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Mr Hootington posted:so has CD comic thread melted down or have they worked themselves into a tizzy over no one realizing the true greatness of the director and the movie being a modern day classic. Don't post about other forums/threads. Their feelings/thoughts on the movie aren't going to hurt you.
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X-O posted:Don't post about other forums/threads. Their feelings/thoughts on the movie aren't going to hurt you. CineD's reactions are actually mirroring this thread pretty well about SS. Disappointment and a lot of worrying about what this means for Wonder Woman.
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X-O posted:Don't post about other forums/threads. Their feelings/thoughts on the movie aren't going to hurt you. ok. I will giggle to myself. Content: If SS bombs, what does WB do? pull the plug on movies that are not shooting? another reboot? or do they triple down? I can not wait until next week. I also hope it does good enough so the DCCU limps along, but marvel stays good because they are good movies.
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Aug 3, 2016 00:16
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rantmo posted:That was the location of the specific screening I'd won a pass to, otherwise I would have stayed the hell in the city. Hillside? Because I "won" a pass to that movie as well.
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Egh, it sucks that SS is apparently living up to my first impressions of it. I was just getting to like the cast...the non-Leto parts of the crew are really very awesome.Mr Hootington posted:so has CD comic thread melted down or have they worked themselves into a tizzy over no one realizing the true greatness of the director and the movie being a modern day classic. e: oops didn't see the thing. Ah well, worth it. BrianWilly fucked around with this message at 00:32 on Aug 3, 2016 |
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Aug 3, 2016 00:29
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aaannnnddd the DC fan meltdown has already begun https://twitter.com/johnd0p3/status/760596902106787840
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Aug 3, 2016 00:31
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I know this movie is fantastic despite the fact that I haven't seen it.
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FlamingLiberal posted:aaannnnddd the DC fan meltdown has already begun Signed
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Skimming the Suicide Squad movie reviews, it sounds like Harley Quinn is handled in a pretty bad way, i.e. "the sexiest abuse victim", and her flashbacks to the Joker are less "look at this hosed up poo poo Harley endured" and more "look how cool Joker is (while being abusive)". Obviously having not seen the movie myself I can't say for sure if that's the case, but that's definitely what I was really holding out hope wouldn't happen and seeing reviews mention it's there makes me much less excited to see the film. FlamingLiberal posted:aaannnnddd the DC fan meltdown has already begun I'm like 90% sure that person's trolling, but I like how the petition implies Rotten Tomatoes has their own critics that review films, instead of just going out and getting reviews from a bunch of critics from around the web.
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DrProsek posted:Skimming the Suicide Squad movie reviews, it sounds like Harley Quinn is handled in a pretty bad way, i.e. "the sexiest abuse victim", and her flashbacks to the Joker are less "look at this hosed up poo poo Harley endured" and more "look how cool Joker is (while being abusive)".
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FlamingLiberal posted:aaannnnddd the DC fan meltdown has already begun wow a whole two examples huh
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DrProsek posted:Skimming the Suicide Squad movie reviews, it sounds like Harley Quinn is handled in a pretty bad way, i.e. "the sexiest abuse victim", and her flashbacks to the Joker are less "look at this hosed up poo poo Harley endured" and more "look how cool Joker is (while being abusive)". Holding out hope that DC would portray Joker as the creepy rapey abusive rear end in a top hat he is over glorifying in how much of a badass he is is a fool's errand. Joker is one of DC's most popular characters and their fans love it when he's batting Harley around like a rented mule. They know what side their bread is buttered. NieR Occomata fucked around with this message at 00:46 on Aug 3, 2016 |
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:wow a whole two examples huh
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The whole bribing Rotten Tomatoes thing doesn't make sense to me because the site just aggregates reviews as far as I'm aware.
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Hah, there is a change.org petition to shut down Rotten Tomatoes because of the bad reviews of Suicide Squad. Why can't cynical nerds just accept that WB has no idea what to do with the DC movie franchise? We know that Batman the Joker are the best things ever, but just because they're in something doesn't mean they're automatically in the best thing ever.
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I'm definitely still going to see it. I'm disappointed though. I want success for all the non-Leto people involved. I would've been just happy if I could give out about the Joker parts and enjoy the rest of the movie. Sounds kinda icky though.
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twistedmentat posted:Hah, there is a change.org petition to shut down Rotten Tomatoes because of the bad reviews of Suicide Squad. Dude like, ten posts up man.
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It sucks seeing these movies come out and then get panned so hard. I want DC's movie to be good since I like them more than Marvel in general, but each movie comes out and seems to just demonstrate that their movie division has no idea what it's doing so far.
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They've produced/overseen/who knows two good movies, so it's not that bad.
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Aug 3, 2016 01:07
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I really wonder what WB's response is going to be. I can't imagine they're particularly pleased that DIsney holds all three top-grossing slots despite it being Superman v. Batman year.
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twistedmentat posted:Hah, there is a change.org petition to shut down Rotten Tomatoes because of the bad reviews of Suicide Squad. Why can't cynical nerds just accept that WB has no idea what to do with the DC movie franchise? We know that Batman the Joker are the best things ever, but just because they're in something doesn't mean they're automatically in the best thing ever.
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Ferrule posted:Hillside? Because I "won" a pass to that movie as well. As someone who grew up in Hillside, IL I can tell you guys with wasn't worth the trip.
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X-O posted:Dammit. Still going to see it on Friday, but man I was hoping this was finally the one they got right. Most damning quote I've seen so far? "If you can believe it, Suicide Squad is even worse than Fantastic Four" Yiiiiiiiiikes.
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JT Smiley posted:As someone who grew up in Hillside, IL I can tell you guys with wasn't worth the trip. As someone who endured Godzilla '98 there, you are right. Probably the only time I've ever been there.
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Toxxupation posted:Dude like, ten posts up man. What I get for leaving a post unposted for like a half hour. achillesforever6 posted:I love how much of a mess DC is in when they have ownership of all their properties while Marvel is pretty fractured, but can still make entertainingly fun movies. I really want to know what's going on with WB. Are they so god drat up their own asses that their movies are serious films while Marvel's are silly kids movies, so they keep trying to make movies that are beyond what they are capable? Or maybe they're like Nintendo, and know that there are die hards that will consume anything that has Batman/Mario in it that they can poo poo stuff out and know there will be ticket sales.
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achillesforever6 posted:I love how much of a mess DC is in when they have ownership of all their properties while Marvel is pretty fractured, but can still make entertainingly fun movies. I'm willing to bet...a large amount of money that it's entirely due to the fact that instead of getting bought out to avoid bankruptcy Marvel had to do the fire sale/restructuring bit in the late nineties, keeping their autonomy, then created Marvel Studios when they started building up the MCU as a Thing. They were able to keep their creative direction (and therefore control), as opposed to DC which didn't even have a movie division until this year. So, instead, DC has had to rely on WB's studio structure (which came with attendant oversight), which has contributed to the unfocused, reactionary, formulated-by-committee atmosphere both BvS and (apparently) SS have. Compounding further is that Disney as a global company seems to have adopted a creative hands-off atmosphere to their subsidary movie studios, considering how much of a mess the Pixar relationship was pre-buyout (and how Pixar seems to have been more or less left alone to do whatever they want as the House of Mouse has focused on rebuilding Disney Animation into a prestigious brand). Disney seems more interested in the merchandizing/commercial exploitation aspect of Marvel movies (especially since they have their own studio system built from scratch that, so far, has been producing endless hits) over direct hands-on input, unlike WB.
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There's a lot of people ITT that are like "Oh no, this sucks. I'm still gonna see it though". Like you realize you don't have to go see it? I know we're comic nerds and we feel like we have to be aware of comic nerd stuff, often to our detriment, but really, you don't have to go see it. I went and saw BvS because I felt like I had to form an opinion on it, because I'm real into Batman. I wish I hadn't! I'm not going to go see movies that I think will be terrible anymore.
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Yeah see rather than spend the money and time seeing a movie which you know will be bad, you could not.
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My sister gets free tickets at the movie theater she works at, so I might see it, but I'm not paying for it.
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Sentinel Red posted:Most damning quote I've seen so far? Well I don't believe that at all. Travis343 posted:There's a lot of people ITT that are like "Oh no, this sucks. I'm still gonna see it though". I'm not going to take anyone's word as fact on whether a movie is good or not before I see it. The only thing that will keep me from seeing a movie is if I think the movie doesn't look good. I've liked almost everything I've seen of Suicide Squad so far. So it's a bummer that people aren't digging it, but I won't let that dissuade me from seeing something I still think looks good. X-O fucked around with this message at 02:31 on Aug 3, 2016 |
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I believe it's probably not very good, but also every two bit blogger wants to be the one who trashed it the most.
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Travis343 posted:There's a lot of people ITT that are like "Oh no, this sucks. I'm still gonna see it though". It's almost like people have different tastes in movies and would like to be able to form their opinion, and have differing amounts of free time and cash that they're willing to put forth in things that might interest them.
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It seems like DC is just missing someone like a Kevin Feige who was a fan of the comics first, and second had no existing association to them when pulled in to co-produce/produce. Geoff Johns is not the answer because he's too close as a creator.
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I'd say it's worse than that considering this seems to suffer from editing problems just like BvS.
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I'm conflicted. I've enjoyed the trailers. But the actual film clips (aside from the trailers)I've seen in some of the promotional materials seem...dull.
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MrAristocrates posted:I'd say it's worse than that considering this seems to suffer from editing problems just like BvS. I haven't seen Suicide Squad, but they had a lot of last minute reshoots, with some noise about how it was trying to be more "whimsical" and "quippy". It's possible the editing issues are a result of trying to change what the movie is at the last minute, like Fantastic Four.
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Ireallylikeeggs posted:Yeah see rather than spend the money and time seeing a movie which you know will be bad, you could not. I'm not spending money to see a movie, I'm spending money to spend time with my friends where afterwards we will talk and laugh about how good/bad it was.
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That RT score says that a third of the audience likes the movie. If they liked what they saw in the trailers and clips, that's pretty good odds they'll be with that third.
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Travis343 posted:There's a lot of people ITT that are like "Oh no, this sucks. I'm still gonna see it though". I'm going to go because I want to form my own opinion. I'd wager that's what most people are thinking when they say that. It's not really a completely unfathomable thing. And hey, after MoS I thought I would hate BvS. It turned out to just be aggressively ok.
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Mr Hootington posted:Content: If SS bombs, what does WB do? pull the plug on movies that are not shooting? another reboot? or do they triple down? Nothing. SS is unlikely to bomb - in terms of making money. Critical reviews won't change a drat thing. In order for them to change anything major, would require a huge loss. Like gargantuan. Like literally no one shows up for the Friday premier huge. And then, being DC, they will take the wrong lesson from it. "People don't like racially diverse ensemble casts." "Joker wasn't lovely enough." "Croc should have been GC" "Should have used the other Queen song in the trailer" Sentinel Red posted:Most damning quote I've seen so far? Source please, because if it's a reviewer I like, this has just cemented my "Not gonna go" position. X-O posted:I'm not going to take anyone's word as fact on whether a movie is good or not before I see it. The only thing that will keep me from seeing a movie is if I think the movie doesn't look good. I've liked almost everything I've seen of Suicide Squad so far. So it's a bummer that people aren't digging it, but I won't let that dissuade me from seeing something I still think looks good. See, I was on the verge because I like the idea of an SS movie. The concept is classic - it's The Dirty Dozen meets Batman. Great. But with Leto-Joker and all the garbage surrounding him and his antics*, it has completely turned me off the idea. I feel as though if I pay for a movie ticket, I'm sending the wrong message. I'm saying "More of this, please". *On that note, either it's bullshit ("Joker's so crazy our actor had to get crazy to learn what it was like - pass it on") or Jared Leto is a loving sociopath, and gently caress that.
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