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Aphrodite posted:The Hobey Baker. actually we can probably guess that Vesey will either be really good (Eichel, Gaudreau, Kariya, Drury) or complete poo poo (literally everyone else who has won the award)
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Aug 5, 2016 20:51
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Winning the Hobey Baker in your senior year at age 23 is not much of an accomplishment. Hell, he wasn't even the best player in the NCAA this year. I have no idea why teams are promising him top six ice time already. He has a lot more in common with Mat Gilroy than Johnny Gaudreau until he proves otherwise.
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Aug 5, 2016 20:59
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Because once he's signed they don't actually have to keep their promise.
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Aug 5, 2016 21:02
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Aphrodite posted:The Hobey Baker. See Gilroy, Matt E: drat you thinktank
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Aug 5, 2016 21:05
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if I had to put money on it I'd bank on Vesey being a Kevin Hayes level player. There's absolutely nothing wrong with that obviously, Hayes is a good player, I just think Vesey's value has been crazy inflated.
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Aug 5, 2016 21:15
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I imagine the expansion is going to color a lot of team's perspectives
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Aug 5, 2016 21:22
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Who do you guys think are the most underrated players in the NHL right now?
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Aug 5, 2016 22:11
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El Gallinero Gros posted:Who do you guys think are the most underrated players in the NHL right now? Is the answer still Loui Eriksson?
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Aug 5, 2016 22:44
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Did this pic just confirm Blake Wheeler as the new captain, or did they just use an old 16 Ladd
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Aug 5, 2016 22:47
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Infidel Castro posted:Is the answer still Loui Eriksson? I hope so for the sake of the canucks in the post-benning/linden/willie D era, may that come to pass very soon indeed
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Aug 5, 2016 22:52
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College UFAs are basically like a good first round pick for free, straight to an ELC. Every team wants good, cost controlled young players without giving up any assets. All upside.
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Aug 5, 2016 23:00
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Zodijackylite posted:College UFAs are basically like a good first round pick for free, straight to an ELC. Every team wants good, cost controlled young players without giving up any assets. All upside. College UFA? I prefer to call them Free Wallets
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Aug 5, 2016 23:27
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The Dirty Burger posted:Did this pic just confirm Blake Wheeler as the new captain, or did they just use an old 16 Ladd they did the same thing to the Oilers so who knows https://twitter.com/NHL/status/761615789816483842
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Aug 5, 2016 23:44
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veseys value is high because the value of a player who can potentially produce points on an elc is as high as its ever been and will keep gettig higher pretty much. additionally many people hghly value nashvilles ability to gauge amateur talent, and they were willing to assure him a top six role, reportedly, so a scouting staff thats highly regarded by some smart guys liked him a lot, a lot obv doesnt necessarily translate much but another factor im sure taken into consideration is that vesey is an 'athlete', hes a cardio freak of nature and hes 'thick' (like scouts seem to covet now). for me the hayes bros comparison isnt so good cause vesey is a much more physically conditioned guy than either of them have or wil ever be. theres utility there cause he can be a dog for the puck
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Aug 6, 2016 01:57
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Bruins will sign him, then dump him after two seasons for "reasons" in exchange for 2-3 players that will be gone the following season.
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Aug 6, 2016 03:10
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Duke Chin posted:Bruins will sign him, then dump him after two seasons for "reasons" in exchange for 2-3 players that will be gone the following season. Youre taking all the fun out of this. Alternative; Bruins nab him for one year, has an amazing first season, they hand him Toews money then he promptly turns into garbage. Like, were talking full Daigle.
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Aug 6, 2016 03:18
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That's called Voracek money.
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Aug 6, 2016 03:19
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Furnaceface posted:Youre taking all the fun out of this. Or he has a handful of good seasons and gets concussed by say... Alex Killorn or Antoine Roussel.
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Aug 6, 2016 03:22
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Jamwad Hilder posted:if I had to put money on it I'd bank on Vesey being a Kevin Hayes level player. There's absolutely nothing wrong with that obviously, Hayes is a good player, I just think Vesey's value has been crazy inflated. Hayes was a second round pick who had 45 points in the NHL at the same age as Vesey is now. If Vesey ends up being anywhere near as good as Hayes it'll be pretty surprising. e: eh I'm tired and discounted Vesey a bit. Still think Hayes is a best case scenario for Vesey.
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Aug 6, 2016 03:45
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Cool cause they're going to be playing together on the Rangers 
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Aug 6, 2016 03:59
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LmaoTheKid posted:Cool cause they're going to be playing together on the Rangers Until they both earn pay raises in 2 years but cant since Dan Girardi is still on the books and forces them to ship one out for nothing.
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Aug 6, 2016 04:07
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ThinkTank posted:Winning the Hobey Baker in your senior year at age 23 is not much of an accomplishment. lol
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Aug 6, 2016 04:07
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bewbies posted:lol There really aren't many guys who've won the Hobey Baker in their senior year, then gone on to make any sort of impact in the NHL. Brendan Morrison and Chris Drury are about the only ones who have.
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Aug 6, 2016 04:17
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St. Dogbert posted:There really aren't many guys who've won the Hobey Baker in their senior year, then gone on to make any sort of impact in the NHL. Brendan Morrison and Chris Drury are about the only ones who have. Then he should have said its not idicitave of NHL success. It's an incredible accomplishment.
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Aug 6, 2016 04:18
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From the "How dumb is your fanbase?" files: So, I follow the Flames Facebook. They published a short list article today talking about the top 5 prospects, and it included everybody you'd expect: Tkachuk, Gillies, etc. Now, they have a thing on their page that allows you to comment with your facebook account. And one guy suggested, I poo poo you not, that Calgary send Dennis Wideman to Edmonton for Nuge or Eberle. Granted, I'd be doing cartwheels if they did that, but how much of a homer do you have to be to think Edmonton would do that? I know the Larsson for Hall trade just happened, but a)Larsson is 23 and Wideman is 33, b) Larsson makes 1.1 million less and c) is a better defender. Where do people get these ideas? Penguins fans, are people still demanding Crosby be traded?
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Aug 6, 2016 04:21
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Furnaceface posted:Until they both earn pay raises in 2 years but cant since Dan Girardi is still on the books and forces them to ship one out for nothing. Won't we have a strike by then anyway? Compliance time.
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Aug 6, 2016 04:30
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El Gallinero Gros posted:one guy suggested, I poo poo you not, that Calgary send Dennis Wideman to Edmonton for Nuge or Eberle. There was a narrative when the Flames made their miracle run to the post-season two years ago that they had the best defense group in the league, and somehow the credit spilled over not just to Brodie and Giordano but also all of the useless secondary pieces. Part of that narrative is that Dennis Wideman is a 50 point defenceman. Everyone over-rates their own players.. actually usually Oilers fans are pretty reasonable. They've learned to expect nothing.
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Aug 6, 2016 04:34
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LmaoTheKid posted:Won't we have a strike by then anyway? Compliance time. OK but that still leaves Marc Staal. Jesus I never actually looked at the Rags roster and contracts but uh.... they really do need to win before Hank retires. 
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Aug 6, 2016 04:34
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St. Dogbert posted:There really aren't many guys who've won the Hobey Baker in their senior year, then gone on to make any sort of impact in the NHL. Brendan Morrison and Chris Drury are about the only ones who have. it is still an incredible accomplishment
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Aug 6, 2016 04:35
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Furnaceface posted:OK but that still leaves Marc Staal. They do, yeah. Sather took a big poo poo on his way out with the wonder twins contracts. But hey, gently caress it, we're on Gortons train now let's see where he takes it.
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Aug 6, 2016 04:39
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bewbies posted:it is still an incredible accomplishment The most incredible thing about it is that Connor didn't win
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Aug 6, 2016 05:26
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El Gallinero Gros posted:From the "How dumb is your fanbase?" files: Who care bitch (USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST) (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Aug 6, 2016 06:18
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Lesson(s) to be learned here: Don't read the comments on your team's Facebook. Don't read the comments section of your newspaper. Don't read social media. Don't read. Don't. D.
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Aug 6, 2016 10:10
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A fun hobey baker "joke": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WibFVd1i9OE
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Aug 6, 2016 13:19
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Duke Chin posted:Bruins will sign him, then dump him after two seasons for "reasons" in exchange for 2-3 players that will be gone the following season. actually the most exciting about Vesey, to me, is that if Boston signs him and he turns out to be good, they won't get rid of him because of the same sort of idiot logic they used to get rid of Seguin. WELL HE'S A BOSTON BOY. HOME TOWN KID. HARD WORKER. BRUIN FOR LIFE.
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Aug 6, 2016 13:56
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Starsfan posted:There was a narrative when the Flames made their miracle run to the post-season two years ago that they had the best defense group in the league, and somehow the credit spilled over not just to Brodie and Giordano but also all of the useless secondary pieces. Part of that narrative is that Dennis Wideman is a 50 point defenceman. No, Montreal and their fanbase is pretty good at undervaluing their players Heh Heh 
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Aug 6, 2016 14:14
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Glambags posted:A fun hobey baker "joke": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WibFVd1i9OE I know this without even clicking and you can tell he realizes he should turn left just seconds late
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Aug 6, 2016 14:56
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on spec posted:Who care bitch You know you're right, what we really need is another one of your posts that looks it was typed by somebody having a stroke
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Aug 6, 2016 16:21
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Captain Internet posted:I know this without even clicking and you can tell he realizes he should turn left just seconds late Don't start
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Aug 6, 2016 16:35
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Paulocaust posted:Then he should have said its not idicitave of NHL success. It's an incredible accomplishment. I think most people inferred from the context that I meant in terms of it translating to becoming a high level NHLer, but sure go ahead and be a pedant.
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Aug 6, 2016 16:36
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