Cumslut1895 posted:

Is society responsible for Schizophrenic people believing in Lizard-man conspiracies?

ChickenOfTomorrow posted:

well maybe if society weren't full of lizard-people the people with schizophrenia wouldn't see them everywhere

e: ugh, worst snype. Here, have a link: http://kernelmag.dailydot.com/issue-sections/headline-story/16932/usenet-sharon-lopatka-consensual-murder/

Cumslut1895 posted:

Is society responsible for Schizophrenic people believing in Lizard-man conspiracies?

http://www.pbs.org/wnet/brain/episode3/cultures/ posted:

Some cultural differences are also apparent in the kind of delusions that occur in schizophrenia patients. Often, the delusions tend to reflect the predominant themes and values of a person's culture. For example, in Ireland, where religious piety is highly valued, patients with schizophrenia often have delusions of sainthood. In industrially advanced countries like America, patients' delusions tend to focus on sinister uses of technology and surveillance. Patients may report that they are being spied on by their televisions or that they are being X-rayed when they walk down the street. In Japan, a country that prizes honor and social conformity, delusions often revolve around slander or the fear of being humiliated publicly. In Nigeria, where mental illness is believed to be caused by evil spirits, delusions may take the form of witches or ancestral ghosts.

Shady Amish Terror posted:

....I mean, sort of, yes?

Jack Gladney posted:

I'm pretty sure this guy has come up in this thread before, but it's fascinating to see what's the same and what's different in pre-modern cases of schizophrenia. Remote interference via technology is the same, only it's a loom that shoots noises at him because he didn't have radio or tv to draw on for his fantasy:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Tilly_Matthews

Cumslut1895 posted:

#ToxicWeaving #KillAllLooms

Abugadu posted:

#Illoominati

Rondette posted:

....have I missed it or has there been no resolution to the Australian Tornado tale?

Rondette posted:

....have I missed it or has there been no resolution to the Australian Tornado tale? I NEED TO KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO THE DOG

Jack Gladney posted:

I'm pretty sure this guy has come up in this thread before, but it's fascinating to see what's the same and what's different in pre-modern cases of schizophrenia. Remote interference via technology is the same, only it's a loom that shoots noises at him because he didn't have radio or tv to draw on for his fantasy:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Tilly_Matthews

Jack Gladney posted:

This isn't a very good post or discussion for this thread, but these are not binary options. Autism didn't make him a self-hating racist and it didn't tell him that women should die for not throwing themselves at him and thereby depriving him of the only experience that would make him a real and full man.

One More Fat Nerd posted:

He can be an MRA and a turbosperg and a schizo at the same time. My money was on narcissistic personality disorder.

One More Fat Nerd posted:

Somebody post that .gif of beavis in front of the tombstone. I'd post it myself but I'm phonepostin'

Arsenic Lupin posted:

Quoting for emphasis. When you have a mass shooting that is aimed only at women, and where the letters left behind explain the killer's animus toward women in particular (see also the École Polytechnique massacre, which deserves its own post), it can be both a piece of mental illness and an attack specifically on women, just as Sandy Hook was explicitly an attack on children.

Jose posted:

Aesop Poprock posted:

Elliot Rodger having a small penis doesn't make me feel any better about his mental state and him killing people tbqh

Clarion Ledger posted:

“Gone” tells the story of Mississippi native Felix Vail and the people whose paths he crossed. Vail goes on trial Aug. 8 in Lake Charles, Louisiana — the oldest prosecution of a serial-killer suspect in U.S. history. Vail is charged in the 1962 death of his first wife, and authorities suspect he is connected to the disappearances of two other women.

Jack Gladney posted:

Even his family members said that his confession video was the most they had ever heard him speak at one time in his entire life. He's the embodiment of male entitlement.

One thread from his weird autobiography was that he could never enjoy fiction or movies and just liked video games, but that he loved the Game of Thrones novels because there was a character he really related to but never named in his writing--just that he really related to this character in a way he had never related to anyone before. There was a lot of speculation over who he was talking about. Geoffrey? Ramsay? Littlefinger? There are so many possibilities, and the world will never know.

Zamboni_Rodeo posted:

http://www.clarionledger.com/pages/interactives/gone/

Jack Gladney posted:

I'm pretty sure this guy has come up in this thread before, but it's fascinating to see what's the same and what's different in pre-modern cases of schizophrenia. Remote interference via technology is the same, only it's a loom that shoots noises at him because he didn't have radio or tv to draw on for his fantasy:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Tilly_Matthews

Zamboni_Rodeo posted:

And for those of you who like long reads and investigative journalism, here is "Gone," a story in 9 parts, about Felix Vail:


I'll warn you up front that the interface is kind of aggravating, but it's worth it to read the story.

http://www.clarionledger.com/pages/interactives/gone/

RNG posted:

This is really good. And the interface is really bad. Each page opens in a new tab with an autoplay video, clicking outside the center of the screen closes the story, popups that have to be clicked on to close.

quote:

...It was also a perplexing one. Environmental crimes are, generally speaking, the most rational of crimes. The upsides are obvious: Fortunes have been made selling contraband rhino horns and mahogany or helping toxic waste disappear, and the risks are minimal — poaching, illegal logging, and dumping are penalized only weakly in most countries, when they’re penalized at all.
The Soviet whale slaughter followed no such logic. Unlike Norway and Japan, the other major whaling nations of the era, the Soviet Union had little real demand for whale products. Once the blubber was cut away for conversion into oil, the rest of the animal, as often as not, was left in the sea to rot or was thrown into a furnace and reduced to bone meal — a low-value material used for agricultural fertilizer, made from the few animal byproducts that slaughterhouses and fish canneries can’t put to more profitable use. “It was a good product,” Dmitri Tormosov, a scientist who worked on the Soviet fleets, wryly recalls, “but maybe not so important as to support a whole whaling industry.”
This was the riddle the Soviet ships left in their wake: Why did a country with so little use for whales kill so many of them?

...


The Soviet whalers, Berzin wrote, had been sent forth to kill whales for little reason other than to say they had killed them. They were motivated by an obligation to satisfy obscure line items in the five-year plans that drove the Soviet economy, which had been set with little regard for the Soviet Union’s actual demand for whale products. “Whalers knew that no matter what, the plan must be met!” Berzin wrote. The Sovetskaya Rossiya seemed to contain in microcosm everything Berzin believed to be wrong about the Soviet system: its irrationality, its brutality, its inclination toward crime.

Berzin contrasted the Soviet whalers with the Japanese, who are similarly thought to have caught whales off the books in the Antarctic (though in numbers, scientists believe, far short of the Soviets). The Japanese, motivated as they were by domestic demand for whale meat, were “at least understandable” in their actions, he wrote. “I should not say that as a scientist, but it is possible to understand the difference between a motivated and unmotivated crime.” Japanese whalers made use of 90 percent of the whales they hauled up the spillway; the Soviets, according to Berzin, used barely 30 percent. Crews would routinely return with whales that had been left to rot, “which could not be used for food. This was not regarded as a problem by anybody.”
This absurdity stemmed from an oversight deep in the bowels of the Soviet bureaucracy. Whaling, like every other industry in the Soviet Union, was governed by the dictates of the State Planning Committee of the Council of Ministers, a government organ tasked with meting out production targets. In the grand calculus of the country’s planned economy, whaling was considered a satellite of the fishing industry. This meant that the progress of the whaling fleets was measured by the same metric as the fishing fleets: gross product, principally the sheer mass of whales killed.
Whaling fleets that met or exceeded targets were rewarded handsomely, their triumphs celebrated in the Soviet press and the crews given large bonuses. But failure to meet targets came with harsh consequences. Captains would be demoted and crew members fired; reports to the fisheries ministry would sometimes identify responsible parties by name.
Soviet ships’ officers would have been familiar with the story of Aleksandr Dudnik, the captain of the Aleut, the only factory ship the Soviets owned before World War II. Dudnik was a celebrated pioneer in the Soviet whaling industry, and had received the Order of Lenin — the Communist Party’s highest honor — in 1936. The following year, however, his fleet failed to meet its production targets. When the Aleut fleet docked in Vladivostok in 1938, Dudnik was arrested by the secret police and thrown in jail, where he was interrogated on charges of being a Japanese agent. If his downfall was of a piece with the unique paranoia of the Stalin years, it was also an indelible reminder to captains in the decades that followed. As Berzin wrote, “The plan — at any price!”...

quote:

On 6 November 2014, a news source local to Dayton, Ohio, published a story about a princess wand toy called the "Evilstick." According to that news outlet, Dayton-area mom Nicole Allen had purchased a non-descript, pinkish-orange scepter-style wand for her two-year-old daughter.

Allen said she bought the toy at the $1.00 Store on Linden Avenue in Kettering, and when she unpackaged it, she found in contained a foil flower cutout that concealed a terrifying image of what appeared to be a young girl with red, glowing eyes and a large knife gesturing at slicing her wrist.

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The toy resembles typical dollar store off-brand merchandise, which is not infrequently unusual, foreign-made, poorly labeled, or otherwise different from non-discount merchandise found at larger retailers. Allen said she was angry when her son removed the foil to reveal the picture and added that the toy emits a menacing laugh, making it even scarier

Sarcopenia posted:

The last time I saw this kind of conspiracy surrounding a teen youtube vlogger it was this girl who people insisted were being isolated and abused by her mother. The mom came of as weird and very overprotective but I just kind of thought that people were being creepy and over-reactionary. Checked up on her. She fled to Japan to be with a boyfriend to get away from her mother who proved to be just as manipulative and terrible as people had been speculating.

Lime Tonics posted:

This has been one of my fears. I have seen sinkholes form when I lived in florida, but what happens if your house is on one? Oh, and you don't know there is a mine shaft that goes "about 60 meters (196 ft) deep, but now they're expecting it to be 100 meters (328 ft) deep. "

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yx9L3qo-6eQ

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-08-02/ipswich-sinkhole-swallows-backyard-west-of-brisbane/7682332

Sarcopenia posted:

I feel kind of gross saying it as he's obviously very loving unattractive after the things he did and the person he was, but the guy was far from bad looking. Purely based on his looks he would probably have been a guy I'd drunkenly complimented for his amazing cheekbones... And he'd probably turn away in disgust because I'm a black lady. My brain just explodes.

FourLeaf posted:

Would that happen to be the same person being talked about in this twitter thread?

https://twitter.com/Iron_Spike/status/756201461340594176

Because I read it but wasn't able to find more details with some (admittedly light) googling

Luigi's Discount Porn Bin posted:

It seems like the twitter thread is referring to VenusAngelic. There's an ED article that seems to pretty much match (quick marriage, crazy mom, homeschooling, etc).

Mak0rz posted:

Or do they just cap it with a wooden ceiling and bury it?