hackbunny posted:

Can someone fill me in on Black Lives Matter? Why are they so feared? I haven't been paying a lot of attention, but it seems to me they do standard protestor stuff. Some people make them sound like a terrorist organization (they can't be that dangerous or the FBI would have already COINTELPROed them to death)

neonnoodle posted:

It's a variation on the types who say their favorite philosopher is some physicist because philosophy don't real, only STEM is true, reals over feels, checkmate feminists.

hackbunny posted:

Can someone fill me in on Black Lives Matter? Why are they so feared? I haven't been paying a lot of attention, but it seems to me they do standard protestor stuff. Some people make them sound like a terrorist organization (they can't be that dangerous or the FBI would have already COINTELPROed them to death)

Space Poodle posted:

They literally don't understand what separates philosophy from douchebags rambling on the internet. They have no loving clue what philosophy even is, but they're pretty sure it's entirely comprised of yelling the loudest.

You see it most often when someone goes to bat for Rand or Harris, at this point. The only reason they can come up with for Rand and Harris (or, I guess, Theodore Dorkshit Beale, Angry Racist Boll Weevil) not being heralded as the obvious geniuses they undoubtedly are, is Regressive Leftists. Even when someone like Dennett goes after Harris for being an arrogant, clueless dipshit.

Woolie Wool posted:

They're black, and according to the black brute stereotype, all black people possess an inborn "thuggish" nature that will cause them to rise up and kill whitey and turn the US into the Democratic Republic of the Congo. It's racism, it doesn't have to make any sense.

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Want to know what Black Lives Matter thinks about the nuclear family? Consider its statement on so-called Black Villages:

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We are committed to disrupting the Western-prescribed nuclear family structure requirement by supporting each other as extended families and “villages” that collectively care for one another, and especially “our” children to the degree that mothers, parents and children are comfortable.

Do you want a nuanced and careful response to the problem of high crime rates in black communities and the problem of mass incarceration? Don’t go to Black Lives Matter — It believes that “2.8 million Black people are locked in cages in this country is state violence.”

Then there’s this incredible statement about gender and sexuality:

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Black queer and trans folks bear a unique burden from a hetero-patriarchal society that disposes of us like garbage and simultaneously fetishizes us and profits off of us, and that is state violence.

Or there’s this statement about black people with disabilities:

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Black folks living with disabilities and different abilities bear the burden of state sponsored Darwinian experiments that attempt to squeeze us into boxes of normality defined by white supremacy, and that is state violence.

What? American governments are conducting heinous experiments on African Americans with disabilities? This is either an academic nonsense-critique of the standard ways that American society tries to accommodate people with disabilities or next-level conspiracy theorizing.

divabot posted:

If you can find a good cite or two, this might help explain the MGTOW trope that women are horrified, horrified at the idea these men will retreat into their world of sexbots and not want women any more.

The Vosgian Beast posted:

Remember when Big Yud wrote a post about how he was genuinely worried that in the future, due to irreconcilable differences between the sexes, both genders would retreat to their own planets of catgirl/catboy sexbots?

Syd Midnight posted:

Speaking of condescendingly sexist 60s



Yep.

neonnoodle posted:

At least we can remember Rothbard for this work of genius: Mozart Was a Red.

(Help me I unironically linked to the Mises Institute…)

The Vosgian Beast posted:

Let us also never forget his hilariously terrible review of Star Wars

Parallel Paraplegic posted:

Oh no she's a communist

Fututor Magnus posted:

I don't know what Hillary's point actually was but this doesn't sound right

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After many years of working with and listening to American adolescents, I don’t believe they are ready for sex or its potential consequences--parenthood, abortion, sexually transmitted diseases--and I think we need to do everything in our power to discourage sexual activity and encourage abstinence. Young people can learn to value the intimacy of friendships with the opposite sex as well as their own, can enjoy being in groups as well as couples. Those kinds of relationships need adult support, including the time it takes to organize gatherings for kids, instead of turning them loose in malls, video arcades, or the streets. Homes, schools, churches, and communities should provide havens for kids who want an alternative. These same entities have to pitch in when it comes to educating kids about sex.

Fututor Magnus posted:

I don't know what Hillary's point actually was but this doesn't sound right

pookel posted:

"Walk to the End of the World" by Suzy McKee Charnas is about a post-apocalyptic world in which women are literally treated as a subhuman class (think plantation slavery, with bonus cannibalism) in a society where all citizens are male. It's grim as gently caress, and also second-wave feminist as gently caress, but it's really interesting reading if you can stomach the gruesomeness.

Fututor Magnus posted:

https://twitter.com/FormerlyFormer/status/761353075122507777
https://twitter.com/FormerlyFormer/status/761359910349053952
https://twitter.com/FormerlyFormer/status/761360176934825984

I don't know what Hillary's point actually was but this doesn't sound right

Goon Danton posted:

Or his hilariously terrible review of the gangster movie genre! (warning: Lew Rockwell link)

Read to the end, it's worth it.

The Vosgian Beast posted:

You know, even in the alternate universe where they were sane people and not hateful nutbars, I'm pretty sure Murray Rothbard and Kevin MacDonald are not philosophers, given that they are/were an economist and a psychologist, respectively.

Also Rothbard was the son of Jewish immigrants who grew up in the Bronx, and Kevin MacDonald is the guy who attempted to make anti-semitism "scientific" so it's weird to see them on the same list.

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Organized crime is essentially anarcho-capitalist, a productive industry struggling to govern itself; apart from attempts to monopolize and injure competitors, it is productive and non-aggressive. Unorganized, or street, crime, in contrast, is random, punkish, viciously aggressive against the innocent, and has no redeeming social feature. Wouldn’t you know, then, that our leftist culture hates and reviles the Mafia and organized crime, while it lovingly excuses, and apologizes for, chaotic and random street punks violence which amounts to “anarchy” in the bad, or common meaning.

Parallel Paraplegic posted:

Right off the bat he opens with a bunch of old man whining about "why don't they make proper cowboy movies anymore the only good movies ever made were cowboy movies," he's like a strawman grandpa

Crazy Uncle Murray posted:

Unfortunately, the Western movie is no more, felled perhaps by endless and unimaginative repetition, but possibly, too, by the dogged leftist insistence in the later Westerns for the Indians to be the Good Guys and the whites the Bad. Look, fellas, it doesn’t matter what the literal historical truth may or may not have been; the leftist reversal – the insistence on destroying familiar heroes – simply don’t work, it didn’t scan, and it helped destroy the Western genre.

Race! That Murray Book posted:

Until literally mid-October 1994, it was shameful and taboo for anyone to talk publicly or write about, home truths which everyone, and I mean everyone, knew in their hearts and in private: that is, almost self-evident truths about race, intelligence, and heritability. What used to be widespread shared public knowledge about race and ethnicity among writers, publicists, and scholars, was suddenly driven out of the public square by Communist anthropologist Franz Boas and his associates in the 1930s, and it has been taboo ever since. Essentially, I mean the almost self-evident fact that individuals, ethnic groups, and races differ among themselves in intelligence and in many other traits, and that intelligence, as well as less controversial traits of temperament, are in large part hereditary.

Their Malcolm... and Mine posted:

In the last analysis, then, it is not Malcolm’s ideas, militant or not, nationalist or not, that continue to fascinate, and to attract followers. Not at all. On the contrary, it was Malcolm as a person who was the great attraction when alive and still is, thirty years after his death. For Malcolm was indeed unique among black leadership, past and present. He did no shuckin’ and jivin’, he was not a clown like “the Rev.” Al Sharpton, he was not moronic like Ben Hooks or Thurgood Marshall, he did not simply threaten Whitey in a loutish manner like the Black Panthers, he was not a fraudulent intellectual with a rococo Black Baptist minister style, like “Dr.” King. He stood out like a noble eagle among his confreres. He carried himself with great pride and dignity; his speaking style was incisive and sparkled with intelligence and sardonic wit. In short, his attraction for blacks was and is that he acted white. It is a ridiculous liberal cliche that blacks are just like whites but with a different skin color; but in Malcolm’s case, regardless of his formal ideology, it really seemed to be true.

Parallel Paraplegic posted:

Oh man that rabbit hole goes deep

Curvature of Earth posted:

Like all An-caps, Rothbard had no interest in actual human lives, merely "principles", and as such possessed no conscience worth appealing to.

The Vosgian Beast posted:

The only good thing by a rationalist I've ever read was The Northern Caves by Nostalgebraist, who's on the edges of that community anyway, and afaik the only remotely interesting thing to come out of the Dark Enlightenment's fiction is Nick Land's short stories.

Syd Midnight posted:

Speaking of condescendingly sexist 60s

The Vosgian Beast posted:

No I remember a version that wasn't in story format

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Parallel Paraplegic posted:

Oh man that rabbit hole goes deep


"They're literal men with guns who steal poo poo and kill people and are therefore productive and non-aggressive, unlike the MEN WITH GUNS who try to stop them through laws and taxes!" followed immedaitely by "Why does society like those stupid subhuman negroes street thugs more than these noble white businessmen, when clearly all the blacks ever do is fight completely randomly without any sort of sense or reason because it's in their nature!!"

Syd Midnight posted:

Woolie Wool posted:

It was standard procedure for chemists to taste newly synthesized compounds for a long time. Back then nobody gave a poo poo about safety.

The Lone Badger posted:

Why the gently caress are you sticking your finger in your mouth in a lab do you want to die

Goon Danton posted:

Or his hilariously terrible review of the gangster movie genre! (warning: Lew Rockwell link)

Read to the end, it's worth it.

Fututor Magnus posted:

https://twitter.com/ThatExLiberal/status/722086639514861569

https://twitter.com/gihenry1993/status/761338237730197504

Tesseraction posted:

Anita Sarkeesian isn't a TERF tho?

https://twitter.com/femfreq/status/523221137770020864

Dapper_Swindler posted:

nah. she might be a somewhat sex negative and maybe swerfy, but she is no TERF. honestly her stuff/videos has gotten alot better. most of the bad stupid stuff came from her ex producer/writer. he was giant wanker and quite/hopefully got sacked and now spends his days begging on patrion and jerking off about how steven universe is the greatest show and how games having choices is "problamtic". her stuff is more interesting now even if i dont always agree with everything.