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Panic! at Nabisco posted:Didn't someone do a crafting profit analysis at some point and find Cul was near the bottom? That was taking into account specialist recipes. But yeah, it takes Cul awhile to get going because of the sheer amount of ingredients you need.
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It really depends on how you measure it. Consumables are usually very slim profit margins per unit, but they sell fast and often because everybody wants them.
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CUL just barely breaks even from what my professional crafter friend tells me
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The profit margins on endgame food on Excalibur are pretty bad.
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My wife wants to try the free trial, on the same PC I use to play my full version, but the Free Trial client is asking me to uninstall the full version of the game. Is there a way she can create a trial account without doing this? Conversely, if this does go through, will I still be able to log in to my normal, Heavensward account? If anyone's had experience running a second free trial account, I'd appreciate the help. E: Another Question - what about just setting up a subscription? The game's already installed on the machine. Do we really need two copies of ARR in order to have two separate accounts or can she just start paying for it, nevermind the free trial? HackensackBackpack fucked around with this message at 03:50 on Aug 7, 2016 |
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Virulence posted:The profit margins on endgame food on Excalibur are pretty bad. Sell poo poo to people scrabbling their way up, endgame food might be tanked but there's still quite profitable recipes out there.
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Leofish posted:My wife wants to try the free trial, on the same PC I use to play my full version, but the Free Trial client is asking me to uninstall the full version of the game. Is there a way she can create a trial account without doing this? Conversely, if this does go through, will I still be able to log in to my normal, Heavensward account?
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homeless snail posted:Did you try just logging her trial account into the regular client? IDK if that works or not. You can totally play with multiple accounts on the same install though We tried that, but it says she isn't registered, and it appears you need to go through the trial account install to do that, and it's suggesting I uninstall FFXIV. Now, maybe that's because I don't recall doing anything different after my free trial awhile back. I just eventually paid for the full version and went on with it. If I'm understanding correctly, as well, if she wants her own full account, she'll need to pay the 20 bucks for ARR again for the key, even if we don't install the second version, correct? I don't get why the Free Trial won't just run? Or is "SquareEnix" the answer to that question? 
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Oh yeah, you would need to buy another key, but she would get a free month off of it at least.
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homeless snail posted:Oh yeah, you would need to buy another key, but she would get a free month off of it at least. Yeah, that's what I thought, okay. Thanks for your help.
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vOv posted:Ninja's base class is rogue, which requires you to get some other class to 10 first. Paladin's base class is gladiator. They start in different cities, but you unlock cross-city travel at level 15 (IIRC). So what you could do is start as a gladiator, level up to 15, then go to Limsa Lominsa and unlock Ninja, then mess around doing your hunting log and FATEs until you're caught up and you can keep doing story stuff. Adding to this, the theoretical "best start" would be to pick Pugilist, get it to 15 so you can unlock Gladiator, Rogue, Lancer and Conjurer, then stick to Rogue through the main story quests (which give you a bunch of free experience doing solo stuff, thus avoiding DPS' notoriously long queues). Once you hit 30 Rogue, you'll be able to nab Ninja; from then on, you can focus on taking Ninja through the story while leveling up the others through side content. If you want to keep Ninja and Gladiator/Paladin approximately even in order to really avoid those long queues... well, I hope you enjoy repeating side content for levels. You'll be using Leves between levels 5-30, and probably FATE grinding 30 and up, to make up the difference between the two. MSQ is really tightly designed to take a single job from 1-50 (ignoring the dead zone of 46-49) so it'll take a bit of effort to squeeze enough levels for 2 classes out of that. But the end result is that you'll have 2 roles covered, which is always a plus. Another option that occurs to me, and I would want someone on here to confirm since I'm not completely sure how true this is, but the recent Palace of the Dead dungeon gives actual experience every 10 floors; I've been told that repeatedly running those first 10 floors is a fairly expedient (if monotonous) means of gaining a few extra levels.
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Virulence posted:The profit margins on endgame food on Excalibur are pretty bad. It's to the point where some people are undercutting themselves whenever they put up food. It's nutty.
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CeallaSo posted:Another option that occurs to me, and I would want someone on here to confirm since I'm not completely sure how true this is, but the recent Palace of the Dead dungeon gives actual experience every 10 floors; I've been told that repeatedly running those first 10 floors is a fairly expedient (if monotonous) means of gaining a few extra levels. Floors 1-10 took me from rogue 1-rogue 4 or so; after floor 10 it starts to take too long to be worth the time. It is great to get fast dps queues, though.
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Just a reminder that you should always talk to the ancillary NPCs during events.
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Alder posted:There's the Hall of Novice and some straw dummies if you want to test your rotations. Also Palace of The Dead lets you re-learn your skills all over again from 1-50 as long which is available at lvl 17 btw. I used the trial thingy outside Idyllshire and it actually came back to me faster than expected. Just using the very simple version of the rotation right now, but I'm at least getting the timing down again! Gonna check out Palace of the Dead soon, I've got a massive todo list to try to hit in the next five days of free play
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Xenoveritas posted:Just a reminder that you should always talk to the ancillary NPCs during events. Oh my loving God the localization team
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A. Beaverhausen posted:Oh my loving God the localization team none can match my lust for koji fox
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I'm kind of disappointed the bomb king doesn't say "after ten thousand years, I'm free!" when he spawns, now.
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Man, it's pretty hard to hold hate in Arboretum at i180, lemme tell yo also it's kinda demoralising when the NIN has more HP than you as the tank
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been trying out Ninja and its growing on me, I don't even mind the long DPS queue waits because I just look cool ALL the time in dungeons no matter what I do. Until you mess the mudra up for Fuma Shuriken and then you can run to a corner and hide and cry in shame 
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Lastgirl posted:been trying out Ninja and its growing on me, I don't even mind the long DPS queue waits because I just look cool ALL the time in dungeons no matter what I do. Yeah for how horrible dps times can be, I'm still happy I chose a black mage to main. Now I am Vivi.
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So this is probably a dumb question, but why am I getting like 46% EXP now? I just did a quest where I'm fighting level 27 enemies as a 26 rogue, and I got less than half exp.
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Xenoveritas posted:Just a reminder that you should always talk to the ancillary NPCs during events. holy poo poo 
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Tae posted:So this is probably a dumb question, but why am I getting like 46% EXP now? I just did a quest where I'm fighting level 27 enemies as a 26 rogue, and I got less than half exp. You're still getting full exp. Any percentages listed beside the experience is how much bonus you're getting. Is Rogue your highest class? You only get the 100% armory bonus for classes lower than your highest, so that 46% is probably just from other exp bonus sources, like some gear or exp buffs
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Oh, okay. Man, the beginning of the game must've sucked if those bonuses weren't there, huh. I just assumed 100/130 was the norm until I hit 30.
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Tae posted:Oh, okay. Man, the beginning of the game must've sucked if those bonuses weren't there, huh. I just assumed 100/130 was the norm until I hit 30.
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Mad Science posted:You're still getting full exp. Any percentages listed beside the experience is how much bonus you're getting. Is Rogue your highest class? You only get the 100% armory bonus for classes lower than your highest, so that 46% is probably just from other exp bonus sources, like some gear or exp buffs They mustve nerfed the armory bonus for the duration of the yo kai event because i have only been getting a 50% bonus on my Monk while grinding fates in OLN last night. E: this was sub 50 btw.
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So is there any way to get into idyllshire without having to grind one of these godawful crafting classes to 50? Because that's kind of miserable. EDIT: also is there any better way to level up these stupid classes than doing leves? Because getting a leve, crafting an item then walking back and forth for five minutes to get like 1/10th of my bar in exp is probably the least fun I've had playing this game yet. Nuebot fucked around with this message at 23:54 on Aug 7, 2016 |
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Nuebot posted:So is there any way to get into idyllshire without having to grind one of these godawful crafting classes to 50? Because that's kind of miserable. Uh, yeah. You just continue the story.
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Nuebot posted:So is there any way to get into idyllshire without having to grind one of these godawful crafting classes to 50? Because that's kind of miserable. Why...would you need to get a crafting job to go to Idyllshire. Idyllshire is part of the Heavensward MSQ and the post game hub as Mor Dhona was for ARR.
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Captain Oblivious posted:Why...would you need to get a crafting job to go to Idyllshire. Idyllshire is part of the Heavensward MSQ and the post game hub as Mor Dhona was for ARR.  There's like three wikis for this game and not a single one said you went there for the main story, they all said you went there through that one quest. Well, back to watching cutscenes then. I think I'm about to fight the elf pope. Or maybe just murder him, he doesn't look like he can fight.
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Nuebot posted:
It's a final fantasy game, if you don't expect every member of the church to be a monster in disguise at this point you're just not paying attention.
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LITERALLY MY FETISH posted:It's a final fantasy game, if you don't expect every member of the church to be a monster in disguise at this point you're just not paying attention. Sometimes they're just ghosts.
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Nuebot posted:
What "one quest"? I'm genuinely curious how such a bizarre misunderstanding could happen.
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Captain Oblivious posted:What "one quest"? I'm genuinely curious how such a bizarre misunderstanding could happen. "Inscrutable Tastes" which leads to "Go West Craftsman". I couldn't find any other way to get to the city on any of the wikis.
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That's just for collectables. Rule of thumb: if the MSQ doesn't unlock something, it unlocks the side quest that unlocks the thing you're looking for. There are no exceptions.
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