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Koesj posted:But you're building cities for 200k cims tops and probably laying around multi-laned avenues and all kinds of fancy freeways. Why not arbitrarily limit yourself and go for either a different kind of urban planning (more European maybe?), having house rules on what kinds of roads you'll allow yourself to use, have a minimum amount of PT coverage/ridership, etc. I know it's hackneyed, but hey, bonsai for nerds. I actually limit myself by playing on maps with rougher terrain. I really got into a Monaco map a few months ago because it was a really good challenge to build on. Plus maps with mountains look cooler anyways.
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Bold Robot posted:Has there been any noise from the devs recently about when the next update will be or what their plans are? I assume the answer is no but I figure it's easier to ask here than go spelunking on Reddit. I was informed by my girlfriend (who is Finnish) that basically absolutely nobody works in Finland through the July/August period, so I'm guessing they're not in. I swam in a lake while I was over there. It was cold.
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Do passenger trains have a practical use compared to subway? Money is hardly an issue in C:S and I think cost was the only benefit trains have. But trains look cooler than subways in general 
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Avocados posted:Do passenger trains have a practical use compared to subway? Money is hardly an issue in C:S and I think cost was the only benefit trains have. But trains look cooler than subways in general
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I installed a whole bunch of mods now that I'm getting back into the game, and the quality improvements some bring is amazing. I always toyed with the idea of a city where there's no private traffic (all pedestrian, service and public) and I think it might be possible. Got some vehicle assets and that one mod that lets you do more customization on public transport lines. I'll also probably say gently caress it and just use an unlock all mod and unlimited money, this time around. The real game is the traffic/city layout anyways. Unrelated, how do people feel about rush hour? It sounds like it has good ideas but also it does some pretty big changes and sometimes that doesn't go well with mods in practice.
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Police Automaton posted:I installed a whole bunch of mods now that I'm getting back into the game, and the quality improvements some bring is amazing. I always toyed with the idea of a city where there's no private traffic (all pedestrian, service and public) and I think it might be possible. Got some vehicle assets and that one mod that lets you do more customization on public transport lines. I'll also probably say gently caress it and just use an unlock all mod and unlimited money, this time around. The real game is the traffic/city layout anyways. I'd say that Rush Hour is a must have mod. It makes the traffic simulation more difficult and, if you have After Dark, makes tourism actually meaningful. I think it increases the number of tourists that come into your city on top of making leisure buildings work as hotels, so if a tourist can reach one they'll spend the night and more time in your city instead of leaving. This also means that taxis suddenly have a purpose, as tourists really love them. With Rush Hour you can also shut down a lot of your public transportation at night and let taxis take up the slack.  If you're interested in more difficult/interesting traffic simulation grab Citizen Lifecycle Rebalance and Realistic Population and Consumption. http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=654707599 http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=426163185 The Lifecycle Rebalance makes it so that low density cims greatly favor driving over biking/taxis, while high density cims will bike more often and take a taxi almost as much as they drive. Younger cims will bike more often, while senior cims will prefer driving or taxis. High wealth cims will also prefer driving more than low wealth cims. It also randomizes the age and education level which cims immigrate with so you don't run into death waves for zoning too quickly. The Realistic Population mod readjusts the game so that low density homes are single or double households (depending on the model of the house) as opposed to multiple families in vanilla. High density buildings, commercial buildings, and industrial buildings have their stats determined by the volume of their build box and house many more residents and jobs by default. Some larger assets can have hundreds of residents or jobs provided by them. It also touches on commercial in some ways that may conflict with Rush Hour, but I haven't noticed any problems there. It's also compatible with the plopable rico mod. Together the mods make built up urban centers a lot more congested, while in comparison the now lower population low density residential will drive a lot more to keep up road traffic. These two mods with Rush Hour are pretty great, you get serious congestion during the morning and evening commute. The values for Realistic Population and the Lifecycle Rebalance can be configured with some pretty simple .xml files. I usually increase the square footage per person for high density residential to keep my populations lower. Also, if you want to have a car-free city you might want to grab Network Extensions. http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=478820060 It includes pedestrian/service/commercial only roads, and you can enable just those if they're all you want. This should allow you to have a pedestrian only city since you can't ever really get rid of all car traffic otherwise. Avocados posted:Do passenger trains have a practical use compared to subway? Money is hardly an issue in C:S and I think cost was the only benefit trains have. But trains look cooler than subways in general The underground tracks can be pretty tricky to lay down on certain terrains, but other than that no there's not really any benefit to trains over subway besides cost. But yeah, trains do look cooler so I usually just use trains and trams instead of subways. zedprime posted:It think its been brushed upon in different mods, but in vanilla you are actively discouraged from using trains as a local transport option because cim preferences are set assuming its the sort of thing you ride to get out of town. So where cims will actively go out of their way to ride buses, trams, and subways, they will actively avoid commuter train lines. I've actually had a lot of success using rail as as a transportation option with vanilla. Cims will definitely take a train across town if you give them the option. I usually set up my bus routes to feed into tram/train stations.  This is the usage I had on my map about a year ago. Pretty much all of that was local use.
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http://imgur.com/a/TT4xZ I downloaded a bunch of new assets and fixed a bunch of dependency issues, luckily I have 16GB of RAM and the game loaded on a SSD so my load times aren't too terrible despite 800+ total assets installed.
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Mandalay posted:For a while I re-installed Simcity 5 Do you uh... do you need someone to come check on you? 
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What I'd do in change things so you can also build metro on the surface and elevated, jack up the cost if building/maintaining it underground, rename the network City Rail, and rename the other Heavy Rail.
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Police Automaton posted:I always toyed with the idea of a city where there's no private traffic (all pedestrian, service and public) and I think it might be possible.
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MikeJF posted:What I'd do in change things so you can also build metro on the surface and elevated, jack up the cost if building/maintaining it underground, rename the network City Rail, and rename the other Heavy Rail. This is actually going to happen. Bloody Penguin and another modder and working on overhauling metro to include surface and elevated tracks, visible cars, etc. I think the last estimation for the metro overhaul is early this month.
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Fish Fry Andy posted:This is actually going to happen. Bloody Penguin and another modder and working on overhauling metro to include surface and elevated tracks, visible cars, etc. I think the last estimation for the metro overhaul is early this month. On the one hand, I am excited for this, on the other, I hate relying on mods for things I feel should be a core part of the game. 
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ToastyPotato posted:On the one hand, I am excited for this, on the other, I hate relying on mods for things I feel should be a core part of the game. This is usually my attitude with games but the mod community here seems to be doing 90% of the development for this game since release, playing skylines without mods is like buying a Paradox studio title on release then never getting any dlc or patches, you'll be stuck with a pretty unfinished product.
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My fear with deep gameplay mods like this is that should the mod team no longer update it for what ever reason, assuming the game is still being patched, then you're hosed. Patch breaks mod. Mod is dead. All your work using that mod is dead. It's such a gamble.
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ToastyPotato posted:On the one hand, I am excited for this, on the other, I hate relying on mods for things I feel should be a core part of the game. They really should just hire Bloody Penguin and maybe Propane Dragon. Rush Hour is basically what the After Dark DLC/patch should have been. Like, if I remember right CO said that traffic will change between day and night time, and that just straight up doesn't happen in the vanilla game. Baronjutter posted:This is usually my attitude with games but the mod community here seems to be doing 90% of the development for this game since release, playing skylines without mods is like buying a Paradox studio title on release then never getting any dlc or patches, you'll be stuck with a pretty unfinished product. Hopefully the next DLC/expansion pack focuses more on the underlying economic simulation since modders seem to bee unaable to touch it. Their community manager said that they're aware of the city-painter criticism and are taking it "seriously". turn off the TV fucked around with this message at 17:30 on Aug 5, 2016 |
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ToastyPotato posted:My fear with deep gameplay mods like this is that should the mod team no longer update it for what ever reason, assuming the game is still being patched, then you're hosed. Patch breaks mod. Mod is dead. All your work using that mod is dead. It's such a gamble. Are you really playing the same city for a year+ though? Also I don't think this has even happened once yet, the modders are pretty organized and the few times someone "retires" someone else takes the code and keeps it updated or rolls the features into something else.
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Baronjutter posted:Are you really playing the same city for a year+ though? Also I don't think this has even happened once yet, the modders are pretty organized and the few times someone "retires" someone else takes the code and keeps it updated or rolls the features into something else. I still have my first city that I play. I play at a very glacial pace though. Taking huge breaks.
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Baronjutter posted:Are you really playing the same city for a year+ though? Also I don't think this has even happened once yet, the modders are pretty organized and the few times someone "retires" someone else takes the code and keeps it updated or rolls the features into something else. There are a few mods which are dead in the water, but I think it's mostly the ones that got folded into the base game. Fine road heights, the terrain texture replacer, etc. It kind of sucks because there's a really good looking texture set for the terrain replacer that hasn't been converted into a map theme. There are also quite a few old buildings that were never updated for night lights, unfortunately.
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I bought this game when it came out, but due to a terrible computer I never really had a chance to give it any attention. Now that I have a real PC I am ready to get back into it, but before I do I have a question! Is it possible to make small villages/hamlets in this game? I know that the objective is to build a massive metropolis, but I've always been interested in the opposite.
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If you're going for the population milestones, no, not really, unless you want to build a whole bunch of hamlets for the same progress as one city. Thankfully you can just play with all the milestones unlocked and use your income as your progress blocker. edit: I mean, it's possible, it's just not viable for progression. CJacobs fucked around with this message at 17:47 on Aug 5, 2016 |
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Hot Dog Day #82 posted:I bought this game when it came out, but due to a terrible computer I never really had a chance to give it any attention. Now that I have a real PC I am ready to get back into it, but before I do I have a question! Is it possible to make small villages/hamlets in this game? I know that the objective is to build a massive metropolis, but I've always been interested in the opposite. There's nothing forcing you to make large cities. Judging from all of the youtube videos of this game that I've seen a lot of people just make small towns and meticulously detail them. e: If you want to make a lot of small towns I'd grab the 81 tiles mod and look for 81 tile maps in the workshop. turn off the TV fucked around with this message at 17:53 on Aug 5, 2016 |
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So this thing just appeared in my regular reading feed: http://www.vox.com/2016/8/4/12342806/barcelona-superblocks Has anyone attempted to build something like that in C:S, and how does the traffic sim deal with that kind of design? Does it create the right behaviour or would you just go nuts trying to keep the traffic lights from appearing where you want them the least?
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Tippis posted:So this thing just appeared in my regular reading feed: http://www.vox.com/2016/8/4/12342806/barcelona-superblocks This is basically a variation on the fused grid. A long while back I had a roughly 100k-cim city using my own implementation of the concept and it worked well. Here are a couple of albums: http://imgur.com/a/gFLMp http://imgur.com/a/vRVWY In general it fits nicely with C:S' traffic model since it's so tightly based around trunk->branch->leaf network layout, which is what C:S likes. The trickiest thing I could see with the specific variant from your article is that C:S doesn't do well with one-way streets for local traffic, in particular because services can't propagate for poo poo on them. Personally I think service radii for almost all buildings should be bumped up considerably, like double or more, which would help with that issue.
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I've done somewhat similar schemes, because a one way street branching off a main street doesn't create a traffic light. So if you make sort of mini roundabouts within blocks you can squeeze extra intersections out of a (mega or regular) block with less traffic lights. But yeah, its kind of lovely for efficient service propagation.
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Any room to shamelessly plug some goon-made assets? Just finished Suburban Station, a three-track underground train station which will connect directly with underground pedestrian path networks.  4 x 15 lot, 20,000 tris, 200 tri lod, 512 x 1024 texture. Tried to keep it down as much as possible, but it's still pretty poly heavy... don't place a whole bunch of them. Need some feedback on whatever terrible bugs are in it so I can fix it tomorrow morning while I'm hungover as all hell.
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donoteat posted:Any room to shamelessly plug some goon-made assets? This is great, I'm definitely going to find a place for it in my city. edit: working on some new stuff of my own, a basic shipping warehouse. Will probably do a few different sizes for variety. RICO, level 1 industrial. 
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I've just finished 2 maps, one which I taught myself the basics of map making with, and one which I've spent a long time planning out and making optimally conditioned to how I like to build cities. I present Zoe Bay, and the theoretically better version of it, Mountain Bay.   I'm not quite sure if Mountain Bay actually uses the terrain theme I've created for it, because I'm dumb and an idiot, so I'd appreciate it if you guys can download it and test to make sure it uses the right theme textures. Additionally, I tried to keep the requirements down by not using stacks of different trees for landscaping, am I right in thinking that is best practice? Any other criticisms/suggestions/etc are more than welcome too, I've really got no idea what I'm doing, but I'll take all input on board and update the maps with anything I can be bothered fixing.
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New expansion will be announced next week at Gamescom, according to official social media account.
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   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzDfXUQ8vD8 Still trying to nail down that just-postwar-or-maybe-just-prewar feel down.
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Anything pre or just post war wouldn't have those massive 3 lane freeways, but otherwise looks pretty darn good.
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Baronjutter posted:Anything pre or just post war wouldn't have those massive 3 lane freeways, but otherwise looks pretty darn good.  There's not a lot of maps which don't just use the default freeways everywhere, and it's expensive to replace big chunks of that with boulevards and state routes. But point taken.
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Looks amazing, awesome job!
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Ofaloaf posted:
just play with infinite money, obv.
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Gamerofthegame posted:just play with infinite money, obv. Yeah I was like "expensive?!" there's money in this game?!
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I kind of wish they had made the city managing part more interesting, because there really isn't any point to it.
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Gamerofthegame posted:just play with infinite money, obv.  Which is also why I'm upset so many cool buildings now are all RICO ploppables instead of growables.
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I always try to keep my city in the black, that's the level of financial management I'll do. But as long as you're in the black your money is essentially infinite if you just wait long enough. Playing with unlimited money just skip out the "sitting around waiting for money" stage. Just set a rule that you have to stay in the black and you're golden. The few times I played with money on I found the first couple hours of the game involved a lot of waiting around, then my income would explode and I couldn't spend it fast enough, so it was essentially infinite. Turning it on from the start just skips annoyingly waiting around for the cash to roll in.
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You could always use my starter city to skip the boring phase...
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