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myron cope posted:Do we have an idea when the new Nexus phones are coming out? I know nobody really knows, I don't know if there have been any rumors lately that I haven't been following that closely. I saw some spec leaks not too long ago and I guess people are fairly confident in those. I'm definitely replacing my Nexus 6 with the bigger one when it comes out. This month (assuming Google sticks with their documented process where device release and AOSP release are one in the same): https://twitter.com/evleaks/status/759266685891248131 Some of the Android Police staff on social media aren't even being subtle that they're in the know but aren't saying anything: https://twitter.com/RDR0b11/status/757636156154490880 https://twitter.com/RDR0b11/status/759106999405547521 quote:My biggest worry is that I didn't even realize HTC was still in business, I thought they folded like 2 years ago Understandable (especially given the state of the Nexus 9) but HTC's supposed demotion into a contract manufacturer might change the equation somewhat. It's not even clear if they'll even be branded "Nexus" this time round, given this Telegraph UK story back in June: quote:The technology giant is in discussions with mobile operators about releasing a Google-branded phone that will extend the company’s move into hardware, sources familiar with the discussions told The Telegraph. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2016/06/26/google-to-step-up-smartphone-wars-with-release-of-own-handset/ I dismissed it at the time, but given AP's recreation/render of the 2016 phones omits the Nexus logo altogether and despite everything else, they still don't know what it's called: https://twitter.com/RDR0b11/status/759111426061414401 it's probably spot on. And Google seem somewhat serious about it actually selling given teardowns of the latest Google app APK suggest the Google assistant will be exclusive to "Nexus" alongside Google Home: quote:<string name="assistant_settings_device_type_google_home">Google Home</string> The Google watch leak suggests the same Assistant exclusivity is true for for Android Wear. Seems the latest iteration on Sundar's (failed) Google Play edition/Android One/Android Silver strategy is to just outright drain the oxygen of non-Samsung Android phones by restricting the ecosystem until OEMs have no choice but to sign up and make "Google" devices themselves since none of them have viable brands. Vagrancy fucked around with this message at 13:22 on Aug 1, 2016 |
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bull3964 posted:EV Leaks has 7.0 launching this Friday. If true, hardware can't be far behind. Is there a different meaning for "launching"? It won't be released publicly without new hardware, no? Unless this cycle is going to be really different than usual.
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RVProfootballer posted:Is there a different meaning for "launching"? It won't be released publicly without new hardware, no? Unless this cycle is going to be really different than usual. No one really knows. Google doesn't always stick to the same conventions year after year. It's very possible it'll push out alongside the Aug security patch and the phones will follow later. It's not unprecedented, Froyo launched without new hardware. There's also reports that the LG V20 will be the first NEW phone released with 7.0. As much as I wouldn't want to wait till after September for new Nexus phones, it would be amusing to see the internet revolt over a non-Nexus being the first to launch with the latest version of Android. The only REAL thing we know is that 7.0 will launch before Sept 22nd as the constant refrain this entire time is that Nougat will launch in the summer. bull3964 fucked around with this message at 13:50 on Aug 1, 2016 |
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WattsvilleBlues posted:How come you're not on Marshmallow? I have a general rule for OS upgrades on Windows that's served me well: 1) Will all my old stuff that I like run on the new OS? 2) Are there things I specifically need the new OS to be able to run? and if 1) and 2) both fail I hold off on the upgrade. Marshmallow breaks one of my companion apps for one of my games and I don't know of apps I want that require it, so I've stuck with the known good. If Google hears my pleas and releases a new Nexus 7 this year, it'll have something newer on it.
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Vagrancy posted:This month (assuming Google sticks with their documented process where device release and AOSP release are one in the same): Interesting, thanks! I also hadn't heard about the watch(es) at all. I have a Pebble but may check one of those out too. What is the purpose of LTE in a watch? To use the watch without a phone at all? I thought that was the point of Android Wear 
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bull3964 posted:There's also reports that the LG V20 will be the first NEW phone released with 7.0. As much as I wouldn't want to wait till after September for new Nexus phones, it would be amusing to see the internet revolt over a non-Nexus being the first to launch with the latest version of Android. I had friends who (comically) were legit pissed when my OG MotoX got KitKat before their Nexus 4 (only getting beat out by the N5 by a sliver).
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So my replacement N5x came today. It's doing this odd thing where it gets full service, but no data. There's no little letter for H or LTE near the signal indicator either. If I reboot, or cycle airplane mode a bunch of will eventually get data, but it takes a few times. Maybe it's my SIM? I work next door to an AT&T store so I can grab a new SIM pretty easily. Wondering if I should factory reset or reflash the latest stock image. EDIT: Google and calling AT&T revealed my line and IMEI weren't provisioned for LTE. Called and had that done, and now I'm aces. Super-NintendoUser fucked around with this message at 17:25 on Aug 1, 2016 |
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http://www.droid-life.com/2016/08/01/lg-v20-first-android-7-0-nougat-phone/ Droid Life's reading of the tea leaves is thus. Nougat will launch with the Aug 5th security update, with meaning "included" and not "the same time." (confusing wording on the evleaks tweet.) They expect 7.0 to launch mid Aug, probably around the 18th. The V20 will indeed be the first phone to ship with 7.0 as their sources say the new Nexus phones will launch Oct 4th.
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Android Police says a new Launcher is coming to Nexus phones. It looks good but different and therefor scary. http://www.androidpolice.com/2016/08/01/exclusive-this-is-googles-new-nexus-launcher-that-may-debut-on-the-2016-nexus-phones/
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Luchadork posted:Android Police says a new Launcher is coming to Nexus phones. It looks good but different and therefor scary. http://www.androidpolice.com/2016/08/01/exclusive-this-is-googles-new-nexus-launcher-that-may-debut-on-the-2016-nexus-phones/ Looks awesome as hell. Hopefully we can add some icon themes.
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bull3964 posted:The V20 will indeed be the first phone to ship with 7.0 as their sources say the new Nexus phones will launch Oct 4th. I hope it isn't that late  , like 2 or 3 weeks from now seems like a good time
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Luchadork posted:Android Police says a new Launcher is coming to Nexus phones. It looks good but different and therefor scary. http://www.androidpolice.com/2016/08/01/exclusive-this-is-googles-new-nexus-launcher-that-may-debut-on-the-2016-nexus-phones/ Still not a fan of the icons, but the drawer looks really slick. Really liking that they finally got rid of the redundant search bar, not so much that you can't touch the calendar widget. Overall though, it looks really promising.
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Luchadork posted:Android Police says a new Launcher is coming to Nexus phones. It looks good but different and therefor scary. http://www.androidpolice.com/2016/08/01/exclusive-this-is-googles-new-nexus-launcher-that-may-debut-on-the-2016-nexus-phones/ Party like it's Android 0.9! 
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Hope that's true, it's definitely more efficient than the app drawer button. And maybe there's a hidden setting somewhere for the calendar thing...
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Vagrancy posted:
Their code names are Sailfish and Marlin, so obviously they'll be called the Nexus S&M. 
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Sir Lemming posted:Hope that's true, it's definitely more efficient than the app drawer button. And maybe there's a hidden setting somewhere for the calendar thing... How is it any more efficient than the app drawer? Whether you pull it up or it's "behind" the desktop, it's still just a shitload of apps. It seems like you get to pick 5 (rather than 4) apps to put in the dock but beyond that it's the same alphabetical list of installed apps with no categorization or user control. The fact that they change the app drawer with every version really goes to show that there just isn't a good way to handle this. Even iOS which is all app drawer doesn't do a good job, needing both a search function and a lot of manual fiddling to make it work. Though at least there you can manage things somewhat using folders which you can't in the Android app drawer. The problem comes from the fact that there are some apps you have to have installed but don't really want or need in the drawer, like paid app keys, utilities, and preinstalled, non-disableable system apps (none of which have an iOS analog now). I can understand why hiding apps wouldn't be a function for the stock launcher but without that function or organizational tools the app drawer will always be a mess. The Android "solution" for what it's worth seems to be to let the drawer be a mess and to use the desktop for what you really care about while searching for the rest but I have a tough time accepting that that's the most elegant way to solve the problem or it is one that users actually understand and use though I don't have the data to know what users do and presumably Google does. It should be noted that out of the box the Play Store installs app shortcuts to the home screen and if I had to guess I'd say that most users' desktops are just as messy and disorganized as their app drawer. Either way I don't see where these changes do anything to address the core problem of disorganized app drawers.
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The efficiency here might just be that your drawer has room for one more app?
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The Dark One posted:The efficiency here might just be that your drawer has room for one more app? You mean the dock not the drawer but I think we can agree that's small potatos. It's slightly better than a shortcut on the homescreen of the desktop.
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LastInLine posted:You mean the dock not the drawer but I think we can agree that's small potatos. It's slightly better than a shortcut on the homescreen of the desktop. Definitely a sign I need to go to bed.
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LastInLine posted:paid app keys
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LastInLine posted:How is it any more efficient than the app drawer? Whether you pull it up or it's "behind" the desktop, it's still just a shitload of apps. It seems like you get to pick 5 (rather than 4) apps to put in the dock Yeah that.
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I'm trying out a note 5 and I like it but the sound isn't doing it for me. I don't care about cameras. Just great audio (I wear headphones at work all night listening to podcasts) and a great colorful screen. Should I got Moto Z or HTC 10?
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Tunga posted:While I don't disagree with the general point you're making, apps are not required to include a launcher activity (which is what makes it appear in the drawer). Apps that genuinely do nothing shouldn't be there and it is the app dev's fault. I went and checked and of course you're right. The only app key I have in the drawer is for Nova (but in my defense that might be the only app key I have). I have a lot of mostly useless apps though where the icon is present only so you can enter settings (Swype, a few widget apps, some Wear apps) and I find those just as annoying.
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LastInLine posted:Though at least [in iOS] you can manage things somewhat using folders which you can't in the Android app drawer.
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LastInLine posted:I went and checked and of course you're right. The only app key I have in the drawer is for Nova (but in my defense that might be the only app key I have). I have a lot of mostly useless apps though where the icon is present only so you can enter settings (Swype, a few widget apps, some Wear apps) and I find those just as annoying. I think the Nova Launcher Prime icon is supposed to disappear from the app drawer after the first time you click on it.
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I replaced the screen on my Nexus 5, and lo I rejoiced that my phone wasn't falling apart any more. Cheap enough that I'm happy upgrading to the new Nexus when they come out. A problem has emerged though that the mobile antenna seems to be working far less well. I can't get signal in my bedroom unless I open the window and hold there phone outside. I've checked the connections inside and everything seems to be working properly. When I've got signal it's fine and can easily get full bars but it seems like instead of getting weaker reception it just cuts out. Any suggestions?
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LastInLine posted:The Android "solution" for what it's worth seems to be to let the drawer be a mess and to use the desktop for what you really care about while searching for the rest but I have a tough time accepting that that's the most elegant way to solve the problem or it is one that users actually understand and use though I don't have the data to know what users do and presumably Google does. It should be noted that out of the box the Play Store installs app shortcuts to the home screen and if I had to guess I'd say that most users' desktops are just as messy and disorganized as their app drawer.
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The Merkinman posted:iOS doesn't have an app drawer at all so you can get the same level of management in Android as you can iOS. The launcher in iOS is more analogous to the app drawer than it is to the desktop. The desktop by its nature is not all apps, whereas the app drawer is exactly that: All of your apps. That distinction has been blurred by the general uselessness of widgets for most people but there it is. My point is that iOS (before you could disable system apps you don't want in the latest release) at least allowed you put everything you didn't use into a junk folder. I suppose you could make the argument that at least Android puts things in a sensible order in the drawer whereas iOS just put them in the order they were installed. I would contend that neither do a very good job of hands-off organization and that any ease of use comes from the user either organizing things themselves or hunting for things and memorizing their locations. My experience with most users mirrors Endless Mike's: Endless Mike posted:Every Android users I know who is not a phone sperg just puts all their apps on their homescreens exactly like iOS users, only they don't actually seem to bother to organize them and occasionally will somehow pocket-move/delete things and not know where they are. I have no idea how this happens. Vykk.Draygo posted:I think the Nova Launcher Prime icon is supposed to disappear from the app drawer after the first time you click on it.  So it does!
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Don't forget that the play store, by default, puts new apps directly on the home screens when installing.
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RBX posted:I'm trying out a note 5 and I like it but the sound isn't doing it for me. I don't care about cameras. Just great audio (I wear headphones at work all night listening to podcasts) and a great colorful screen. Should I got Moto Z or HTC 10? Sound all that matters? Axon 7 if you don't insist on a major brand. No clue how supported the software will be but the hardware is top notch. Newegg has it for $399 and includes a free $199 pair of headphones. hotsauce fucked around with this message at 15:23 on Aug 2, 2016 |
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The Dark One posted:Party like it's Android 0.9! I'm not even joking, I was mad I missed this party when I got my first Android phone.
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LastInLine posted:I can understand why hiding apps wouldn't be a function for the stock launcher but without that function or organizational tools the app drawer will always be a mess. Why though? As far as I know Touchwiz, Sense, and LG all allow folders and hiding apps from the drawer.
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Honestly the only feature I really want in the Google Launcher anyhow is the ability to make folders within the app drawer. Just give us that, Google.
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Luchadork posted:Honestly the only feature I really want in the Google Launcher anyhow is the ability to make folders within the app drawer. Just give us that, Google. This is pretty much the biggest thing I love about Nova Launcher.
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Thermopyle posted:Embrace search and discard the antiquated idea of app drawers. Embrace bigotry against dyslexics? Embrace not being able to review your apps outside a technical menu? Sometimes the status quo has earned its place.
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Sir Unimaginative posted:Embrace bigotry against dyslexics? Yes, I was seriously recommending doing away with the app drawer and not recommending people try just searching for their apps instead of micromanaging them by nesting folders or giving excessive cares about what did or did not show up in the app drawer.
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