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Bob Morales
Aug 18, 2006


Just wear the fucking mask, Bob

I don't care how many people I probably infected with COVID-19 while refusing to wear a mask, my comfort is far more important than the health and safety of everyone around me!

Pissing me off:

Someone from our company is going to be on NATIONAL_CABLE_CHANNEL. Last time this happened, we streamed that channel in the big lunchroom and everyone in the company sat and watched for 15 minutes. The marketing manager also streamed it to her Mac and did a recording of it.

This time it's going to be at like 6:30am. IT gets asked if we can record it. Why doesn't marketing do it? They don't get here until 8:00am

Guess what? Neither does IT.

I wouldn't really mind researching 'setup a scheduled recording of some random stream at a given time' but it's in like 18 hours, and I'm out for the week at noon tomorrow and my helpdesk guy isn't here tomorrow so we have actual poo poo to get done today in preparation.

I'm just going to go to Starbucks at 6:30 and stream it there and expense like $17 worth of coffee and snacks and then leave at 10

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angry armadillo
Jul 26, 2010
^ So the answer is only if I can claim my starbucks on expenses or Marketing can do it like they did last time... let me know?

DONT TOUCH THE PC
Jul 15, 2001

You should try it, it's a real buzz.

pixaal posted:

My employee handbook has rules about food having to be clearly marked with your name and date, 2 days after the date it goes free for all and the day after it gets tossed. This is apparently because there used to be someone that would leave stuff in the fridge for weeks and it would get funky but no one else would touch it because it wasn't theirs.

The person I am replacing left for a sabbatical and didn't clear out his closet, we found several woolly loafs of bread.

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


Bob Morales posted:

Pissing me off:

Someone from our company is going to be on NATIONAL_CABLE_CHANNEL. Last time this happened, we streamed that channel in the big lunchroom and everyone in the company sat and watched for 15 minutes. The marketing manager also streamed it to her Mac and did a recording of it.

This time it's going to be at like 6:30am. IT gets asked if we can record it. Why doesn't marketing do it? They don't get here until 8:00am

Guess what? Neither does IT.

I wouldn't really mind researching 'setup a scheduled recording of some random stream at a given time' but it's in like 18 hours, and I'm out for the week at noon tomorrow and my helpdesk guy isn't here tomorrow so we have actual poo poo to get done today in preparation.

I'm just going to go to Starbucks at 6:30 and stream it there and expense like $17 worth of coffee and snacks and then leave at 10

Does nobody own a DVR?

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

How you gonna get it off the DVR and share it with everyone else?

Yay for DRM. :buddy:

FlapYoJacks
Feb 12, 2009

ptier posted:

If by WS you mean Windows Server then that fucker just put technical preview software into production.


So he is doubly an rear end in a top hat.

Sorry, I thought 2016 was the newest. I'm a RHEL guy. :smith:
I guess according to Wikipedia it's 2012 that's the newest?

Hell, I don't even use Windows at work, I'm one of two people who run Linux as their main OS; although I would like to log in via LDAP/WinBind, but god forbid we do that.


Either way, day 2 and LDAP STILL isn't enabled and I can't use git. :v:

pixaal
Jan 8, 2004

All ice cream is now for all beings, no matter how many legs.


ratbert90 posted:

Sorry, I thought 2016 was the newest. I'm a RHEL guy. :smith:
I guess according to Wikipedia it's 2012 that's the newest?

Hell, I don't even use Windows at work, I'm one of two people who run Linux as their main OS; although I would like to log in via LDAP/WinBind, but god forbid we do that.


Either way, day 2 and LDAP STILL isn't enabled and I can't use git. :v:

2012R2, R2 comes out 1-2 years after and usually has some pretty important features.

ptier
Jul 2, 2007

Back off man, I'm a scientist.
Pillbug

ratbert90 posted:

Sorry, I thought 2016 was the newest. I'm a RHEL guy. :smith:
I guess according to Wikipedia it's 2012 that's the newest?

Hell, I don't even use Windows at work, I'm one of two people who run Linux as their main OS; although I would like to log in via LDAP/WinBind, but god forbid we do that.


Either way, day 2 and LDAP STILL isn't enabled and I can't use git. :v:

No worries, just if 2016 was the one he did install, you should stab him with a soldiering iron in the calf or something.

That dude is a tool. There are about 20 devices on the network that I know about here that use LDAP because they aren't windows based. Ask him about LDAPS and see if he understands.

FlapYoJacks
Feb 12, 2009

ptier posted:

No worries, just if 2016 was the one he did install, you should stab him with a soldiering iron in the calf or something.

That dude is a tool. There are about 20 devices on the network that I know about here that use LDAP because they aren't windows based. Ask him about LDAPS and see if he understands.

I did and he said he does, but that he's "too busy" to fix it.

The thing is though, is that there is LITERALLY a LDAP server working that he can connect to on the decommissioned subnet that has the user info setup properly to at least get git working, but he insists that he can't just create the same user on the new LDAP server, look at the old permissions, and enable/select the same permissions. When asked why, he wouldn't give me a straight answer and said "I will look into this later I don't have time right now" and left.

stubblyhead
Sep 13, 2007

That is treason, Johnny!

Fun Shoe

xzzy posted:

How you gonna get it off the DVR and share it with everyone else?

Yay for DRM. :buddy:



Well well well, look who's come crawling back...

Bob Morales
Aug 18, 2006


Just wear the fucking mask, Bob

I don't care how many people I probably infected with COVID-19 while refusing to wear a mask, my comfort is far more important than the health and safety of everyone around me!

stubblyhead posted:



Well well well, look who's come crawling back...

Someone suggested that. I said A) we don't have cable tv, and B) we don't have coax running to the TV in any of the meeting rooms

"Can you set it up?"

By tomorrow? Sure I'm sure Comcast will be right over

nexus6
Sep 2, 2011

If only you could see what I've seen with your eyes

nexus6 posted:

Just had an email from a client who, instead of ADDING a new CASE STUDY to their website, decided to EDIT the case studies PAGE instead, deleting all the content on it. Then they wondered where the case study page went.

As a bonus, when I called to try and clarify what they had done, everyone had already left their office. At 16:30.

Got a followup to this from the client, essentially asking why we charged them to fix their website for them after they broke it and left the office early.

Judge Schnoopy
Nov 2, 2005

dont even TRY it, pal
holy gently caress my senior admin is dense as poo poo. He believes working in IT should entail hiring professionals to do his job, and if HE has to do something, the process should be wholly self-guiding.

Maybe I'm a little touchy lately but this is day 3 of him attempting changes in VMWare without any knowledge of VMWare, and getting pissy because he doesn't understand what he's doing. And yet he refuses to actually research what he's doing - if VCenter can't succinctly explain what's going on, it's VCenter's fault, and that turns senior admin into a whiny baby that pounds his hands on his desk, bangs his fingers on his mouse to 'click harder', and constantly mumbles poo poo like "what the gently caress is this telling me" and "i don't loving understand".

On day 1 of this poo poo I stepped in and found the answers he was looking for, then helped him solve his issue. On day 2 I found the answer on my own and sat on it until he asked for help, which he never did. This is day 3, he's trying to create a datastore in VCenter, and he's stepped out for 3 cigarettes because little baby shitbox can't handle not immediately grasping what he's supposed to do.

I'm about to lose my drat mind.

Sickening
Jul 16, 2007

Black summer was the best summer.
My boss says the wifi "feels slow". He also says he can't give me specific details on what he is doing that is slow, because alas everything we test in person seems to be just fine. He is a smart logical person 90% of the time. A person who worked up the ranks as an engineer. These 10% of the times just drive me crazy. After about 15 minutes of going in circles I finally just had to say "I can't troubleshoot feelings".

So now he is resorting to running internet speed test on his phone every few minutes.

Zamujasa
Oct 27, 2010



Bread Liar

pixaal posted:

My employee handbook has rules about food having to be clearly marked with your name and date, 2 days after the date it goes free for all and the day after it gets tossed. This is apparently because there used to be someone that would leave stuff in the fridge for weeks and it would get funky but no one else would touch it because it wasn't theirs.

I find the leave it 2 days and someone else can eat it rule disturbing, but the throw is out makes perfect sense.

I apparently work with pigs since I just approved an Everyone @ Company.com email about dishes left in the sink over the weekend will be thrown out. I don't usually go into the kitchen as we have a department fridge. I went in there, it smells horrible and the sink is growing a massive amount of mold. Monday is sink cleaning day now!

gently caress, I wish we had that where I was. The fridge is full of a bunch of poo poo and I'm sure plenty of it has been there for... quite a while. A few months ago this conversation happened:

:v: (interm manager): Hey if your stuff is in the fridge for more than a few days please throw it out or I will be cleaning it out on Friday!
:coal:: Could we just get some labels and say you have to mark what's yours and the date you put it in there?
:v:: No, we're all adults here we can handle this ourselves


Well clearly not if you're having to do this :pwn:

MC Fruit Stripe
Nov 26, 2002

around and around we go

Judge Schnoopy posted:

holy gently caress my senior admin is dense as poo poo. He believes working in IT should entail hiring professionals to do his job, and if HE has to do something, the process should be wholly self-guiding.

Maybe I'm a little touchy lately but this is day 3 of him attempting changes in VMWare without any knowledge of VMWare, and getting pissy because he doesn't understand what he's doing. And yet he refuses to actually research what he's doing - if VCenter can't succinctly explain what's going on, it's VCenter's fault, and that turns senior admin into a whiny baby that pounds his hands on his desk, bangs his fingers on his mouse to 'click harder', and constantly mumbles poo poo like "what the gently caress is this telling me" and "i don't loving understand".

On day 1 of this poo poo I stepped in and found the answers he was looking for, then helped him solve his issue. On day 2 I found the answer on my own and sat on it until he asked for help, which he never did. This is day 3, he's trying to create a datastore in VCenter, and he's stepped out for 3 cigarettes because little baby shitbox can't handle not immediately grasping what he's supposed to do.

I'm about to lose my drat mind.
Jesus. vCenter is way too powerful and way too important to just blindly click through. That guy's going to bring down something critical real soon. Have your car keys at the ready, because if you hear his voice rise to a panic, you might need to get out of the building because you were never there in the first place if you catch my drift.

Khisanth Magus
Mar 31, 2011

Vae Victus
One of the few sane things my previous employer did was have a "fridge and freezer are emptied Friday evening every week, no ifs ands or buts" policy. No moldy food in that fridge!

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

We're halfway there.. the cleanup is on the last Friday of the month, and they won't touch anything that's labelled.

meanieface
Mar 27, 2012

During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.
poo poo I'd like to say:
"Please bring this concern up at the next planning meeting, my inbox is not the appropriate forum for feature requests or your concerns with existing design. As you pointed out, I am not the gatekeeper to this project."
:clint:

Ynglaur
Oct 9, 2013

The Malta Conference, anyone?

Sickening posted:

My boss says the wifi "feels slow". He also says he can't give me specific details on what he is doing that is slow, because alas everything we test in person seems to be just fine. He is a smart logical person 90% of the time. A person who worked up the ranks as an engineer. These 10% of the times just drive me crazy. After about 15 minutes of going in circles I finally just had to say "I can't troubleshoot feelings".

So now he is resorting to running internet speed test on his phone every few minutes.

More poo poo that pisses you off: I can't troubleshoot feelings

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


Judge Schnoopy posted:

holy gently caress my senior admin is dense as poo poo. He believes working in IT should entail hiring professionals to do his job, and if HE has to do something, the process should be wholly self-guiding.

Maybe I'm a little touchy lately but this is day 3 of him attempting changes in VMWare without any knowledge of VMWare, and getting pissy because he doesn't understand what he's doing. And yet he refuses to actually research what he's doing - if VCenter can't succinctly explain what's going on, it's VCenter's fault, and that turns senior admin into a whiny baby that pounds his hands on his desk, bangs his fingers on his mouse to 'click harder', and constantly mumbles poo poo like "what the gently caress is this telling me" and "i don't loving understand".

On day 1 of this poo poo I stepped in and found the answers he was looking for, then helped him solve his issue. On day 2 I found the answer on my own and sat on it until he asked for help, which he never did. This is day 3, he's trying to create a datastore in VCenter, and he's stepped out for 3 cigarettes because little baby shitbox can't handle not immediately grasping what he's supposed to do.

I'm about to lose my drat mind.

Once you manage to reach the point where you can hear things going to poo poo around you that aren't your problem, resisting the urge to help and instead just let it wash over you until you're asked, that's the point where you are truly relaxed. I used to get wound up by our team doing the stupidest poo poo but I am now content to let them make whatever the gently caress mistakes they want to - it doesn't reflect badly on me, I don't have to carry the stress of multiple simultaneous gently caress-ups, and I don't get asked to assist because people assume I am too busy.

Zamboni Apocalypse
Dec 29, 2009

Ynglaur posted:

More poo poo that pisses you off: I can't troubleshoot feelings

Have you tried shutting off your feelings and restarting them?

Space Kablooey
May 6, 2009


Zamboni Apocalypse posted:

Have you tried shutting off your feelings and restarting them?

I'm getting this error code: 0x490 :ohdear:

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

HardDisk posted:

I'm getting this error code: 0x490 :ohdear:

You're gonna have to boot off usb, write redtube.iso to it from another human.

Judge Schnoopy
Nov 2, 2005

dont even TRY it, pal

HardDisk posted:

I'm getting this error code: 0x490 :ohdear:

Internal corruption, feelings don't exist or aren't in expected location. Please browse for feelings or run the repair utility (adventure.exe).

Would you like to submit a crash report to Psychiatrist?

[YES] [NO]

Arsten
Feb 18, 2003

Judge Schnoopy posted:

Internal corruption, feelings don't exist or aren't in expected location. Please browse for feelings or run the repair utility (adventure.exe).

Would you like to submit a crash report to Psychiatrist?

[YES] [NO]

Psychiatrists are for sissies. You need a Mechapsychiatrist. The kind that pump you full of ritalin with a gatling syringe cannon.

incoherent
Apr 24, 2004

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ratbert90 posted:

I did and he said he does, but that he's "too busy" to fix it.

The thing is though, is that there is LITERALLY a LDAP server working that he can connect to on the decommissioned subnet that has the user info setup properly to at least get git working, but he insists that he can't just create the same user on the new LDAP server, look at the old permissions, and enable/select the same permissions. When asked why, he wouldn't give me a straight answer and said "I will look into this later I don't have time right now" and left.

Ugh, you can't do your freakin job. Escalate that poo poo.

MF_James
May 8, 2008
I CANNOT HANDLE BEING CALLED OUT ON MY DUMBASS OPINIONS ABOUT ANTI-VIRUS AND SECURITY. I REALLY LIKE TO THINK THAT I KNOW THINGS HERE

INSTEAD I AM GOING TO WHINE ABOUT IT IN OTHER THREADS SO MY OPINION CAN FEEL VALIDATED IN AN ECHO CHAMBER I LIKE

Judge Schnoopy posted:

Internal corruption, feelings don't exist or aren't in expected location. Please browse for feelings or run the repair utility (adventure.exe).

Would you like to submit a crash report to Psychiatrist?

[YES] [NO]

Point of information: Psychiatrists are medical doctors, they are not psychologists/counselors/therapists, they dispense drugs to solve issues, not do talk therapy.

lampey
Mar 27, 2012

Sickening posted:

My boss says the wifi "feels slow". He also says he can't give me specific details on what he is doing that is slow, because alas everything we test in person seems to be just fine. He is a smart logical person 90% of the time. A person who worked up the ranks as an engineer. These 10% of the times just drive me crazy. After about 15 minutes of going in circles I finally just had to say "I can't troubleshoot feelings".

So now he is resorting to running internet speed test on his phone every few minutes.

Some people are never happy. Make a show of doing work and the next step onto them. Change the dns forwarders and tell them they need to flush the dns cache or reset the network settings on a mobile device. For a real issue they will spend a few minutes but most of the time it ends right there and they are happy you looked into it

Zamboni Apocalypse
Dec 29, 2009

MF_James posted:

Point of information: Psychiatrists are medical doctors, they are not psychologists/counselors/therapists, they dispense drugs to solve issues, not do talk therapy.

So, they're hardware specialists.

MF_James
May 8, 2008
I CANNOT HANDLE BEING CALLED OUT ON MY DUMBASS OPINIONS ABOUT ANTI-VIRUS AND SECURITY. I REALLY LIKE TO THINK THAT I KNOW THINGS HERE

INSTEAD I AM GOING TO WHINE ABOUT IT IN OTHER THREADS SO MY OPINION CAN FEEL VALIDATED IN AN ECHO CHAMBER I LIKE

Zamboni Apocalypse posted:

So, they're hardware specialists.

I'd say vending machines

Inspector_666
Oct 7, 2003

benny with the good hair

MF_James posted:

Point of information: Psychiatrists are medical doctors, they are not psychologists/counselors/therapists, they dispense drugs to solve issues, not do talk therapy.

They generally do both, don't they?

Judge Schnoopy
Nov 2, 2005

dont even TRY it, pal

MF_James posted:

Point of information: Psychiatrists are medical doctors, they are not psychologists/counselors/therapists, they dispense drugs to solve issues, not do talk therapy.

By way of extended metaphor, Microsoft doesn't use submitted reports to help troubleshoot issues. They use the reports to prescribe updates that are pushed to the machine.

Space Kablooey
May 6, 2009


MF_James posted:

Point of information: Psychiatrists are medical doctors, they are not psychologists/counselors/therapists, they dispense drugs to solve issues, not do talk therapy.

Sweet!

More seriously, I knew there was a difference, but I never knew what, specifically. This is good to know, thanks.

MF_James
May 8, 2008
I CANNOT HANDLE BEING CALLED OUT ON MY DUMBASS OPINIONS ABOUT ANTI-VIRUS AND SECURITY. I REALLY LIKE TO THINK THAT I KNOW THINGS HERE

INSTEAD I AM GOING TO WHINE ABOUT IT IN OTHER THREADS SO MY OPINION CAN FEEL VALIDATED IN AN ECHO CHAMBER I LIKE

^-- yeah my gf is a Clinical Professional Psychologist, fancy degree name for Therapist/Psychologist. It took me a while to ingrain the difference between the 2. I do have a somewhat poor view of Psychiatrists on the whole (hence my rather harsh wording of them), because they typically do not look to solve your problem, they simply band-aid it. So, people with non-chronic depression? Load them up with pills. Anxiety? Let's manage with pills. Your kid is doing bad in school? Must have ADHD, give em Adderall! This is part of the issue with our society becoming pill eating maniacs. Are all psychiatrists like this? Definitely not, the good ones will recognize they have merely band-aided a problem and there is actual work to do. Some people have anxiety/depression etc that is so crippling that they CAN NOT function normally, that will need controlled with medication, but then you solve the underlying issue with talk therapy.

Inspector_666 posted:

They generally do both, don't they?

No, typically they refer out to an actual therapist for any talk therapy stuff. So, say you have bipolar disorder, you would work with a psychiatrist to find medication suitable for managing the disorder to lessen the mood swings. You would in tandem work with a therapist to help you recognize signs of the mood swings, triggers for it, coping mechanisms, and possibly even assistance recognizing signs the medication is no longer effective or is having an adverse affect, but that last part you would talk to your psychiatrist immediately. Obviously bipolar is NOT something you can cure, you will be taking medication for life (provided you don't go off the deep end and stop taking it) and should technically be seeing a therapist for life, maybe not once a week once you start managing properly, but at least 1 time a month or so just for check-ins.

*edit* this is not to say they can not do both, but as I said before, Psychiatrists are Medical Doctors aka M.D., their training is in more physical rather than psychological, where-as a psychologist is focused on the psychological with a little physical thrown in there. I would say it's probably not unheard of for a Psychiatrist to do both, but that would be a small minority, or someone acting completely unethically and possibly illegally depending on your state laws (licensing requirements etc).

MF_James fucked around with this message at 19:37 on Aug 3, 2016

Khisanth Magus
Mar 31, 2011

Vae Victus

MF_James posted:

^-- yeah my gf is a Clinical Professional Psychologist, fancy degree name for Therapist/Psychologist. It took me a while to ingrain the difference between the 2. I do have a somewhat poor view of Psychiatrists on the whole (hence my rather harsh wording of them), because they typically do not look to solve your problem, they simply band-aid it. So, people with non-chronic depression? Load them up with pills. Anxiety? Let's manage with pills. Your kid is doing bad in school? Must have ADHD, give em Adderall! This is part of the issue with our society becoming pill eating maniacs. Are all psychiatrists like this? Definitely not, the good ones will recognize they have merely band-aided a problem and there is actual work to do. Some people have anxiety/depression etc that is so crippling that they CAN NOT function normally, that will need controlled with medication, but then you solve the underlying issue with talk therapy.


No, typically they refer out to an actual therapist for any talk therapy stuff. So, say you have bipolar disorder, you would work with a psychiatrist to find medication suitable for managing the disorder to lessen the mood swings. You would in tandem work with a therapist to help you recognize signs of the mood swings, triggers for it, coping mechanisms, and possibly even assistance recognizing signs the medication is no longer effective or is having an adverse affect, but that last part you would talk to your psychiatrist immediately. Obviously bipolar is NOT something you can cure, you will be taking medication for life (provided you don't go off the deep end and stop taking it) and should technically be seeing a therapist for life, maybe not once a week once you start managing properly, but at least 1 time a month or so just for check-ins.

My wife has an absurdly extreme case of insomnia caused by a concussion she had when she was a teenager(you should avoid landing on your head when thrown over the front of a horse, although the alternative was landing in a way that probably would have broken her neck). It took us a lot of years to find someone who would actually treat it seriously and do what is necessary, medicinally, to treat it, and that person ended up being a Pyschiatrist. Most doctors are shocked when they see her medication list, but it is what is necessary for her to sleep.

Well, the list would be a lot smaller if a certain medication hadn't gone off the market after the only manufacturer got slapped around by the FDA a bit because that medication is like a miracle pill for her, but it is what it is.

But yeah, because of that guy I actually have a much higher opinion of psychiatrists than a lot of other doctors.

MF_James
May 8, 2008
I CANNOT HANDLE BEING CALLED OUT ON MY DUMBASS OPINIONS ABOUT ANTI-VIRUS AND SECURITY. I REALLY LIKE TO THINK THAT I KNOW THINGS HERE

INSTEAD I AM GOING TO WHINE ABOUT IT IN OTHER THREADS SO MY OPINION CAN FEEL VALIDATED IN AN ECHO CHAMBER I LIKE

Khisanth Magus posted:

My wife has an absurdly extreme case of insomnia caused by a concussion she had when she was a teenager(you should avoid landing on your head when thrown over the front of a horse, although the alternative was landing in a way that probably would have broken her neck). It took us a lot of years to find someone who would actually treat it seriously and do what is necessary, medicinally, to treat it, and that person ended up being a Pyschiatrist. Most doctors are shocked when they see her medication list, but it is what is necessary for her to sleep.

Well, the list would be a lot smaller if a certain medication hadn't gone off the market after the only manufacturer got slapped around by the FDA a bit because that medication is like a miracle pill for her, but it is what it is.

But yeah, because of that guy I actually have a much higher opinion of psychiatrists than a lot of other doctors.

This is exactly what psychiatrists are for! My issue with psychiatrists is when they solely treat the symptom (depression, anxiety, mood swings etc), without informing the patient they should have regards for the root cause of the problem (unresolved trauma/whatever the gently caress), because if you solve the root cause, you won't need the medicine! The issue with your wife is purely a physical problem, the knock to her head caused an actual physical condition that needs to be treated with medication (possibly some sort of procedure will come up in 10-20 years that could resolve it permanently as well, who the gently caress knows).

I'm not a wikipedia super-fan but this is actually spot loving on:

quote:

Psychiatrists are medical doctors, unlike psychologists, and must evaluate patients to determine whether their symptoms are the result of a physical illness, a combination of physical and mental, or a strictly psychiatric one.


I'm VERY against taking pills for the entirety of your lifetime if it's possible to avoid, taking them for a certain (yet undetermined) amount of time to help manage your problem? Yes, you should if it's that bad, but if it's possible you should fix the root cause and hopefully get away from popping expensive medication for 50 years.

peter banana
Sep 2, 2008

Feminism is a socialist, anti-family, political movement that encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcraft, destroy capitalism and become lesbians.

MF_James posted:

^-- yeah my gf is a Clinical Professional Psychologist, fancy degree name for Therapist/Psychologist. It took me a while to ingrain the difference between the 2. I do have a somewhat poor view of Psychiatrists on the whole (hence my rather harsh wording of them), because they typically do not look to solve your problem, they simply band-aid it. So, people with non-chronic depression? Load them up with pills. Anxiety? Let's manage with pills. Your kid is doing bad in school? Must have ADHD, give em Adderall! This is part of the issue with our society becoming pill eating maniacs. Are all psychiatrists like this? Definitely not, the good ones will recognize they have merely band-aided a problem and there is actual work to do. Some people have anxiety/depression etc that is so crippling that they CAN NOT function normally, that will need controlled with medication, but then you solve the underlying issue with talk therapy.


No, typically they refer out to an actual therapist for any talk therapy stuff. So, say you have bipolar disorder, you would work with a psychiatrist to find medication suitable for managing the disorder to lessen the mood swings. You would in tandem work with a therapist to help you recognize signs of the mood swings, triggers for it, coping mechanisms, and possibly even assistance recognizing signs the medication is no longer effective or is having an adverse affect, but that last part you would talk to your psychiatrist immediately. Obviously bipolar is NOT something you can cure, you will be taking medication for life (provided you don't go off the deep end and stop taking it) and should technically be seeing a therapist for life, maybe not once a week once you start managing properly, but at least 1 time a month or so just for check-ins.

*edit* this is not to say they can not do both, but as I said before, Psychiatrists are Medical Doctors aka M.D., their training is in more physical rather than psychological, where-as a psychologist is focused on the psychological with a little physical thrown in there. I would say it's probably not unheard of for a Psychiatrist to do both, but that would be a small minority, or someone acting completely unethically and possibly illegally depending on your state laws (licensing requirements etc).

I take medication for late in life diagnosed ADHD (by a psychiatrist) and probably will for the rest of my life and it stopped me from wanting to kill myself, but thanks for your informed perspective.

22 Eargesplitten
Oct 10, 2010



MF_James posted:

because if you solve the root cause, you won't need the medicine!

Let me know when there's a way to fix bad genetics.

The problem with seeing mental health care professionals regularly is that 90% of them don't take insurance, and even if they do, a lot of insurance plans don't cover it. So I pretty much can't talk to a therapist about minimizing my many problems because it's like $150 out of pocket per session, and I'm already paying $50-75 per month for medicine.

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chin up everything sucks
Jan 29, 2012

Inspector_666 posted:

They generally do both, don't they?

A Psychiatrist understands the physical chemical processes of the brain, how drugs interact with them, and the different chemical causes for different conditions. They can proscribe medications because they know how everything will work at a physical level. A good one will talk to you to try and find out if your issue is a physical one (chronic or longterm issues) or something caused by environment or a reaction to something else. If they think it's a physical issue made worse by environmental factors, or entirely enviromental, they will have you talk to a psychologist, but may put you on meds for the short term. A psychologist understands how the mind deals with input and how it can be conditioned to react in different ways. They may suggest meds, but somebody else has to do the prescribing.

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