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fishmech posted:Is this supposed to be a complaint that a guy who just committed a bunch of crimes and then advertised he'd done so doesn't have a valid passport anymore? I mean that's the hell of it all, a smarter leaker would have tried to keep his name hidden as long as possible, at least until they'd found a place they'd actually like to stay in, you know? I'm confused what you're arguing for in general. What's your point? That his escape plan was poor? Okay, granted. Now what?
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Nelson Mandingo posted:I'd do propaganda for Putin to survive too.
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KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD posted:This makes you as much of a coward as Snowden, fyi. Especially considering the global ramifications here. lmao look at this poo poo, are you 14?
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ColdPie posted:I'm confused what you're arguing for in general. What's your point? That his escape plan was poor? Okay, granted. Now what? I'm arguing that if he was smart, he would have tried to keep that it was him specifically who leaked poo poo hidden as long as possible, and get somewhere that doesn't suck to live. But he decided to be a gloryhound idiot and that's why he ended up stuck in Russia, like a clown.
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So Tuesday's the night that Paul Ryan stomps Nehlen in the WI primaries? Leading by 66 points last I saw. For anyone who enjoys cringe-humor, here's the ad by the guy trying to primary Ryan from the right, getting all the "Cantorize that RINO!" social media love: http://www.vox.com/2016/8/5/12386532/paul-nehlen-paul-ryan-challenger-trump-explained - lengthy stretches of just riding around on a Harley - vest to show off his tattoos, including Molon Labe - incredibly wooden delivery and high school level AV quality with highway shots taken with a drone a staffer's kid got for Christmas - drops the biker outfit and changes into a suit and no tie, with a valiant attempt to look business-y by wearing safety glasses (which he removes) in a machining shop, just that the machine noise makes his whole speech hard to hear - *literally* challenges the Speaker of the House to an arm wrestling match. Explicitly. I enjoy a good cringe, and The Office is done so this is what we got.
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By the way, just to remind everyone, the world found about this in 06. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Room_641A
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fishmech posted:I'm arguing that if he was smart, he would have tried to keep that it was him specifically who leaked poo poo hidden as long as possible, and get somewhere that doesn't suck to live. But he decided to be a gloryhound idiot and that's why he ended up stuck in Russia, like a clown. Snowden's living arrangements don't seem like a particularly interesting thing to discuss.
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DemeaninDemon posted:At least they're not super dilute. You'd be in trouble for sure if they were. Welp I guess that means Trump's going win in a landslide. Which countries are good for US exPats?
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KillingPablo posted:Holy hell, is that true? How was someone working for the NSA and engineered the theft of so much data so stupid as to not realize Hong Kong wasn't some sanctuary from the PRC? Is "he's a libertarian and therefore knows nothing about anything" not a good enough reason for you?
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Why did Nehlen include a shot of a sign and then blur it? What even is going on anymore? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcVsuCgYf0U&t=21s
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I have to say, it'll be fun to watch the liberal mainstream finish their complete 180 on surveillance, security, extrajudicial shenanigans and general warhawking once Hillary takes the wheel and has none of the personal reservations on that stuff that Obama did
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icantfindaname posted:I have to say, it'll be fun to watch the liberal mainstream finish their complete 180 on surveillance, security, extrajudicial shenanigans and general warhawking once Hillary takes the wheel and has none of the personal reservations on that stuff that Obama did Obama has reservations about domestic spying? News to me.
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icantfindaname posted:I have to say, it'll be fun to watch the liberal mainstream finish their complete 180 on surveillance, security, extrajudicial shenanigans and general warhawking once Hillary takes the wheel and has none of the personal reservations on that stuff that Obama did It will be unpleasantly easy to justify by suggesting Trump would have been worse and I'm pre-disgusted with myself in the future.
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icantfindaname posted:I have to say, it'll be fun to watch the liberal mainstream finish their complete 180 on surveillance, security, extrajudicial shenanigans and general warhawking once Hillary takes the wheel and has none of the personal reservations on that stuff that Obama did Yep, that stuff you're imagining does sound fun.
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icantfindaname posted:I have to say, it'll be fun to watch the liberal mainstream finish their complete 180 on surveillance, security, extrajudicial shenanigans and general warhawking once Hillary takes the wheel and has none of the personal reservations on that stuff that Obama did unless the glowing orange god of fire can cleanse the world of our stain death is certain
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icantfindaname posted:I have to say, it'll be fun to watch the liberal mainstream finish their complete 180 on surveillance, security, extrajudicial shenanigans and general warhawking once Hillary takes the wheel and has none of the personal reservations on that stuff that Obama did yea it's fun to play pretend
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mrbradlymrmartin posted:its like music, clinton stole bombing iraq from daddy bush, w stole a couple bars about loving up america and the world from clinton and made it the chorus of his biggest hit, now another clintons coming to remix that poo poo again Now we just need a perfect mix of George W Bush and Hillary Clinton for an atomic Iraq war. George Clinton 2020!
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QuarkJets posted:Is "he's a libertarian and therefore knows nothing about anything" not a good enough reason for you? White dude technolibertarians are always axiomatically dumb and bad, the positive or negative outcomes and the motives of their actions are meaningless. This applies to Snowden too.
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VikingofRock posted:Now we just need a perfect mix of George W Bush and Hillary Clinton for an atomic Iraq war. George Clinton 2020! still my favorite article after all these years
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ColdPie posted:Snowden's living arrangements don't seem like a particularly interesting thing to discuss. It actually is, but your whining that people dared to insult Saint Ed sure isn't interesting.
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KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD posted:This makes you as much of a coward as Snowden, fyi. Especially considering the global ramifications here. Ha ha. No not wanting to die for a cause you believe in is completely rational behavior of a normal person. Martyrdom culture is stupid.
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Nelson Mandingo posted:Martyrdom culture is stupid. Yeah, I never got the whole "well people will believe you more if you are dead!" Arguement, because I'd kind of want to stay amongst the land of the living.
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I mean I'd rather have attention drawn to scary rear end domestic surveillance to gain opposition to it even if it's been known about but Snowden's behavior since seems to be self grandicising look how many followers I have manner. The fact he drops his sick Twitter burns from a country where opposition leaders mysteriously get murdered in public areas where cameras just so happen to be under maintainance and it gets pinned on the Chechens for some reason certainly doesn't help
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So it looks like the LA Times Poll is showing Clinton only +1. Except their last poll was Trump's highwater mark and had him at +7. So assuming the poll reached a similar group, the story there is the 8 point swing, not CLINTON'S LEAD COLLAPSING, eh?
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Mr Interweb posted:I have a bad feeling that "short circuit" line is going to get a lot of play in the media in the coming days. Not if trump continues to distract everyone by engaging in Cheeto fascist antics, insh'allah.
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Bad Moon posted:I mean I'd rather have attention drawn to scary rear end domestic surveillance to gain opposition to it even if it's been known about but Snowden's behavior since seems to be self grandicising look how many followers I have manner. The fact he drops his sick Twitter burns from a country where opposition leaders mysteriously get murdered in public areas where cameras just so happen to be under maintainance and it gets pinned on the Chechens for some reason certainly doesn't help Maybe if there was an actual accountability that didn't mean you have to flee the country when you tell people about the bad poo poo your country is doing. I mean if I found out that where I lived was operating a black site for holding stolen goods and I had proof but I was told you aren't allowed to say anything because you are a government employee, I'd like to hope that I could say it and not have to worry about getting thrown in jail because I had revealed it.
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fishmech posted:It actually is, but your whining that people dared to insult Saint Ed sure isn't interesting. My what?
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Nessus posted:So it looks like the LA Times Poll is showing Clinton only +1. Except their last poll was Trump's highwater mark and had him at +7. So assuming the poll reached a similar group, the story there is the 8 point swing, not CLINTON'S LEAD COLLAPSING, eh? Isn't this the poll that literally has no 18-34 year-olds in the sample? Edit: Must not be, as they show 18-34 year old results here: http://cesrusc.org/election/ SoSimpleABeginning fucked around with this message at 20:24 on Aug 6, 2016 |
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SoSimpleABeginning posted:Isn't this the poll that literally has no 18-35 year-olds in the sample? Why would you even do that as a poll?
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Tatum Girlparts posted:yea it's fun to play pretend You're right, they'll desperately and avidly reconcile themselves to it well before she is elected.
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Josef bugman posted:Why would you even do that as a poll? If I was recall is was a poll that relied upon people with landlines. I don't know a single 18-34 year old with a landline.
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SoSimpleABeginning posted:If I was recall is was a poll that relied upon people with landlines. I don't know a single 18-34 year old with a landline. I don't think most of the people I know who are older than that have a landline.
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Josef bugman posted:I don't think most of the people I know who are older than that have a landline. Ah, it was the CNN/ORC poll from a couple of weeks ago. Check out page 19 and beyone of the crosstabs here: http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2016/images/07/25/trump.clinton.poll.pdf N/A for 18-34 year olds. Strangely enough, the methodology says that they called both landlines and cellphones. Not sure how they managed to completely evade that demographic then... Edit: Alright, they didn't necessarily not sample ANY 18-34 year olds, but did not sample enough of them to bring the expected error down to +/- 8.5%, and thus left them out of the crosstabs. SoSimpleABeginning fucked around with this message at 20:33 on Aug 6, 2016 |
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SedanChair posted:You're right, they'll desperately and avidly reconcile themselves to it well before she is elected. What do you mean, they already have
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icantfindaname posted:I have to say, it'll be fun to watch the liberal mainstream finish their complete 180 on surveillance, security, extrajudicial shenanigans and general warhawking once Hillary takes the wheel and has none of the personal reservations on that stuff that Obama did Gotta admit it's tempting to be ok with it. If anyone domestic actually deserves surveillance, spying and general fuckery it's conservatives. Just a hair of the poo poo that was done to labor activists or civil rights leaders. Just a taste of it. Don't need to go full McCarthy or Hoover, but just a drat taste. Their ideology needs to loving die and it'd hard to be upset about the US giving them the ol' commie / labor treatment giving the loving poo poo they pulled and are pulling. I mean hell, how many people are going to die because the GOP denies climate change? But, better angels and all that. Gotta be better than them.
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rscott posted:What do you mean, they already have The most annoying thing to me about Trump's campaign is how it will set expectations as low as they can be for the Hillary administration. Whatever she does, there will always be sycophants who whine "I suppose you would have preferred Donald Trump."
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