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MF_James
May 8, 2008
I CANNOT HANDLE BEING CALLED OUT ON MY DUMBASS OPINIONS ABOUT ANTI-VIRUS AND SECURITY. I REALLY LIKE TO THINK THAT I KNOW THINGS HERE

INSTEAD I AM GOING TO WHINE ABOUT IT IN OTHER THREADS SO MY OPINION CAN FEEL VALIDATED IN AN ECHO CHAMBER I LIKE

peter banana posted:

I take medication for late in life diagnosed ADHD (by a psychiatrist) and probably will for the rest of my life and it stopped me from wanting to kill myself, but thanks for your informed perspective.

Probably read a little better next time? ADHD can not be cured, it is something that you will need to take medication for, can you possibly manage it other ways? Maybe. Where in my (rather long) rant did you see anything about me saying psychiatrists are bad for giving out pills to people with conditions that require it? Work on your reading comprehension, or I dunno, take the time to read the whole thing before trying to call me out.

MF_James fucked around with this message at 19:57 on Aug 3, 2016

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peter banana
Sep 2, 2008

Feminism is a socialist, anti-family, political movement that encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcraft, destroy capitalism and become lesbians.

MF_James posted:

Probably read a little better next time? ADHD can not be cured, it is something that you will need to take medication for, can you possibly manage it other ways? Maybe. Where in my (rather long) rant did you see anything about me saying psychiatrists are bad for giving out pills to people with conditions that require it?

MF_James posted:

I'm VERY against taking pills for the entirety of your lifetime if it's possible to avoid, taking them for a certain (yet undetermined) amount of time to help manage your problem? Yes, you should if it's that bad, but if it's possible you should fix the root cause and hopefully get away from popping expensive medication for 50 years.

It literally cannot be managed effectively other ways as with medication.

MF_James
May 8, 2008
I CANNOT HANDLE BEING CALLED OUT ON MY DUMBASS OPINIONS ABOUT ANTI-VIRUS AND SECURITY. I REALLY LIKE TO THINK THAT I KNOW THINGS HERE

INSTEAD I AM GOING TO WHINE ABOUT IT IN OTHER THREADS SO MY OPINION CAN FEEL VALIDATED IN AN ECHO CHAMBER I LIKE

I do not see how that confirms your statement?

I'm VERY against taking pills for the entirety of your lifetime if it's possible to avoid, taking them for a certain (yet undetermined) amount of time to help manage your problem? Yes, you should if it's that bad, but if it's possible you should fix the root cause and hopefully get away from popping expensive medication for 50 years.

You found (likely through a lot of loving hardship) that you NEED MEDICATION TO MANAGE IT, I am NOT against this. What I AM against is loading people up with anti-depression meds and poo poo like that and then never telling them to go see a therapist, some people have lifelong depression due to imbalances in their brains, some people just have unresolved trauma that can be helped.

Judge Schnoopy
Nov 2, 2005

dont even TRY it, pal
gently caress guys i guess I'm sorry for saying 'psychiatrist'

should have just ended my joke with 'microsoft' and been done with it

Sprechensiesexy
Dec 26, 2010

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Judge Schnoopy posted:

gently caress guys i guess I'm sorry for saying 'psychiatrist'

should have just ended my joke with 'microsoft' and been done with it

Does Microsoft have cloud enabled pill dispensers yet?

BaseballPCHiker
Jan 16, 2006

Sprechensiesexy posted:

Does Microsoft have cloud enabled pill dispensers yet?

They changed the feature set with the latest update and now they just forcibly dispense suppositories.

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

Sprechensiesexy posted:

Does Microsoft have cloud enabled pill dispensers yet?

No but they keep trying to force you to take them with a full screen dialogue that only has "ok" for an option.

Alereon
Feb 6, 2004

Dehumanize yourself and face to Trumpshed
College Slice
:siren:Let's not post about brain janitors anymore!:siren:

I think it is important to understand the difference and kind of interesting, but we have gone well beyond the point where anyone wants to read about it in this thread.

On-topic: poo poo NOT pissing me off: Picked up an escalated ticket for a reporting issue, basically customer is getting billed for services at site IDs that don't belong to them. After a shitton of investigation, find that they are sending site IDs in their transactions that don't belong to them (this is valid, they could be sub-billing). I wrote this all up and expected a bunch of pushback and demands for credit, but instead today they just replied with "Wow thanks, we've been trying to figure this out for weeks!"

Sheep
Jul 24, 2003
No good deed goes unpunished, prepare to be blamed when the fixes to their system break something else and "well Alereon told us to change X Y and Z..."

vanity slug
Jul 20, 2010

Sprechensiesexy posted:

Does Microsoft have cloud enabled pill dispensers yet?

It's Ballmer Peak all the way

porkface
Dec 29, 2000

Sprechensiesexy posted:

Does Microsoft have cloud enabled pill dispensers yet?

No but Niantic does.

Proud Christian Mom
Dec 20, 2006
READING COMPREHENSION IS HARD
The resources are talking about feelings again. Time for new resources!

anthonypants
May 6, 2007

by Nyc_Tattoo
Dinosaur Gum

meanieface posted:

poo poo I'd like to say:
"Please bring this concern up at the next planning meeting, my inbox is not the appropriate forum for feature requests or your concerns with existing design. As you pointed out, I am not the gatekeeper to this project."
:clint:
I got pretty close to sending a passive-aggressive "hey [consultant] can you explain to [my boss] the difference between 'su username' and 'su - username'" email

SEKCobra
Feb 28, 2011

Hi
:saddowns: Don't look at my site :saddowns:
On the topic of troubleshooting feelings:

"Someone deleted THE *.indd file somewhere." I wrote back asking for details like when it happened, what program they used to create the file (I know it's InDesign), if they've checked the deleted files... and haven't got a reply in over a day. He also wrote "It should have the same name", with literally no more info inbetween. Sorry pal, can't look for that one specific *.indd file with that one name that was somewhere maybe on one of the shares or maybe somewhere else.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


As of tomorrow I got on 2 weeks leave. Of course there is no handover procedure as my manager is taking over my role in my absence and he is still on his holiday overseas. If it's anything like the past few weeks while he was away - the fires will still be burning. Unfortunately I will have to run the gauntlet twice because I have personal purchases being delivered and I cannot get the delivery address changed.

dogstile
May 1, 2012

fucking clocks
how do they work?
Guess who's users found out the hard way that their encryption isn't compatible with windows 10 and that it breaks it?

Me! Me!

Guess who's users waited a week to tell him?

Meeeeee!

Guess who's taking the blame?

Them, actually. Haha! You thought that was going to other way right? I did send out warning emails!

Proteus Jones
Feb 28, 2013



dogstile posted:

Guess who's users found out the hard way that their encryption isn't compatible with windows 10 and that it breaks it?

Me! Me!

Guess who's users waited a week to tell him?

Meeeeee!

Guess who's taking the blame?

Them, actually. Haha! You thought that was going to other way right? I did send out warning emails!

Now, that's a twist worthy of M. Night.

you were dead(inside) all along!

Polio Vax Scene
Apr 5, 2009



Client: Hey can you call me this morning about this issue? Oh but I won't pick up the phone though, not sure why I can't just type my drat problem in an email LOL!

Bob Morales
Aug 18, 2006


Just wear the fucking mask, Bob

I don't care how many people I probably infected with COVID-19 while refusing to wear a mask, my comfort is far more important than the health and safety of everyone around me!

Annoying, whiny CFO comes to interrupt a conference call 2 different times. Announces 'Hey come see me when you get a minute". I get a 5 minute break so I go see what he wants. Crying about petty issues. I'm so glad you kept interrupting for this. Bah.

Super Slash
Feb 20, 2006

You rang ?
Gah, why can't whiny man-children just gently caress off.

This one guy is complaining his phone isn't picking up calendar items, every phone I send out is pre-configured and works off the bat with no intervention needed.
I send over menu instructions to check his exchange account settings and he says the "Download new content" options aren't there, I specifically used the same model phone to check the routine for this and it's not difficult to follow; plus it's not like there's much to configure beyond how often you want stuff synced.

Compared to everyone else who have some semblance of manners this guy is an abrasive rear end in a top hat who always likes to flaunt he used to own his own telecoms company and everything we do is poo poo, get with the loving program and stop being so salty that we don't use iPhones anymore. :argh:

EDIT: Actually no this is worse

Holy poo poo our finance manager really is the cheapest cheapskate there ever loving was, she won't approve a printer purchase because apparently Amazon sells it cheaper by £20, never mind the fact our broker can get it for a really good price and that the amazon listing is literally more expensive than my quote made obvious with me screenshotting them.

What the gently caress is wrong with people, the manager who needs it is bloody vivid
:psyduck:

Super Slash fucked around with this message at 16:22 on Aug 4, 2016

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


Why bother using RFC 1918 addresses in your LAN when you can just pick some numbers that you think look cool?

Woogles
Mar 23, 2007

hello
Fresh from the madhouse - after telling this person that an app was listening on 8084 and they were wondering why port 8080 didn't work:

:v: : I told you earlier that port 8080 wasn't working and asked you to decide how you wanted to do this going forward. 8084 doesn't work, and will never work
:v: : Please pay attention to what I tell you
;-* : @Woogles…Thank you for letting me know that I need to pay more attention….from what you told me earlier I understood that right now 8084 was working but you wanted us to have a discussion on how to manage it better
:v: : "All the apps are listening on 8084 but the forwarded port goes to 8080. We’re going to need to think how we set these ports on different systems going forward"
:v: : I never said it would work as-is.
:v: : I also said I could modify the properties settings at build time in the CI job then asked everyone collectively to decide how we'd handle it going forward
;-* : @PM..please have that conversation with @Woogles and let me know how to proceed
:v: : Errrr
:v: : Aren't you the technical architect here?
;-* : @Woogles... I am the TA…but I don’t like to have a conversation like this please
:v: : Ok, fair enough
.....
;-* :@PM…we should sort out rude behaviours here…for us to have a conversation please

I don't really give a gently caress. This person is allegedly a technical architect. If they don't know what the hell they're doing or how basic things work (they were installing stuff from source in a Bamboo job instead of using a package manager, and for no good reason!) then I'm going to call them on it. Very publicly.

Like when I told the head of Managed Services, in front of several people, that his plan to absorb IT was incredibly stupid and doomed to fail. I've been proven right; their department's a goddamned mess and their "senior" engineers don't even know what the sed command is. Sigh.

wolrah
May 8, 2006
what?
Customer calls me last night saying their internet is down and one of their workstations isn't working. They rebooted the modem, blah blah blah, etc. Fine, I schedule a trip for the morning,

Arrive at the site around 10 AM and find that the DSL modem has been changed out and all the devices are plugged in to it rather than the site's usual router. Apparently the fact that AT&T was here and replaced equipment immediately before everything stopped working wasn't worth mentioning.

I reconnect everything to the correct devices and the internal app at least comes up working, but no internet still. We're set up for a bridged modem where our router is handling PPPoE.

Turns out that the AT&T NVG589 doesn't support bridge mode at all. Great...

Call AT&T tech that was on site, no answer. Call his manager and get a promise to have a new modem out in 20 minutes.

45 minutes later, manager arrives with a NVG510 which runs the exact same software and thus has the same problem.

It's now 11:45 AM and I'm still sitting here browsing forums waiting for the manager to return with a third modem, which he's not entirely convinced will support bridge mode either.


loving hell AT&T, how hard is it to have a modem that's JUST A MOTHERFUCKING MODEM AND NOTHING ELSE?

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

wolrah posted:

loving hell AT&T, how hard is it to have a modem that's JUST A MOTHERFUCKING MODEM AND NOTHING ELSE?

Because they can't charge as much in rental fees if they do only that.

MC Fruit Stripe
Nov 26, 2002

around and around we go
I know I am going to face this at every job for the rest of my life, but I can still hate it. It just ruins my mood when people run into something they don't understand, do absolutely no research, send an email to a group of people about it, and wash their hands of it. Bullshit, get back here, I'm going to watch you as you dig in and find this thing.

I've got a million examples and so does everyone else, but someone from our operations team sent my team an email saying hey can you send me X log because he can't find it. 1) No., 2) With 5 minutes of research, using little more than timestamps and email history, I was able to determine that that log doesn't exist in this version of code so of course you can't find it. I did this a curiosity because I was wondered what could be so hard about opening a text file.

But this is way, way too much work for most people. It's far easier to just be like "yeah I opened the folder and the file wasn't there, so I emailed a bunch of people, I feel like I put in a good day today". Just, ugh.

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

I'm the exact opposite, I'll be completely silent while I spend way too much time trying to figure out a problem to try and avoid sounding like an ignorant doofus when I do speak up. I wanna exhaust every last option before I give up (because typically I discover the solution exactly 5 seconds after I hit submit).

Being in the middle somewhere is probably better, but eh, humans gonna human.

Moey
Oct 22, 2010

I LIKE TO MOVE IT

Thanks Ants posted:

Why bother using RFC 1918 addresses in your LAN when you can just pick some numbers that you think look cool?

The previous network guy here had stuff in our DMZ natt'ed from our public IPs to public IPs that we didn't own. No idea how that seemed like a good idea.

Gounads
Mar 13, 2013

Where am I?
How did I get here?

MC Fruit Stripe posted:

I know I am going to face this at every job for the rest of my life, but I can still hate it. It just ruins my mood when people run into something they don't understand, do absolutely no research, send an email to a group of people about it, and wash their hands of it. Bullshit, get back here, I'm going to watch you as you dig in and find this thing.

I've got a million examples and so does everyone else, but someone from our operations team sent my team an email saying hey can you send me X log because he can't find it. 1) No., 2) With 5 minutes of research, using little more than timestamps and email history, I was able to determine that that log doesn't exist in this version of code so of course you can't find it. I did this a curiosity because I was wondered what could be so hard about opening a text file.

But this is way, way too much work for most people. It's far easier to just be like "yeah I opened the folder and the file wasn't there, so I emailed a bunch of people, I feel like I put in a good day today". Just, ugh.

We've all been there.

For things I don't know off the top of my head I've started replying with something like, "I don't know, but here's where I would start looking..."

Bob Morales
Aug 18, 2006


Just wear the fucking mask, Bob

I don't care how many people I probably infected with COVID-19 while refusing to wear a mask, my comfort is far more important than the health and safety of everyone around me!

I'm trying to explain to people that our new system has fields for things the old system never thought of

"I need to put the tracking # in the memo field on the order" WHY
"We can't use that...we need a checkbox to tell us if this order is from the auction place" THE VENDOR IS THE AUCTION HOUSE
"Why can't use part numbers like CHICAGO_WIDGET and TEXAS_WIDGET? How else will I know where the part is being sent?" USE THE LOCATION FIELD

gently caress

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


Gounads posted:

We've all been there.

For things I don't know off the top of my head I've started replying with something like, "I don't know, but here's where I would start looking..."

20% of the emails my boss sends in response to people wanting my time for stuff is just a nicer worded "gently caress off, do some work for yourself".

Arsten
Feb 18, 2003

:v: So, I got that new version of Windows. Like 11?
:eng101: You mean Windows 10 Anniversary Update?
:v: No....It might be 12.
:eng99: Uh huh. What about it?
:v: Well, now when I log in, I'll be sitting there awhile and it'll tell me I have email.
:eng99: Okay?
:v: Well, the last windows didn't do that.
:eng99: Turn off notifications.
:v: How do I do that?
:eng99: Click the start button and then settings and go to-
:v: Goddamn! Why can't they keep everything the same as last version?! WHAT is a start button?
:eng99: The windows symbol on the bottom left? That's been there for like 21 years?
:v: That's not a button, that's a widget!
:eng99: .....I have....a conference call. Please go down the hall for help.


:smithicide:

xzzy posted:

Because they can't charge as much in rental fees if they do only that.

You think AT&T would worry about capability for their modems' rental rates? Hah. That's a good joke. Now tell the one about Comcast not charging a rental fee even if you don't have a rental. :v:

Khisanth Magus
Mar 31, 2011

Vae Victus
I was talking to my manager today, and he said that after the 1st of the year, when promotions are no longer frozen, he wants to promote me to team lead of a new team being formed under him. Which would be kind of interesting, it is a 2 position bump and the person I know who has that job title and hasn't been here too much longer than me makes almost twice what I make(and unlike team leads at most places he still gets to spend a good amount of time actually doing stuff, not spending all his time in meetings and managing). However, considering how badly I just got burned by the department head, I honestly can't really get much enthusiasm because I honestly have no idea if it will just be denied by said department head, just like the raise I was supposed to get this month. The whole "approve raise, wait until it gets to final approval from CEO stage, and then withdraw approval" stunt the head of IT pulled has pretty much stripped away all the good will and cautious optimism I had started to get about this company.

MF_James
May 8, 2008
I CANNOT HANDLE BEING CALLED OUT ON MY DUMBASS OPINIONS ABOUT ANTI-VIRUS AND SECURITY. I REALLY LIKE TO THINK THAT I KNOW THINGS HERE

INSTEAD I AM GOING TO WHINE ABOUT IT IN OTHER THREADS SO MY OPINION CAN FEEL VALIDATED IN AN ECHO CHAMBER I LIKE

It's one of those days where everything sucks. Nothing is specifically broken, but I'm working on some shortcut changes in group policy and group policy isn't exactly designed to do what we're trying to, I'm replacing an html shortcut with an .exe (don't ask), so you'd think I just switch the html to delete and add a new shortcut for the .exe right? TOO loving EASY BITCHES. The html shortcut has permissions that need carried over, the .exe runs a script that will carry those permissions, but it obviously needs run once first for that to happen. We have other dependencies such that I can't change the name of the shortcut, so both will have the same name and other stuff ughhh I'm sick of thinking about this and I want to put my fist through something right now.

Time to go for a walk.

*edit* it's not that GP isn't designed to do what we're trying to, it is, but to the extent that I need stuff to work out and the dependencies etc, at least from what I've been trying so far, GP isn't exactly made to deal with it.

MF_James fucked around with this message at 19:34 on Aug 4, 2016

Fil5000
Jun 23, 2003

HOLD ON GUYS I'M POSTING ABOUT INTERNET ROBOTS
This week I learned (in his absence) that my coworker runs the bulk of his process off a 900mb access database. So now I'm drinking.

BaseballPCHiker
Jan 16, 2006

Khisanth Magus posted:

I was talking to my manager today, and he said that after the 1st of the year, when promotions are no longer frozen, he wants to promote me to team lead of a new team being formed under him. Which would be kind of interesting, it is a 2 position bump and the person I know who has that job title and hasn't been here too much longer than me makes almost twice what I make(and unlike team leads at most places he still gets to spend a good amount of time actually doing stuff, not spending all his time in meetings and managing). However, considering how badly I just got burned by the department head, I honestly can't really get much enthusiasm because I honestly have no idea if it will just be denied by said department head, just like the raise I was supposed to get this month. The whole "approve raise, wait until it gets to final approval from CEO stage, and then withdraw approval" stunt the head of IT pulled has pretty much stripped away all the good will and cautious optimism I had started to get about this company.

I've seen and experienced this before in prior jobs. They pull the promise a raise pull it away stunt with IT, and yet miraculously when a sales guy needs a promotion it magically happens. Bottom line if the company values an employee enough they make it happen. Dont let them keep making empty promises, go out and find something else if you want to get a raise.

FlapYoJacks
Feb 12, 2009
Today I asked a off-site contractor if he had anything to commit now that git is finally back up and running so I can start integrating our software into our build system.

him: "Nah"
me: "Are... are you sure? The last commit was over a week ago. Surely you have something that hasn't been committed correct ?"
him: "I'll be doing a commit tonight"
me: "Should I start working on the other part of our software then ?"
him: "Naw, I've made some changes there too."
me: "I'm getting concerned; non-consistent commits make it difficult for me to manage our builds, also no updates in Asana or via email or SMS or any other form of communication."

:argh:" Dude, why are you hamming me now?"
:stare: "Uh, what? How is me expressing concern over you not actually doing any work for over 9 days 'Hammering you'?"
:argh: "I really need my mental state to be clear right now!"


What the gently caress is going on here? This guy took most of July off, he's supposed to help with board bring-up in 2 weeks, and his portion of the software is like... 5% done.
I feel like I am stuck in-between a rock and a hard place here. His bus factor is really high, but he is going to royally gently caress me over as well.

Gounads
Mar 13, 2013

Where am I?
How did I get here?
I don't understand people who don't commit multiple times a day.

nominal
Oct 13, 2007

I've never tried dried apples.
What are they?
Pork Pro
poo poo pissing me off: people calling for support and somehow being midway through a conversation about who the gently caress knows what when I answer their phone call.

I don't even understand how this happens - our queue is almost never backed up, and most of our support lines don't even have any goofy IVR for them to jump through. Do they really get that bored in the time between it takes them to dial and me to answer that they absolutely NEED some human interaction to keep themselves sane?

I feel like I've had this on about every single call this week. I used to wait for them to finish doing whatever they're doing, but now I just gleefully barrel on through with my "Thanks for calling blahblahblah, how can I help you?" schpiel or else they'll keep talking about their lawns or their coworkers or their lunch forever.

On the plus side, this did lead to getting to overhear one lady yell "VERONICA, PUT THEM TITTIES AWAY AND STEP AWAY FROM THAT COUNTER". Which is a particularly odd thing to hear, considering we mostly support government offices, instead of plastic surgeons or strip joints.

Khisanth Magus
Mar 31, 2011

Vae Victus

BaseballPCHiker posted:

I've seen and experienced this before in prior jobs. They pull the promise a raise pull it away stunt with IT, and yet miraculously when a sales guy needs a promotion it magically happens. Bottom line if the company values an employee enough they make it happen. Dont let them keep making empty promises, go out and find something else if you want to get a raise.

I'm willing to give this place a bit of time to get its poo poo together, for a variety of reasons. Good benefits(including real medical insurance, which seems to be a rarity in this industry right now), the work isn't too bad, and the work environment is pretty good.

Also, unlike other people who have posted in this thread, I can't just "make a call and have 5 interviews lined up within 2 days" or whatever someone else posted. I have pretty much no contacts anywhere. When I was downsized from my last employer I went 3 months with no job before I got this one.

If I keep getting the run around on promotions and raises from the department head(against the desires of my direct manager) I may start doing investigations elsewhere, but I'm not the kind of person who is constantly awash in interview and job offers.

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Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


Today I found out that a service I decommissioned four days ago was actually still in use. I have CYA emails covering the three separate occasions where I asked for confirmation that it wasn't being used anymore so I'm mostly a spectator to this utter clown show.

"Can we get some of the data back?" lol nope. Unlucky.

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