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Monaghan posted:I think it's safe to say that Jeb would have given her a harder time than trump. The other republican candidates are also better at hiding their racism and incompetence. JEB's Super Pac taking Chinese money would have sunk him.
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Lotka Volterra posted:Even if he cut his mistake diet down to 2-3 a week, he'd still be making enough that no one would stop talking about how much of a buffoon he is. All HRC has to do is literally sit back and watch. Not to mention that the meltdowns that we're seeing are being pushed by the Clinton campaign since their entire argument against Trump is that he's an unhinged lunatic that isn't fit to be president. They've been sitting on a literal gold mine of opposition material to push this narrative and it looks like they waited for the conventions to wrap up since (a) Trump is the official nominee and the GOP can't pull the plug on that monster without looking horrible (b) democrats just got 4 days of basically free messaging to jump start the narrative they're going for against him. That Trump''s a thin-skinned pissbitch who's easy to set off with all of this is an immense help to that narrative, but outside of the San Diego speech the Clinton team never really attacked him until now.
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What I wonder is what Trump's numbers would be against another Democrat. A part of me likes to think 40% of Americans aren't on board with fascism and nuclear war, unless it's to keep the bad lady they hear about on the talk radio shows out.
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TVarmy posted:What I wonder is what Trump's numbers would be against another Democrat. A part of me likes to think 40% of Americans aren't on board with fascism and nuclear war, unless it's to keep the bad lady they hear about on the talk radio shows out. If Bernie Sanders had been the nominee they would have just had less of a head start on making GBS threads on him. Jesus Christ could run for President on the Democratic ticket and Republicans would say the same poo poo about Him.
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TVarmy posted:What I wonder is what Trump's numbers would be against another Democrat. A part of me likes to think 40% of Americans aren't on board with fascism and nuclear war, unless it's to keep the bad lady they hear about on the talk radio shows out. I would have liked to have seen a Bernie Sanders vs Donald Trump debate.  That and I am kind of wondering, after 2020 and if Hillary wins that... who is next up for the Democrats? Because a lot of people involved in politics seem to be going the same way as Trumps supporters. Getting older and dying in droves.
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Bernie wouldn't be able to handle Trump like Hillary can. He gets easily flustered where Hillary will stare him down and murder him with his eyes.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Bernie wouldn't be able to handle Trump like Hillary can. He gets easily flustered where Hillary will stare him down and murder him with his eyes. Also, her being the target of 25 years of republican bullshit means that they literally have no opposition research left to throw at her.
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Sword of Chomsky posted:So is anyone else worried about an uptick in right wing militia groups and other anti government groups? From a few pages back, but you can't stomp on the rats until they come out of the woodwork 
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That map is so beautiful. I know it won't hold (though if his numbers slip further, I doubt the smile will leave my face even while sleeping), but gently caress it, victory drink time.
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Josef bugman posted:I would have liked to have seen a Bernie Sanders vs Donald Trump debate. I'd say looking at the convention speakers would be a good start. If I had to guess, Cory Booker's name will get floated a lot when people start talking about the next Democratic primary, at the very least.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Bernie wouldn't be able to handle Trump like Hillary can. He gets easily flustered where Hillary will stare him down and murder him with his eyes. I realize this is probably a typo, but I like the mental image of her tearing out his eyes and killing him with them.
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MoM's convention speech was also a loving barnburner.
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Harrow posted:I'd say looking at the convention speakers would be a good start. If I had to guess, Cory Booker's name will get floated a lot when people start talking about the next Democratic primary, at the very least. Just had a look at some of his positions. I mean seems like a fun and cool guy, but not wanting to end the Patriot act? That is probably not the best position.
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ImpAtom posted:Clinton will probably drop a bit once Trump stops making GBS threads the bed daily. It would be entirely implausible for her lead to remain this large all the way to election day if just because even Trump is unlikely to make mistakes 24/7. Oh, ye of little faith.
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SubponticatePoster posted:MoM's convention speech was also a loving barnburner. He was pretty mixed for Baltimore, what with being Carcetti and all, though he was better as governor. He's charming as hell, though, and I kinda want to see him whip out his guitar and play angry Pogues songs at a debate.
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TVarmy posted:What I wonder is what Trump's numbers would be against another Democrat. A part of me likes to think 40% of Americans aren't on board with fascism and nuclear war, unless it's to keep the bad lady they hear about on the talk radio shows out. PPP polled Obama vs Trump, and the numbers were I think 53-44. Granted this was before the complete implosion of the last couple of days. So maybe Trumps numbers dropped more.
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ImpAtom posted:Clinton will probably drop a bit once Trump stops making GBS threads the bed daily. It would be entirely implausible for her lead to remain this large all the way to election day if just because even Trump is unlikely to make mistakes 24/7. I am not sure if that's going to happen.
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I actually didn't like a lot of the DNC from what I saw of it. I know if there was ever a time to appeal to moderate republicans and flag wave a little it was now. But maybe it's because I don't like flag waving I was left a little disturbed by the whole thing. A lot of it seemed a bit too "oorah 'Murica" and makes me worried as to why a DNC would even do that. I mean from the looks of it you could have had the red army chorus playing the International there and it still would have caused Trump to explode.
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TVarmy posted:So when Trump said, "This is great" re 9/11, was it in a, "Knew this would happen!" way or a "Get a load of the amateurs in DC" way, or an even crazier context? I think the way it's meant to be parsed is as "But we had a story where I was talking about people dancing in the street [of New Jersey when 9/11 happened]. Or dancing on the rooftops, you remember...And, no I said...Nice. Real Nice." Basically, he's making a sarcastic remark at the sight of people dancing, presumably in celebration, after 9/11, but he forgot to actually give the context for when the dancing was happening in the first place. He remembers to give the context near the end, but he does so at a point mid-sentence where the result people hear is "I said when the World Trade Center came down. Nice. Real nice." It would be a ridiculous statement regardless because I very much doubt that such a sight took place in New Jersey (or if it did it would have been limited to a very small handful of anarchistic idiots in the entire state). As it is, the statement comes out as a garbled mess which can easily be interpreted as an even worse statement than it already is; sticking too closely to reading a script almost inevitably makes a speaker sound inauthentic and robotic, but Trump has proven himself to be actively awful at getting his points across while speaking off-script because he interrupts his sentences and backtracks constantly. As for the rest of his speech, I've completely given up on trying to make any sense at all of the point he was ultimately trying to make about his encounter with the disabled reporter who was 'groveling' at him (the media is corrupt? he's good for disabled people because he met one once? I honestly don't know).
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Yeah, the now-cast is pretty amazing just to look at, but it doesn't mean much. What really brings a grin to my face is that even the actual predictions are up to 73.2% and 69.4% (in polls and polls-plus respectively). 538 is a model that leans pretty hard into "who knows what will happen between now and November, better not stray too far from 50%" and even then it's giving 3-to-1 odds, with over three full months still to go.
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Josef bugman posted:I actually didn't like a lot of the DNC from what I saw of it. I know if there was ever a time to appeal to moderate republicans and flag wave a little it was now. But maybe it's because I don't like flag waving I was left a little disturbed by the whole thing. A lot of it seemed a bit too "oorah 'Murica" and makes me worried as to why a DNC would even do that. I mean from the looks of it you could have had the red army chorus playing the International there and it still would have caused Trump to explode. I'm a fan of the posture: "Are you a Democrat?" "No." "So you're a Republican?" "gently caress no."
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cross-posting from polititoons threadMister Beeg posted:KC Green did another thing for the Nib
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Josef bugman posted:I actually didn't like a lot of the DNC from what I saw of it. I know if there was ever a time to appeal to moderate republicans and flag wave a little it was now. But maybe it's because I don't like flag waving I was left a little disturbed by the whole thing. A lot of it seemed a bit too "oorah 'Murica" and makes me worried as to why a DNC would even do that. I mean from the looks of it you could have had the red army chorus playing the International there and it still would have caused Trump to explode. I'm guessing you were in high school during W's presidency right?
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I dunno guys I think Ollie North might know a thing or two about treason.
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Nessus posted:J. Random Democrat would probably be doing like 1% better because they wouldn't have had 25 years of demonization, but they would remain a DemonRAT who is going to steal your infants, abort them, and then make them marry gayly. I could honestly see the stories about letting a dangerous, liberal, hippie socialist who doesn't howl for blood with brown skin from the Middle East being given power if Christ himself was a Democratic nominee.
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Josef bugman posted:I actually didn't like a lot of the DNC from what I saw of it. I know if there was ever a time to appeal to moderate republicans and flag wave a little it was now. But maybe it's because I don't like flag waving I was left a little disturbed by the whole thing. A lot of it seemed a bit too "oorah 'Murica" and makes me worried as to why a DNC would even do that. I mean from the looks of it you could have had the red army chorus playing the International there and it still would have caused Trump to explode. I can't remember if it was on SA or somewhere else, but somebody said something to the effect of, no matter who you are or what political party you belong to, every American has that moment where they want to tear open their shirt to reveal a flag and chant USA like we just caught Osama again. The Democratic Party has retaken patriotism from the Republicans, if only for one election. Don't deny us this moment.  
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Josef bugman posted:I actually didn't like a lot of the DNC from what I saw of it. I know if there was ever a time to appeal to moderate republicans and flag wave a little it was now. But maybe it's because I don't like flag waving I was left a little disturbed by the whole thing. A lot of it seemed a bit too "oorah 'Murica" and makes me worried as to why a DNC would even do that. I mean from the looks of it you could have had the red army chorus playing the International there and it still would have caused Trump to explode. I think it's more a reaction from the Bush years and the Democrats have finally regained their confidence enough to proudly call themselves Americans.
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Are you loving kidding me? A man who should have been hanged for treason and then revived so he could be hanged for sponsoring mass murder, who sold Iran 1000 guided anti-tank missiles, who funded nun-raping death squads... is lecturing us on Iran.
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