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Jesus Christ, that's like the wrestling version of an Eli Roth movie. And I'm an idiot because I decided to watch that garbage instead of catching up on the G1.
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Alain Post posted:Speaking of Arn/Regal, does anyone have any good examples of matches that felt like they were dropped in from another promotion? I just re-watched Greg Valentine / Ronnie Garvin from the 1990 Rumble (an awesome loving match that Shave inexplicably gave ** to), and it really seems like someone dropped a stiff southern blood feud into a bright, shiny WWF arena for some reason. Only real concession to WWF-style logic at the time was how Garvin's shinguard somehow completely negated a figure-4. This is basically an 1994 NJPW juniors match dropped into 1994 AAA: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KSfum_s5QM Well except for the stupid rear end finish and Tirantes being Tirantes Spermgod fucked around with this message at 02:43 on Aug 4, 2016 |
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I'm not entirely shocked that people would do that sort of thing in the ring because I've seen a lot of really stupid bumps that should've killed people. What surprises me is that the audience looks like a very normal crowd, and that they're so close to it. Dude was breaking light tubes and using bladed weapons 2 feet from the front row with no guardrail.
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Alain Post posted:Speaking of Arn/Regal, does anyone have any good examples of matches that felt like they were dropped in from another promotion? I just re-watched Greg Valentine / Ronnie Garvin from the 1990 Rumble (an awesome loving match that Shave inexplicably gave ** to), and it really seems like someone dropped a stiff southern blood feud into a bright, shiny WWF arena for some reason. Only real concession to WWF-style logic at the time was how Garvin's shinguard somehow completely negated a figure-4. A feud so good it appeared on both WCW and WWE pay per views in the same year Heavenly Bodies vs. Rock N' Roll Express - WCW Superbrawl 1993 Heavenly Bodies vs. Rock N' Roll Express - WWE Survivor Series 1993
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I don't really wanna watch that video but Masashi Takeda is actually a real good wrestler when he's not doing deathmatch stuff (nothing against deathmatches as a form but I find modern ones are generally pretty bad). The guy is a U-FILE CAMP trainee, real shooter with an 11-4 record in the Japanese sleaze MMA promotions, and one of the better current guys at worked grappling (which admittedly is a pretty low bar to clear since the death of both shoot style and strong style). I liked his recent AJPW Jr. title match vs. Atsushi Aoki. It's just that he also loves deathmatches so much that in college he used to challenge people to arm wrestling on a table full of thumbtacks.
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For those who don't want to see it, it's a deathmatch featuring a spot with a board that has three groups of several pairs of scissors, the handles taped together and attached to the board so that you have about 20 pairs of scissor blades facing skyward at slight angles. One wrestler drops another back-first onto the scissors. (The move is like Finn Balor's NXT finisher or Goldust's old curtain call.) There doesn't appear to be any gimmick to it--the guy gets multiple deep puncture wounds in his back. You can see the blades come out of his flesh when he rolls away for the pin. I guess if you held me at gunpoint and made me choose, I might rather take that bump than the Vic Grimes bump, but just barely.
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Alain Post posted:Speaking of Arn/Regal, does anyone have any good examples of matches that felt like they were dropped in from another promotion? I just re-watched Greg Valentine / Ronnie Garvin from the 1990 Rumble (an awesome loving match that Shave inexplicably gave ** to), and it really seems like someone dropped a stiff southern blood feud into a bright, shiny WWF arena for some reason. Only real concession to WWF-style logic at the time was how Garvin's shinguard somehow completely negated a figure-4. little 8-9 year old me was ALL loving IN on this.
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Well, it wasn't Shane Douglas beats Bam Bam Bigelow with a suplex through the world's smallest table dumb, but that was pretty dumb all the same.
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Takeda is loving nuts. If you've never seen some of his deathmatch stuff before it's pretty grizzly. Freedoms itself is a pretty nuts promotion, pretty much the absolute worst of the FMW style mid 90's ultra hardcore Japanese deathmatches mixed with a bunch of the Big Japan guys who were notorious for working stiff. Its part of that loose 90's Japanese style deathmatch revival that's started up in recent years, if you've ever seen any matches from the Mexican promotion DTU it's in the same vein.
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Although I vastly prefer other styles, I can take most deathmatch stuff. But it's the syringe matches that get to me. I can't watch those. 
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sticklefifer posted:Although I vastly prefer other styles, I can take most deathmatch stuff. But it's the syringe matches that get to me. I can't watch those. What in the world is a syringe match?
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Just what it sounds like. Syringes are weapons. I saw one where a guy had a needle poking entirely through his cheek to the point where you could see it in his open mouth, and that was enough for me.
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Halloween Jack posted:For those who don't want to see it, it's a deathmatch featuring a spot with a board that has three groups of several pairs of scissors, the handles taped together and attached to the board so that you have about 20 pairs of scissor blades facing skyward at slight angles. To add to this, the scissors are all open and the blades are about 2/12 or 3 inches long. A lot of them go, like, all the way in. It's gross.
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The scar tissue on that guy with the pink hair is something else.
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CityMidnightJunky posted:The scar tissue on that guy with the pink hair is something else. They're shoot scars but IIRC people have said that he might have had a bunch of them done through scarification to make himself look scarier. Also, lets be real, probably did it to look like Tanaka.
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Alain Post posted:Speaking of Arn/Regal, does anyone have any good examples of matches that felt like they were dropped in from another promotion? I probably would have gotten sick of it quickly, but Samoa Joe vs Kurt Angle from Lockdown 2008 seems like TNA testing the waters for a new MMA-inspired direction. The weird thing is how fully realised it all is, from the 'big fight' presentation, right down to the weird selling of moves that usually don't get sold. Also, a **** 1/4 match! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_I-4Bmhdadk Tyma fucked around with this message at 15:25 on Aug 4, 2016 |
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Tyma posted:I probably would have gotten sick of it quickly, but Samoa Joe vs Kurt Angle from Lockdown 2008 seems like TNA testing the waters for a new MMA-inspired direction. According to Jim Cornette, the build for that match was all Dutch Mantell's doing, since he'd figured that if you've got a couple of legitimate badasses on your roster, you should probably promote them as legitimate badasses.
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Aug 4, 2016 16:37
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It always gets me how for a guy with one look Kurt Angle seems to have changed bodies several times through his career. I did a legit double-take going from watching some of his WWE stuff to his NJPW match w/ Nakamura. I suppose HGH and somas and injury-induced atrophy will do that to you. He's practically zombified in a lot of TNA stuff.
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magnum_valentino posted:I think that's Hardcore TV 217, which Heyman said was the best episode on a Network interview with Styles. June 16 1997 Here's Paul's comments on it: http://ecwbyshaggs.tripod.com/interview.html quote:Question: What have been your favorite angle/angles? (XXGreenXX)
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So aside from Dusty and Paige's mom, have any other wrestlers named their kids after their own gimmick?
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6EQUJ5 6 7 posted:So aside from Dusty and Paige's mom, have any other wrestlers named their kids after their own gimmick? AJ Styles named one of his sons "Ajay"
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All five of The Undertaker's kid's are named Undertaker. Undertaker Jr., Undertaker III, Undertaker IV, Undertaker V, and Michelle Undertaker Jr.
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Has Cesaro ever used the UFO move while he has worked for the WWE? For reference. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LW8aZTAcpk
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No, he'd receive a Jesus pop everywhere he goes if he had.
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6EQUJ5 6 7 posted:So aside from Dusty and Paige's mom, have any other wrestlers named their kids after their own gimmick? Vince's little-known, youngest kid Gene Jack McMahon.
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ThePariah posted:No, he'd receive a Jesus pop everywhere he goes if he had. Ok, glad I haven't missed it, and seriously....this is something he needs to bust out...even if its for a big match at mania.....which now that I think about, yeah we will never see it.
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remusclaw posted:All five of The Undertaker's kid's are named Undertaker. Undertaker Jr., Undertaker III, Undertaker IV, Undertaker V, and Michelle Undertaker Jr. Definitely worth reading up on his illegitimate son El Hijo Del Undertaker. Real sad stuff, he denied being the father and pinned it on Brian Lee.
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6EQUJ5 6 7 posted:So aside from Dusty and Paige's mom, have any other wrestlers named their kids after their own gimmick?
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6EQUJ5 6 7 posted:So aside from Dusty and Paige's mom, have any other wrestlers named their kids after their own gimmick? All of AJ Style's kids initials are 'AJ'.
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But AJs real initials are AJ
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oldpainless posted:But AJs real initials are AJ mind = blown
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EugeneJ posted:A feud so good it appeared on both WCW and WWE pay per views in the same year
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No. Cornette and Bischoff hated each other. Ole Anderson doing promos for Cornette (for giving his son a job after WCW fired him) cost Ole his job at WCW.
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Are there any backyard/deathmatches that are, you know, good? Wrestling isn't real. So mauling and crippling each other to make up for lack of training or any real concept of storytelling or psychology just seems lazy at best, and downright pathetic at worst. Is there anything out there that proves me wrong?
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6EQUJ5 6 7 posted:So aside from Dusty and Paige's mom, have any other wrestlers named their kids after their own gimmick? Would Brooke Hogan count?
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Amusingly, early Japanese death matches and promotions like FMW were basically a way for Atsushi Onita to keep working without wrecking his body. They emphasized garbage brawling and superficial cuts and basically getting blasted with fireworks over taking big bumps and actually injuring yourself. Much as I like the guy. Mick Foley was the guy who popularized big bump death matches, and boy has he paid for it.
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CityMidnightJunky posted:Are there any backyard/deathmatches that are, you know, good? http://youtu.be/ti44IwjQggY
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IWA's King of the Deathmatch 1995 is a Top 10 PPV of all time.
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That Terry Funk/Onita exploding ring time bomb electric barbed wire death match was amazing.
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