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X-O posted:Now the critic reviews really didn't bother me, but this does. Weren't the DC films supposedly supposed to be the ones that were director driven with the studio just letting them do their thing with no interference? Hiring an outside company to re-edit the film doesn't really fit that mold.
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X-O posted:Now the critic reviews really didn't bother me, but this does. Weren't the DC films supposedly supposed to be the ones that were director driven with the studio just letting them do their thing with no interference? Hiring an outside company to re-edit the film doesn't really fit that mold. Well this is the second one and first not directed by the guy in charge of everything anyway, so it's kind of early to identify a status quo.
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# ? Aug 3, 2016 21:18 |
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Endless Mike posted:Pretty sure that lasted exactly as long as BvS didn't meet expectations. Which is kinda funny when you think that the extended cut Snyder wanted got better reviews than the company edited theatrical cut
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# ? Aug 3, 2016 21:19 |
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I'll eventually see it but to me Suicide Squad seems like a concept much better suited to TV/Netflix/Whatever episodic format. Give me weekly capers and a bigger platform to explore each character.
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# ? Aug 3, 2016 21:22 |
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mycot posted:Several reviews have brought it up mockingly, but can anyone name which superhero/action films had a (does review material count as spoilers?) column of light in the climax? Other than Ghostbusters of course. X-men Amazing Spider-man
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# ? Aug 3, 2016 21:35 |
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I truly forgot that Slipknot was a character in SS until reviews brought up, mockingly, how Slipknot was a character in SS. Talk about an overly cast film.
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# ? Aug 3, 2016 21:54 |
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Wasn't he everyone's favorite candidate for testing out the bombs?
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# ? Aug 3, 2016 21:57 |
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site posted:I dunno how much weight it holds with you guys but ca did not like suicide squad Holy poo poo I haven't kept up with SS news (because I have not been excited for it much at all) but that Deadshot mask is just bad. I thought they were just gonna have Will Smith go maskless. That thing looks CW-show level.
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# ? Aug 3, 2016 22:07 |
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TwoPair posted:Holy poo poo I haven't kept up with SS news (because I have not been excited for it much at all) but that Deadshot mask is just bad. I thought they were just gonna have Will Smith go maskless. That thing looks CW-show level. That's not being fair to the CW. He looks like a power rangers villain, or maybe a knockoff Predator from an asylum film or something.
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# ? Aug 3, 2016 22:15 |
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It looks like a jockstrap.
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# ? Aug 3, 2016 22:30 |
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Jonny_Rocket posted:So...regardless if a movie is good or not, you're really paying for the experience? If the prices to see a movie were a bit cheaper, then sure - but at around $15+ for a single ticket? No thanks. Where the heck are you going? I get a ticket for literally half that. $7.50 and I can still get a drink with the left over $10 (but a small one because it's the fuckin movies).
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# ? Aug 3, 2016 22:35 |
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Kingtheninja posted:Wasn't he everyone's favorite candidate for testing out the bombs? This is his fate in the comics and probably in the film.
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# ? Aug 3, 2016 22:38 |
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X-O posted:Now the critic reviews really didn't bother me, but this does. Weren't the DC films supposedly supposed to be the ones that were director driven with the studio just letting them do their thing with no interference? Hiring an outside company to re-edit the film doesn't really fit that mold. After I read that article this morning, it left a really bad taste in my mouth on what's happening with the DC properties in film. Odds are Wonder Woman and Justice League are going to fall victim to the same treatment I think, and that bums me out. I really want to be proven wrong though.
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# ? Aug 3, 2016 22:48 |
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Wonder Woman seems like such a straightforward story that would be difficult to gently caress up in editing. It seems like it's fairly linear and focused on one strong character and is an origin story, rather than an ensemble where you are trying to tell a story and also flashback to their origin story for like a dozen characters. JLA seems like it works be similarly simple depending on how much backstory they try to cram in for various characters(given the cast list and seeing lots of ancillary characters like Aquaman's advisor, they could be making that same mistake.
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# ? Aug 3, 2016 22:55 |
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Wonder Woman is really the only comic book character I actually care about, so yeah, my hopes are still high from all the footage that's been released (especially from the trailer), but still, that Hollywood Reporter article still kind of has me worried that somehow, someway, WB could gently caress it up. The potential is there.
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# ? Aug 3, 2016 23:00 |
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I mean, if they try to undermine a guy like David Ayer who was a very respected filmmaker before he ever got involved with DC and then turned into one of their biggest cheerleaders then I really don't put anything past them with regards to future movies.
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# ? Aug 3, 2016 23:02 |
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# ? Aug 3, 2016 23:39 |
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Saying that Suicide Squad is worse than Fantastic Four is a little misleading. FF is not good but it's definitely not 9% bad. Catwoman is also 9% and it's way worse. I'd put Fantastic Four with Green Lantern (26) and BvS (27) and if SS is doing 32% then that sounds about right. What doesn't sound right are the complaints that it's slow and boring. This should be a big dumb movie with sexy bad girls and angry bad mans and large explosions and thin plots. This should be anything but boring.
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# ? Aug 3, 2016 23:57 |
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Heathen posted:Saying that Suicide Squad is worse than Fantastic Four is a little misleading. FF is not good but it's definitely not 9% bad. Catwoman is also 9% and it's way worse. That's not how RT percentage works
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# ? Aug 4, 2016 00:02 |
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X-O posted:I mean, if they try to undermine a guy like David Ayer who was a very respected filmmaker before he ever got involved with DC and then turned into one of their biggest cheerleaders then I really don't put anything past them with regards to future movies. Was David Ayer really all that well respected? Unless we're counting Training Day, the response to pretty much all of his films has been middling to outright hostile. Edit: I guess End of Watch got pretty good reviews actually Uncle Boogeyman fucked around with this message at 00:06 on Aug 4, 2016 |
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Kind of an interesting review over at Nerdist http://nerdist.com/suicide-squad-is-too-all-over-the-place-to-really-land-review/ It basically says that for an ensemble cast movie, there isn't much team building shown. A few moments of "I guess they're friends now?" pop up here and there. I say interesting for one reason - Joker isn't mentioned at all in the review until the very last sentence. quote:With talents like Smith and Robbie and characters with as much potential as that displayed by Killer Croc (Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje) and El Diablo (Jay Hernandez), it’s a shame and a puzzler that the biggest letdown of Suicide Squad was its virtual squadlessness. So, are we to take away form this that the Joker who has been front and center in all the build up is either A) the worst part or B) not around enough to make or break the movie? CzarChasm fucked around with this message at 00:08 on Aug 4, 2016 |
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:Was David Ayer really all that well respected? Unless we're counting Training Day, the response to pretty much all of his films has been middling to outright hostile. The only movie of his I didn't like was Sabotage. Training Day, Harsh Times, End of Watch, and Fury I loved. Street Kings was ok. Training Day, End of Watch, and Fury all got mostly critical praise.
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# ? Aug 4, 2016 00:18 |
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CzarChasm posted:So, are we to take away form this that the Joker who has been front and center in all the build up is either A) the worst part or B) not around enough to make or break the movie? I haven't seen it but it's option Bee (from other reviews.)
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# ? Aug 4, 2016 00:20 |
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SonicRulez posted:Where the heck are you going? I get a ticket for literally half that. $7.50 and I can still get a drink with the left over $10 (but a small one because it's the fuckin movies). All of the options around me in Massachusetts are at least $10 or more, especially if it's in gimmicky 3D or IMAX
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# ? Aug 4, 2016 00:24 |
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NmareBfly posted:I haven't seen it but it's option Bee (from other reviews.) Color me genuinely, pleasantly surprised if this turns out to be true
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# ? Aug 4, 2016 00:32 |
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I mean, if you get the guy who made fuckin' Training Day to make the Training Day of superhero movies, you should just leave him to his own loving devices over editing the movie out from under him.
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# ? Aug 4, 2016 00:33 |
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CzarChasm posted:Color me genuinely, pleasantly surprised if this turns out to be true It's true. Pretty much every review mentions it.
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# ? Aug 4, 2016 00:33 |
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Not only is he barely in the movie, he's supposedly not particularly weird or 'crazy' acting. One review I read says he's more like Gotham's top gangster, and he barely does anything you would expect a criminal to be sent to an asylum for in the first place. And he apparently doesn't have any scenes with any of the Squad except for Harley, so all his 'method' stunts of psyching out the other actors were utterly pointless.
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# ? Aug 4, 2016 00:42 |
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It's not Training Day. Training Day being about 2 people is key. Ayer's been trying to make Training Day but with more people for a while now, with varying success.
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# ? Aug 4, 2016 00:42 |
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SonicRulez posted:Where the heck are you going? I get a ticket for literally half that. $7.50 and I can still get a drink with the left over $10 (but a small one because it's the fuckin movies).
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# ? Aug 4, 2016 00:42 |
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They honestly should have just made a live-action version of Assault on Arkham.
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# ? Aug 4, 2016 00:48 |
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That's the one where Harley and deadshot take a TO to gently caress right
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# ? Aug 4, 2016 00:53 |
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Yes.
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# ? Aug 4, 2016 00:53 |
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Early movies here are $12. Normal movies are $15-18 depending on 3D. Add another $3 if it's at the nice theater with the giant recliners.
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# ? Aug 4, 2016 01:01 |
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CzarChasm posted:So, are we to take away form this that the Joker who has been front and center in all the build up is either A) the worst part or B) not around enough to make or break the movie? Surprise, it's both!
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# ? Aug 4, 2016 01:29 |
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Whizbang posted:Surprise, it's both! Eh, nah. The reviews are pretty unanimous in that Cara Delevingne, whether as June Moon (where she's mousy and wooden and barely present) or as Enchantress (where she's catastrophically terrible) is the worst part of SS.
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# ? Aug 4, 2016 02:19 |
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But she isn't objectively human garbage like Jared Leto.
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# ? Aug 4, 2016 02:36 |
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i wish i never learned Leto was an awful person. He was so good in Dallas Buyers Club.
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# ? Aug 4, 2016 02:47 |
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Toxxupation posted:Eh, nah. The reviews are pretty unanimous in that Cara Delevingne, whether as June Moon (where she's mousy and wooden and barely present) or as Enchantress (where she's catastrophically terrible) is the worst part of SS. There's a difference between best/worst actor, and best/worst part of the film. I'm not surprised to hear Cara is the worst actor in the film, but Leto's Joker could still be the lowest point of the film, despite being better acted.
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# ? Aug 4, 2016 03:20 |
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I want to think that once they saw the premiere and everyone realized that Leto was barely in the movie and didn't actually have any scenes with anyone else the entire cast and crew ganged up on him and took turns dunking his head in a toilet
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