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Peztopiary posted:How many people (roughly) would you be okay with draining of blood and life if it let you live forever? The Red Cross does this every single day. Takes some people's blood so other, usually better off people, can live a little longer. The real difference is the amount of actual medical science underlying the treatment.
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ikanreed posted:The Red Cross does this every single day. Takes some people's blood so other, usually better off people, can live a little longer. I got a letter today thanking me very much for my donations and it came with a bronze-coloured card. 
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Peztopiary posted:How many people (roughly) would you be okay with draining of blood and life if it let you live forever? Debates like these are full of people so busy worrying if they should, that they don't stop to worry whether they could.
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Living forever seems really awful. Baby boomers are going nuts right now because the world changed too much for their fragile brains to handle. Imagine if there were like former centurions from the Fifth Legion running around getting in dude's faces about burnt offerings to Saturn so we'd finally put Iraq to the sword. It is a terrible thing to have the world outlive you, and a worse thing to be a retrograde garbage merchant making GBS threads up a world that's trying to keep moving.
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Jack Gladney posted:Living forever seems really awful. Baby boomers are going nuts right now because the world changed too much for their fragile brains to handle. Imagine if there were like former centurions from the Fifth Legion running around getting in dude's faces about burnt offerings to Saturn so we'd finally put Iraq to the sword. Philosophical questions are fun when your brain isn't filled with garbage 
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Jack Gladney posted:Living forever seems really awful. Baby boomers are going nuts right now because the world changed too much for their fragile brains to handle. Imagine if there were like former centurions from the Fifth Legion running around getting in dude's faces about burnt offerings to Saturn so we'd finally put Iraq to the sword. Who cares about 'the world', though? If we're positing immortality tech, I can get a decent VR rig, or at least a bunch of old books. What's bizarre is as I was typing this, the guys on the Abject Suffering bad videogame podcast (Zombie Nation ep) were inexplicably discussing the exact same, with one of them taking the 'I'd do anything, including vampires' stance and the other...not. It's way more interesting than anything I'd say. OkCupid used to ask 'how many people would you let die to survive'... I started reading Ligotti. He puts into words what I've intuitively thought my whole life. It's horrifying. Thiel seems like some kind of logical end state of Silicon Valley solipsism, but I'm still kinda shocked at McInnes going full on MRA/racist. I used to like Vice, even though it was trash.
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The McInnes MRA/racism didn't surprise me, but the religious conversion did.
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ikanreed posted:The Red Cross does this every single day. Takes some people's blood so other, usually better off people, can live a little longer. Speaking from experience the blood doesn't let you outlive your mortal lifespan it merely delays an early inevitable. Now if you'll excuse me I hunger for the blood of moderately-obese edgelords and must go feed.
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Wait, wait. So, what if he arranges it so that people volunteer their blood? And in our dystopian near-future, aspiring engineers will actually submit applications to give up their warm, youthy undergrad blood to the STEMOverloard?
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Peztopiary posted:How many people (roughly) would you be okay with draining of blood and life if it let you live forever? But just think of all the perfectly good child blood we let go to waste inside starving third world children! We should import them and give them all the soylent they want in exchange for it. Alternatively: Uber but for child blood. Bloober.
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In which PZ Myers, obnoxious strident skeptic and Actual Biologist, says Thiel, you loving idiot.
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Thiel is worried there's no monetization strategy for parabiosis, but surely there is an opportunity for quality brands. Rich people aren't going to want to inject the blood of just any dirty poor.
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divabot posted:In which PZ Myers, obnoxious strident skeptic and Actual Biologist, says Thiel, you loving idiot. PZ Myers has always seemed like a hard guy to get along with, but I'm glad he's still around because it's super refreshing at least one member of the Old Guard of New Atheism hasn't gone completely swanfighting insane.
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PZ is my hero. He is also really good at explaining why evopsych  is dumb and wrong.
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I'll sell Thiel my blood. He's gonna have to pay premium for it though, I've got six other billionairs making offers on it.
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neonnoodle posted:PZ is my hero. He is also really good at explaining why evopsych It really hurts how many legitimate fields of science get a bad reputation because shitheads co-opt them for legitimacy. I imagine most academics who actually study evolutionary psychology resent the political arguments dragged into the field by racist and sexist lay people.
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Jonas Albrecht posted:I'll sell Thiel my blood. He's gonna have to pay premium for it though, I've got six other billionairs making offers on it. Since he doesn't know what property it is that will keep him young, I recommend selling him red ink instead. Easier on the veins. Surely the obvious outcome of this isn't a blood market, but a permanent dialysis-esque machine system?
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Somfin posted:Since he doesn't know what property it is that will keep him young, I recommend selling him red ink instead. Easier on the veins. The best possible outcome from this is the invention and affordable production of lab-grown human blood. I mean honestly, harvesting the stuff normally involves vetting thousands of icky peasants. It's gross and inefficient, just like everything else involving people who aren't Peter Thiel.
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But then poor people don't suffer for being poor.
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The Lone Badger posted:But then poor people don't suffer for being poor. Nobody's stopping the rich from still taking poors' blood for sport. Fox hunting isn't about eating fox roast, after all.
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Men are polygynous. Women are serially monogamous. Women are hypergamous. It follows that the mean number of sexual partners a man has will always be enormously larger than the median number of sexual partners a man has. The mean number of sexual partners a woman has is necessarily equal to the mean number of sexual partners a man has. It follows that the median number of sexual partners a woman has will always be larger than the median number of sexual partners a man has.
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Sax Solo posted:Thiel is worried there's no monetization strategy for parabiosis, but surely there is an opportunity for quality brands. Rich people aren't going to want to inject the blood of just any dirty poor. The monetisation strategy is the "patient-funded trial" alt-med scam, the same loophole the despicable quack Burzynski used.
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Space Poodle posted:The McInnes MRA/racism didn't surprise me, but the religious conversion did. UGH, what is that douche up to now? pookel posted:Comment from Reddit where this was discussed: your av in tandem with your post seems fitting somehow  EDIT: Meanwhile, in Alabama: Alabama Police Enters Man's Home Without Warrant and Disrespects Home Owner this whole vid is surreal to me. Its the type of poo poo you see and hear in period piece film  BornAPoorBlkChild has a new favorite as of 16:09 on Aug 3, 2016 |
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Oh divabot, any word on the physical copies of N:AB?
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neonnoodle posted:It really is almost the same thing as Deep Green Resistance/radfem anarcho-primitivism. Civilization as literal and figurative rape. radfem at times feels like some weird, awful MRA strawman
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Race Realists posted:radfem at times feels like some weird, awful MRA strawman For about 10 years every bloviating fedora was really eager to tell you all about the founder and president of feminism Valerie Solanas. I don't know what happened with that strategy. They got a lot more into racism and video game ethics, I guess.
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Race Realists posted:radfem at times feels like some weird, awful MRA strawman The worst radfem is still better than the best MRA
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Magnusth posted:The worst radfem is still better than the best MRA No, they're loving godawful insane stalkers who will do their best to ruin your life over an imagined slight years ago. Their favored target is "wrong" feminists, aka anyone who disagreed with them on some minutiae in the past or had the audacity of not fitting into their rigid gender conceptions. Cathy Brennan Delenda Est. The only better thing about them is they're extremely few in number compared to MRAs.
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Kinda hilarious people think 3rd Wave Feminism is the evil intolerant one just because it's the one Anita Sarkeesian belongs to, when Cathy Brennan exist.
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Magnusth posted:The worst radfem is still better than the best MRA Both of them want me dead so excuse me if I don't really care where on the gradient each fit.
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The Vosgian Beast posted:Anita Sarkeesian I don't know why people think she's so bad, I got linked an article interviewing her by a friend who's particularly left on most things and not generally a bad person but who was OUTRAGED at her opinions on videogames where she said things like... "maybe the girl character whose only character trait at all is "likes the color pink" is a bad idea." She wasn't even confrontational about it or call for the mass banning of videogames and deportation of all waifus or whatever, she just pointed things out and suggested ways in the future that videogame developers could make women characters better  I mean I get that nerds can't stand women having opinions on
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Parallel Paraplegic posted:I don't know why people think she's so bad, I got linked an article interviewing her by a friend who's particularly left on most things and not generally a bad person but who was OUTRAGED at her opinions on videogames where she said things like... "maybe the girl character whose only character trait at all is "likes the color pink" is a bad idea." She wasn't even confrontational about it or call for the mass banning of videogames and deportation of all waifus or whatever, she just pointed things out and suggested ways in the future that videogame developers could make women characters better It's not weird at all. They don't give a poo poo about transpeople, they care a whole bunch about minorities getting uppity about "their" toys. Also, Cathy and other TERFs have made temporary alliances with Alt-Righters in the past, so
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Small Frozen Thing posted:It's not weird at all. They don't give a poo poo about transpeople, they care a whole bunch about minorities getting uppity about "their" toys. I know they don't care about transpeople but TERF's tend to be terrible about everything, not just that, and it would let them concern troll a lot harder. Then again I'm kinda analyzing this as some kind of coordinated political strategy rather than a bunch of manchildren having a collective tantrum so whatever
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Parallel Paraplegic posted:I mean I get that nerds can't stand women having opinions on Anita Sarkeesian isn't a TERF tho? https://twitter.com/femfreq/status/523221137770020864
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Tesseraction posted:Anita Sarkeesian isn't a TERF tho? He just phrased it poorly.
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Ohh, PP meant that there are TERFs out there that could be picked up as the shitbags, not that Anita is one.
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