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does five thirty eight dot com do a senate forecast? i like their aggregate model because their results agree with my preconceived notions about how the election should be going and i'd like to know what the exact prospects for senate control are
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I don't know if it's the lighting but his hair looks even worse than usual.
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DolphinCop posted:i like their aggregate model because their results agree with my preconceived notions about how the election should be going a uh probably not the best metric
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axeil posted:Touche. I was being a bit dickish - it is actually super cool. I'm super excited about improved relations with Cuba, too. Trade-as-anti-war is great, too.
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A Winner is Jew posted:Not only that, but medical and dental. okay cool I'm in. I've just been giving this shill away. Do I have to read all of the posts though? For real that might be a deal killer.
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DACK FAYDEN posted:Also, if that company's competitors also do it, the price goes down, and a lot of the "money made" ends up being "millions of consumers pay a dollar less" or whatever. Tiny benefits individually, and even if they add up they're certainly not shareable to the few people who suffer comparatively catastrophic job losses. Those benefits can be shared by raising taxes (such that millions of consumers have a little less money) and spending the revenue on giving incomes or education to the unemployed
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DolphinCop posted:does five thirty eight dot com do a senate forecast? i like their aggregate model because their results agree with my preconceived notions about how the election should be going and i'd like to know what the exact prospects for senate control are not right now (too little polling going on), but I think that they said they will once the races heat up and there are more polls
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Aug 4, 2016 20:40
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Also, here's a fun one - if you scroll down on the NowCast: http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/#now There are TEN states that don't have a Democratic victory within margin of error - and that's it.
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radical meme posted:That is quite possibly the most contorted interpretation of what happened that I've seen yet, so I'm assuming it's sarcasm. Other than your anger about my use of Obama as a metonymy, what was contorted about what I said exactly?
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DolphinCop posted:does five thirty eight dot com do a senate forecast? i like their aggregate model because their results agree with my preconceived notions about how the election should be going and i'd like to know what the exact prospects for senate control are Well, Dems are poised to pick up a seat here in Wisconsin if Feingold keeps dancing all over Johnson in the polls.
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Hermsgervørden posted:Is there a resume help thread? I'm trying to format this application to the D&D hivemind. Also do globalist shills get a 401k? No application necessary. All you have to do is assign imaginary motives, and even statements, to posters who say anything contrary to what's acceptable in mainstream political discourse. Remember, all trade agreements are good, trickle down will work, and we don't need to protect American jobs, at all, because we'll be getting UBI any day now.
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Traveller posted:I don't know if it's the lighting but his hair looks even worse than usual. uh probably not the best metric
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Civilized Fishbot posted:Those benefits can be shared by raising taxes (such that millions of consumers have a little less money) and spending the revenue on giving incomes or education to the unemployed Would you say the benefits will... trickle down?
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Civilized Fishbot posted:not right now (too little polling going on), but I think that they said they will once the races heat up and there are more polls New american economy should be based around increasing the amount of political polling being conducted.
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Noam Chomsky posted:No application necessary. All you have to do is assign imaginary motives, and even statements, to posters who say anything contrary to what's acceptable in mainstream political discourse. Remember, all trade agreements are good, trickle down will work, and we don't need to protect American jobs, at all, because we'll be getting UBI any day now. Lol yes tell us more about people assigning imaginary motives to statements 
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Noam Chomsky posted:No application necessary. All you have to do is assign imaginary motives, and even statements, to posters who say anything contrary to what's acceptable in mainstream political discourse. 
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I gotta admit I am kind of selfishly all for expanded global trade because I figured it was inevitable in college and got in on a job market that profits from it.
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St. John Coltrane posted:Trump coming up in Portland, Maine live: I tuned in just long enough to confirm he's still talking about Obama paying Iran a 400k ( I thought it was 400 million) ransom in small unmarked bills from multiple countries. Good. Proceed, Trumpernor.
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theflyingorc posted:Also, here's a fun one - if you scroll down on the NowCast: Technically 9, unless you're counting Nebraska's 2 districts as 2 different states.
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Noam Chomsky posted:Would you say the benefits will... trickle down? Don't be deceptive. 'Trickle down' economics do not involve taxes. Levying taxes on the people who reap the largesse of trade deals and turning those taxes in to social service is not trickle-down but shake-down economics.
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Noam Chomsky posted:No application necessary. All you have to do is assign imaginary motives, and even statements, to posters who say anything contrary to what's acceptable in mainstream political discourse. Remember, all trade agreements are good, trickle down will work, and we don't need to protect American jobs, at all, because we'll be getting UBI any day now. Holy poo poo, how did you get the job as hiring manager for the hive mind?
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DolphinCop posted:does five thirty eight dot com do a senate forecast? i like their aggregate model because their results agree with my preconceived notions about how the election should be going and i'd like to know what the exact prospects for senate control are http://election.princeton.edu/todays-senate-seat-count-histogram/
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Hermsgervørden posted:Holy poo poo, how did you get the job as hiring manager for the hive mind? Consume the previous one and gain his strength
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I don't know anything about TPP's specifics, but it's really weird to read people who are normally leftist-seeming talking about how thin profit margins are, how a situation will ~probably be somewhere in between~ helping small business and helping the richest capital owners, and how if you loosen up restrictions on corporations and let markets run free it'll work out better for everyone.
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Noam Chomsky posted:Would you say the benefits will... trickle down? No, not at all. RiotGearEpsilon posted:'Trickle down' economics do not involve taxes. Levying taxes on the people who reap the largesse of trade deals and turning those taxes in to social service is not trickle-down but shake-down economics. Except I don't like the negative connotations of the term "shake-down"
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Ditocoaf posted:I don't know anything about TPP's specifics, but it's really weird to read people who are normally leftist-seeming talking about how thin profit margins are, how a situation will ~probably be somewhere in between~ helping small business and helping the richest capital owners, and how if you loosen up restrictions on corporations and let markets run free it'll work out better for everyone. Aw did we mis-signal our virtue again, oops.
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RiotGearEpsilon posted:Don't be deceptive. 'Trickle down' economics do not involve taxes. Levying taxes on the people who reap the largesse of trade deals and turning those taxes in to social service is not trickle-down but shake-down economics. It's a good thing the US is so well known for taxing high income earners and using that additional money to provide social safety nets for the poor, otherwise this could be a big mess!
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Mel Mudkiper posted:I gotta admit I am kind of selfishly all for expanded global trade because I figured it was inevitable in college and got in on a job market that profits from it. Free trade is great for a lot of people. My only original point was that I don't blame people for souring on it after a lot of manufacturing jobs have been lost to offshoring and even if NAFTA was not the direct cause of that, the two are linked in many people's minds. I get that nobody care what the average voter thinks, for some reason, but my post that kicked off so many posters vitriolic idiocy was just pointing that out.
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BiohazrD posted:It's a good thing the US is so well known for taxing high income earners and using that additional money to provide social safety nets for the poor, otherwise this could be a big mess! Taxing high income earners and creating social safety nets is politically difficult, but not nearly as much as preventing trade from happening
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axeil posted:Oh poo poo they found me! Quick run! Please don't send me to C-SPAM! Yo C-SPAM owns, you can call sometime an idiot and not have to post walls of pedantic Aristotelean logic proofs to back it up. I mean it makes for lovely discourse but good comedy
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Civilized Fishbot posted:Taxing high income earners and creating social safety nets is politically difficult, but not nearly as much as preventing trade from happening So just say gently caress it and give a handout to big business then?
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Ditocoaf posted:I don't know anything about TPP's specifics, but it's really weird to read people who are normally leftist-seeming talking about how thin profit margins are, how a situation will ~probably be somewhere in between~ helping small business and helping the richest capital owners, and how if you loosen up restrictions on corporations and let markets run free it'll work out better for everyone. Did I miss a "They Live"-esque filter for this thread?
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RiotGearEpsilon posted:Don't be deceptive. 'Trickle down' economics do not involve taxes. Levying taxes on the people who reap the largesse of trade deals and turning those taxes in to social service is not trickle-down but shake-down economics. Like we'll ever have a government again that will raise taxes by an appreciable amount. Taxes bad, cut cut cut forever.
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I don't know anything about what you are talking about, but you aren't saying the right liberal sounding words.
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BiohazrD posted:So just say gently caress it and give a handout to big business then? 
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Noam Chomsky posted:No application necessary. All you have to do is assign imaginary motives, and even statements, to posters who say anything contrary to what's acceptable in mainstream political discourse. Remember, all trade agreements are good, trickle down will work, and we don't need to protect American jobs, at all, because we'll be getting UBI any day now. 
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I am glad this has expanded from the DNC thread
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BiohazrD posted:So just say gently caress it and give a handout to big business then? no, we shouldn't do that, we should demand that big businesses give their money to poor people. this would make trade, an inevitable part of the 21st century economy, into a completely good thing
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If Trump tries to bring up the Iran thing in debates it will backfire so hard. "That payment was a result of an ongoing court case from over three decades ago. America fulfills its debt obligations. This is a concept Mr Trump may not be familiar with."
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lol i'm not the one hammering on one poster because he dared to say that he can see why free trade is not popular with many americans also i love me some salt
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