y way (avoiding that was probably Holmes's #1 goal) but whatever, when they run out of money they're probably done for either way.
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silence_kit posted:Lol, I made a prediction earlier in this thread and at the time I thought it was a little hyperbolic, but it looks like it actually came true: Look I don't agree with the law, makes buying a car a hassle. What I'm saying is you don't get to pick and choose what laws you have to obey, and when you're blatantly flaunting one law....what else are you doing behind the scenes that I don't know about?
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When the Beepi guy came to buy my ex-wife's car, he parked his truck slightly into the red zone. That should have been my sign that something was up. Did you ask Beepi how they were operating on Sunday? The law is likely old and crusty, and may have it linked to physical location or similar.
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blugu64 posted:Look I don't agree with the law, makes buying a car a hassle. What I'm saying is you don't get to pick and choose what laws you have to obey, and when you're blatantly flaunting one law....what else are you doing behind the scenes that I don't know about? Are you seriously defending something stupid purely because it's a law? What's your opinion of North Carolina's bathroom law?
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For real. There are laws that make absolutely no sense and should not exist, and laws about what day of the week a store can operate on fall under that.
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