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Klyith posted:They will eventually force all programs to be UWP, and that will be the end of small and open source programmers! There's been some rumor that Steam will no longer work due to UWP or someshit in 5 years and MS will force everyone to download from the Windows Store. It's kind of funny.
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ThermoPhysical posted:There's been some rumor that Steam will no longer work due to UWP or someshit in 5 years and MS will force everyone to download from the Windows Store. It's kind of funny. That 'rumour' was from the head of Epic Games, who is apparently a huge loving moron.
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Aug 1, 2016 06:23
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WTF is dashline and why does Microsoft want me to have it? Also, isn't McAfee garbage? What would be good programs for antivirus?
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Shbobdb posted:WTF is dashline and why does Microsoft want me to have it? Also, isn't McAfee garbage? uBlock Origin is a good virus defence. If you also want something to scan for older things, just leave Windows Defender there, it's generally just fine.
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Aug 1, 2016 07:17
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PerrineClostermann posted:Microsoft would never move to shut out competition, control platforms, and act anti-competitively.
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ThermoPhysical posted:There's been some rumor that Steam will no longer work due to UWP or someshit in 5 years and MS will force everyone to download from the Windows Store. It's kind of funny. I never understood this. Can't steam write a UWP app so that in 5 years they aren't shut out? Or does Microsoft have that thing like Apple does, where in-app purchases of UWP apps have to give a percentage to them?
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Arsten posted:I never understood this. Can't steam write a UWP app so that in 5 years they aren't shut out? There's probably a clause that you can't make your own UWP app stores, because that would shut MS out of future transactions.
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Aug 1, 2016 14:39
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PerrineClostermann posted:Microsoft would never move to shut out competition, control platforms, and act anti-competitively. It was good that Microsoft killed the paid browser, and is killing the paid antivirus, and anyone who disagrees is crazy.
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1607 is up on the MSVLSC now, Pro and Enterprise (probably Education too).
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Aug 1, 2016 16:41
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Of all the things i have connected to my PC, why would Win10 decide that my Kingston Datatraveler DT2000 needs to communicate with Phone assistance app? I get a little  since I got the DT2000 for work stuff and personal information.
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Rusty! posted:1607 is up on the MSVLSC now, Pro and Enterprise (probably Education too). Not up on the Media Creation Tool side of things yet. If anyone's interested I will be reattempting download every 15 minutes just to check!
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I recently updated two old mac minis on BootCamp from Windows 7 to 10 and found the NIC "Broadcom NetXtreme Gigabit Ethernet" keeps on dying after ~10s. I rolled back to the driver on Broadcom's site and everything appears to be working, which is kinda surprising for a Mac.
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PerrineClostermann posted:Microsoft would never move to shut out competition, control platforms, and act anti-competitively. none of these strategies include "be a complete retard in ways that drive large numbers of people away from windows" I don't doubt that they would love to get rid of steam and capture all PC games revenue for themselves. But there is just zero chance they can do that without either a massive gently caress-up by valve (such that nobody wanted to use steam anymore), or facing a revolt by the entire gaming audience. Valve put in a few months of effort on SteamOS linux just to prove that they could, then let the whole thing slide into the land of abandoned valve projects. It was a warning shot. Platforms have a lot of strengths that can be used to bully the competition and control an industry, but the big con is that anything that damages the user base is damage to the platform as a whole. Just look at how fast they got reversal of fortune'd with the xbox one. None of the people who made those decisions still have jobs. DSLAM posted:Of all the things i have connected to my PC, why would Win10 decide that my Kingston Datatraveler DT2000 needs to communicate with Phone assistance app? I get a little Telefonassistent in english is the "Phone Companion App", a thing for syncing smartphones, not a thing for phoning home to microsoft. It wants to look at other devices because maybe there are multiple devices to sync. The thing about these settings is that it's a new way to block access. Older versions of windows, once you plug in the USB stick (plus the key for that DT2000), anything running on the computer could look at it. So if you have sensitive info on the DT2000 you could certainly block apps from reading it -- though this also means that you wouldn't be able to open a doc with office or whatever.
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So after upgrading from Windows 7 to Windows 10, I've found that in the Favorites dropdown list in file explorer, now called Quick Access, I can no longer rename the shortcuts. I have quite a few folders I want to put in that list that I need to name something different than the actual folder name, but I can't now, whereas I could in Windows 7. It's bad enough that the list is cluttered with the obnoxious grey pin icons next to every item in the list (yes, thank you for the constant reminder that the items I pinned in the list are in fact pinned in that list, I can't tell that they are pinned there by only the fact that they are pinned there). I can stand the clutter well enough but not being able to rename those folders isn't acceptable for workflow. Does anybody have any ideas as for how to fix this? If it can't be fixed, it's a deal breaker for me and I'll need to go back to Windows 7. GreatGreen fucked around with this message at 21:36 on Aug 1, 2016 |
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GreatGreen posted:So after upgrading from Windows 7 to Windows 10, I've found that in the Favorites dropdown list in file explorer, now called Quick Access, I can no longer rename the shortcuts. I have quite a few folders I want to put in that list that I need to name something different than the actual folder name, but I can't now, whereas I could in Windows 7. It's bad enough that the list is cluttered with the obnoxious grey pin icons next to every item in the list (yes, thank you for the constant reminder that the items I pinned in the list are in fact pinned in that list, I can't tell that they are pinned there by only the fact that they are pinned there). I can stand the clutter well enough but not being able to rename those folders isn't acceptable for workflow. Could you make shortcuts to the folders somewhere then rename the shortcuts then pin those instead of the folders themselves? I assume that's basically how it worked internally in Windows 7 anyway.
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Rexxed posted:Could you make shortcuts to the folders somewhere then rename the shortcuts then pin those instead of the folders themselves? I assume that's basically how it worked internally in Windows 7 anyway. I tried that and it doesn't work. Windows detects the shortcut and circumvents it, linking the actual folder again instead. So am I wrong or did Microsoft actually think of how people might customize this list and actively spend energy loving them out of it?
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GreatGreen posted:I tried that and it doesn't work. Windows detects the shortcut and circumvents it, linking the actual folder again instead. You could give using junction links a try: http://superuser.com/a/971232
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efb  GreatGreen posted:I tried that and it doesn't work. Windows detects the shortcut and circumvents it, linking the actual folder instead. You could make junction links into a new folder with a custom name, and then pin that to quick access. Potential for confusion though. I can't find where quick access is even kept, it's not searchable in the registry or user appdata. (I think the upside of this change is that quick access is more transparent to programs, because it is presented as actual folders rather than shortcuts.)
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GreatGreen posted:I tried that and it doesn't work. Windows detects the shortcut and circumvents it, linking the actual folder again instead. Wow, that's a weird design choice, and you can't even make a batch file and pin it to quick access since like you said, it's basically just for folders. You can make folders that are symbolic links to the other folders but have different names. I just tested it and it work, but it's more of a pain in the rear end. If you're just setting up a few folders now and then it'll do what you want, if you change them a lot it may be frustrating: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/16226/complete-guide-to-symbolic-links-symlinks-on-windows-or-linux/
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So, uh, does the Anniversary Update still require one of those 30-minute update cycles that renders the PC useless? Or in their year of planning have they maybe actually gotten it to upgrade within Windows Update with just a normal reboot required?
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Zero VGS posted:So, uh, does the Anniversary Update still require one of those 30-minute update cycles that renders the PC useless? Or in their year of planning have they maybe actually gotten it to upgrade within Windows Update with just a normal reboot required? No, it's basically a reinstall of the OS. I just finished it. Went quick and it give the option to keep my programs and files, which I did. It did reset some of my settings so I had dumb bullshit like Candy Crush again and Get Office, so I had to turn that poo poo off.
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Zero VGS posted:So, uh, does the Anniversary Update still require one of those 30-minute update cycles that renders the PC useless? Or in their year of planning have they maybe actually gotten it to upgrade within Windows Update with just a normal reboot required? Is this really that big of a deal? It's basically like one of those yearly macOS updates and those take about the same time to complete also...same for iPhone and Android updates to big new versions...
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chocolateTHUNDER posted:Is this really that big of a deal? It's basically like one of those yearly macOS updates and those take about the same time to complete also...same for iPhone and Android updates to big new versions... For 300 dummies at work? ~~my production~~ It's okay but I just have to make them aware and see if I can get most of them to fire it off at the end of the day so it isn't forced on them at a bad time.
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GreatGreen posted:. It's bad enough that the list is cluttered with the obnoxious grey pin icons next to every item in the list (yes, thank you for the constant reminder that the items I pinned in the list are in fact pinned in that list, I can't tell that they are pinned there by only the fact that they are pinned there).
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https://cloud.mail.ru/public/Jkdp/1JYvnNxXw/SW_DVD5_Win_Pro_10_1607_64BIT_English_MLF_X21-06988.ISO Here is pro You still need a legit key and all to use these. This is what the media tool will download tomorrow. To upgrade your existing copy just right click, mount the iso, and run setup.
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Don Lapre posted:https://cloud.mail.ru/public/Jkdp/1JYvnNxXw/SW_DVD5_Win_Pro_10_1607_64BIT_English_MLF_X21-06988.ISO Do Russian cloud ISO links come with FSB malware built-in, or is there a SHA256 we can compare to a legit microsoft-hosted ISO?
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If I wanted to do a Fresh install of W10 on a new SSD via USB. is my protduct key from my current W10 attached to my microsoft log in name, or do I have to hunt through my PC for the key?
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pmchem posted:Do Russian cloud ISO links come with FSB malware built-in, or is there a SHA256 we can compare to a legit microsoft-hosted ISO? These are from WZor. They are legit https://twitter.com/wzornet?lang=en
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pmchem posted:Do Russian cloud ISO links come with FSB malware built-in, or is there a SHA256 we can compare to a legit microsoft-hosted ISO? Volume licensing images don't have posted hashes that consumers can check. I'd wait for something more official just to be on the safe side.
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Fat_Cow posted:If I wanted to do a Fresh install of W10 on a new SSD via USB. is my protduct key from my current W10 attached to my microsoft log in name, or do I have to hunt through my PC for the key? It won't be attached to your MS account until you've upgraded to the Anniversary Edition (if you were logging into your computer with an MS account, this will be done automatically when you install Anniversary Edition). Is your license a digital entitlement (i.e. a free upgrade type install)? If so, you don't have a new product key for win10 - just leave that blank when installing on the SSD. If the hardware isn't otherwise changing significantly, it should activate without issue.
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So am I reading correctly that I'll have to toggle all the dumb privacy/telemetry/screenshotting bullshit off again after updating?
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PerrineClostermann posted:So am I reading correctly that I'll have to toggle all the dumb privacy/telemetry/screenshotting bullshit off again after updating? My personal favorite is that the SNMP service's settings get reset. The service is still there and running, but I have to reconfigure it. My personal least favorite are the 3 icons that they keep pinning to the taskbar (Edge, Store, and something else) even though there's zero way any per-user settings could get lost in the update. They just add them back in because they want to and gently caress you that's why.
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PerrineClostermann posted:So am I reading correctly that I'll have to toggle all the dumb privacy/telemetry/screenshotting bullshit off again after updating? Yes. I tested it on my work laptop and a virtual machine.
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Have they fixed the dumb Windows 10 activation nonsense? I want to activate it using my retail Windows 8.1 Pro license. It was originally activated that way but a motherboard upgrade broke it. Re-installing Windows 8.1 to do the upgrade thing has been always been a non-starter even before that offer ended.
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astral posted:It won't be attached to your MS account until you've upgraded to the Anniversary Edition (if you were logging into your computer with an MS account, this will be done automatically when you install Anniversary Edition). Yeah I upgraded for free from W 8.1 when it first was a thing. I have nothing on my C drive beside W10, and I won't lose anything for switching over to a 500 GB SSD
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Inverness posted:Have they fixed the dumb Windows 10 activation nonsense? I want to activate it using my retail Windows 8.1 Pro license. Activating 10 with a valid 8.1 key was working for about 9 months! However, now that the free upgrade period is over... e: They're also adding an activation troubleshooter in the anniversary update that can help resolve activation issues. If you have a valid digital entitlement and an MS account login before the upgrade, it'll be linked to your MS account afterwards which can even reactivate after significant hardware changes. e2: clarity astral fucked around with this message at 06:04 on Aug 2, 2016 |
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astral posted:Activating 10 with a valid 8.1 key was working for about 9 months! However, now that the free upgrade period is over... We activated a windows 10 with a 7 key on the first and it worked fine still.
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Zero VGS posted:For 300 dummies at work? ~~my production~~ You should be using Enterprise, and even if on Pro, you should have GP in place for this. This is not Microsoft's fault, for all their failings. This is 100% poor planning.
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