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Does Bojack Horseman get better than the first episode? I watched it and didn't laugh once, but I've heard people rave about the show, so I'm wondering if that's just pilot episode mushiness or if I'm an rear end in a top hat with impossibly high standards.
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Aug 7, 2016 05:24
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I've only seen the first season, but I'd say 3-4 episodes in it gets much better.
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Aug 7, 2016 05:26
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The first 3 or 4 episodes are a dumb somewhat funny cartoon. After that they get a lot better.
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Aug 7, 2016 05:35
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TychoCelchuuu posted:Does Bojack Horseman get better than the first episode? I watched it and didn't laugh once, but I've heard people rave about the show, so I'm wondering if that's just pilot episode mushiness or if I'm an rear end in a top hat with impossibly high standards. Yeah it's good. It's not a traditional animated sitcom. The lions' share of the (black-as-gently caress) humor comes from how miserable, self-defeating, and desperate the characters are. There are a ton of sight gags and running jokes too, but these take a while to get established. I'd say give it another episode and see if it grabs you, it's definitely not for everyone.
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Aug 7, 2016 05:40
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Watch up through Margot Martindale's first appearance (ep 4 I think?). That's when it begins to turn. If you're still not into it then it's ok you can just not like stuff.
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Aug 7, 2016 07:01
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Each season of Bojack starts out dumb sitcom stuff and then builds up the humor and then gets dark. Like grab a miners helmet cause it gets dark as gently caress. Then the season ends on a jesus christ note and the next one repeats the cycle, which honestly is meta as hell considering the series. Also the animal jokes are always gonna be dumb, but hell in the second episode they have Neal McBeal the Navy Seal. It's just so dumb ya have to laugh. edit: holy poo poo while trying to find Neal McBeal I stumbled upon the genius that is Vincent Adultman again. God bless his adult business venture loving soul. Leper Residue fucked around with this message at 07:50 on Aug 7, 2016 |
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Aug 7, 2016 07:46
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TychoCelchuuu posted:Does Bojack Horseman get better than the first episode? I watched it and didn't laugh once, but I've heard people rave about the show, so I'm wondering if that's just pilot episode mushiness or if I'm an rear end in a top hat with impossibly high standards. Season one of Bojack was famous for making a poor first impression with a lot of people (including critics, because Netflix only sent the first six episodes for review). They're worth watching to establish the show and the characters, but yeah, you're definitely just kinda getting through them to get to the turn later on. It was enough of a shift that it made Indiewire change policy to only review Netflix shows after seeing the full season.
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Aug 7, 2016 08:49
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Erebus posted:Season one of Bojack was famous for making a poor first impression with a lot of people (including critics, because Netflix only sent the first six episodes for review).
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Aug 7, 2016 17:44
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I watched the first 15 minutes of Bojack and really didn't like it. Same with Bobs Burgers. I hate that show and don't understand how people like it.
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Aug 7, 2016 19:29
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I'm a fan of Bojack, and thanks to the the glory of Netflix and the explosion of quality TV it can live thanks to a small, devoted core of fans. As someone living in LA I think it got by for a bit with me in the first season just based on some of the extremely specific LA jokes. For me the first good episode is what people said above, when Todd develops his rock opera and Bojack hires "character actress Margot Martindale." (Episode 4) But why I really like it is that in some ways it's much more grounded and focused on character change than wacky shows like Kimmy Schmidt, which make me laugh out loud but feel very same-y for the whole run. Especially by season 2, Bojack, Diane and princess Carolyn are making legitimate changes to themselves which is unusual in an animated show. I'd say don't go in with a stopwatch, timing the distance between laughs. Is will arnett being a talking horse with Jesse pinkman living in his house inherently funny? Then give it a shot. (I must really like Bojack)
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Aug 7, 2016 20:00
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I really have a troubled relationship with the Bojack Horseman show, because it's witty and funny and understated by virtue of being completely over the top. Every season makes me feel like a terrible person because I see so much of Bojack and Diane and Princess Caroline and Todd in myself, and I can't look away.
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Aug 7, 2016 20:41
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caligulamprey posted:Haha! I just went to look for The AV Club's middling (I think it was a C+?) review of the first season based on those first 6 episodes and it seems like they've removed it entirely. The pitchfork method huh
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Aug 7, 2016 21:14
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drunken officeparty posted:I watched the first 15 minutes of Bojack and really didn't like it. Some people like slower, character-based comedy. Bob's Burgers has a lot of the King of the Hill writers, so I'm not surprised I love it.
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Aug 7, 2016 23:17
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King of the Hill is just about my favorite show ever and I can't seem to get into Bob's Burgers. Is there some episode I should watch? I've tried to watch a few of them and it just isn't working out. 
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Aug 8, 2016 14:27
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coyo7e posted:I really have a troubled relationship with the Bojack Horseman show, because it's witty and funny and understated by virtue of being completely over the top. Every season makes me feel like a terrible person because I see so much of Bojack and Diane and Princess Caroline and Todd in myself, and I can't look away. Yeah, same here. That's basically what the show is about really. neonnoodle posted:King of the Hill is just about my favorite show ever and I can't seem to get into Bob's Burgers. Is there some episode I should watch? I've tried to watch a few of them and it just isn't working out. You should watch all of them. I don't know, I really can't understand why people don't like Bob's Burgers.
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Aug 8, 2016 14:35
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I find most of the voices in Bob's Burgers to be so grating and awful that I can scarcely get through an episode. No idea if it's actually funny or not.
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Aug 8, 2016 15:56
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Bob's Burgers suffers from a lack of interesting characters, and it rarely knows what to do with the ones it has.
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Aug 8, 2016 16:19
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TychoCelchuuu posted:Does Bojack Horseman get better than the first episode? I watched it and didn't laugh once, but I've heard people rave about the show, so I'm wondering if that's just pilot episode mushiness or if I'm an rear end in a top hat with impossibly high standards. It's already been covered in posts above me, but really the first 3-4 episodes of the first season really exist to set up where the characters are in life and it doesn't really get good until after that when they start taking deeper dives into the pathology of the characters. Bojack's character especially is a lot better when they finish establishing that he's a lovely person and start taking deep dives into the how and why. If you want a timeframe for when it gets good, if you can make it past episode 6 or 7 and still aren't feeling it, it's probably safe to put it down.
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Aug 8, 2016 16:56
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DeathSandwich posted:It's already been covered in posts above me, but really the first 3-4 episodes of the first season really exist to set up where the characters are in life and it doesn't really get good until after that when they start taking deeper dives into the pathology of the characters. Bojack's character especially is a lot better when they finish establishing that he's a lovely person and start taking deep dives into the how and why. I was sold by the end of the 4th episode, but looking through a list, episodes 7 and 8 really start going down dark corners and the show starts growing into what it is. Bojack Season 1 is Good, and shows it has the potential to be Great. Bojack Season 2 hits that potential, and by the end, it became my favorite animated show, and one of the best things Netflix has ever done. The thing is, the whole first season is a little over 4 hours long, but less than half of that is developing. I know it's an investment of time, but I think it's totally worth it. I still haven't watched Season 3, though.
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Aug 8, 2016 17:34
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It's rarely hilarious but it becomes compelling just by exploring its premise. After a while the stupid animal jokes become sort of ingratiating too- I like it when a comedy can blend smart material and incredibly dumb material.
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Aug 8, 2016 17:45
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Maxwell Lord posted:It's rarely hilarious but it becomes compelling just by exploring its premise. I agree that Bojack isn't a-laugh-a-minute type comedy, but Season 2's episode "Chickens" felt like writers saying, "Okay, let's just be a straight comedy one time," and it's hilarious. I've had friends that gave up on the show watch it and love it.
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Aug 8, 2016 17:47
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neonnoodle posted:King of the Hill is just about my favorite show ever and I can't seem to get into Bob's Burgers. Is there some episode I should watch? I've tried to watch a few of them and it just isn't working out. watch the burgerboss episode. season 2 episode 4
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Aug 8, 2016 17:51
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Season 3 of Bojack doesn't feel like it has as cohesive a storyline as the previous seasons, but episodes like "Fish out of Water" just knock it out of the park. Like, it's not the most outrageous comedy or anything, but it's just solid, smart storytelling. The show is very dark, but the absurdist comic relief keeps things rolling. It is one of those shows you have to watch from the beginning to really appreciate though.
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Aug 8, 2016 18:02
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Over the weekend I saw the Amazon Prime show Red Oaks in my twitter feed. What is the consensus on this show? The description sounds right up my alley.
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Aug 8, 2016 20:11
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A MIRACLE posted:watch the burgerboss episode. season 2 episode 4 Agreed, one of the funniest TV episodes I've ever seen. Also, Bojack Horseman is amazing, and if you like its brand of pitch-black humor and genuinely interesting characters with soul-crushing emotional problems, the Adult Swim show Moral Orel is streaming on Hulu and is almost as good (especially the last 2 seasons).
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Aug 8, 2016 20:12
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nate fisher posted:Over the weekend I saw the Amazon Prime show Red Oaks in my twitter feed. What is the consensus on this show? The description sounds right up my alley. I watched most of it, and it's not bad. A bit like Caddyshack played more straight.
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Aug 8, 2016 20:42
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No that my 13 yr old is making short films, I've lowered my expectations with films, and/or raised my appreciation for what exists. That said, Convergence is a turd. Should've invested some more money in an audio engineer; if you can't hear what people are saying 40% of the time, the movie is unwatchable. And it seemed to happen only with scenes with certain characters in them. "Hey, this guy doesn't talk very loud, so, turn the volume way down." Shame. It gets a B for effort, as far as lo-budget movies go.
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Aug 8, 2016 21:54
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The Naked Prey is up on netflix. If you haven't seen it, you should watch it. It's got the most magically and inexplicably badass white dude ever, taking on the entire dark continent of Africa in hand to hand combat. Also it's a pretty good movie.
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Aug 8, 2016 22:23
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Anyone watch blackout? Any good?
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Aug 8, 2016 22:29
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coyo7e posted:The Naked Prey is up on netflix. If you haven't seen it, you should watch it. It's got the most magically and inexplicably badass white dude ever, taking on the entire dark continent of Africa in hand to hand combat. Also it's a pretty good movie. I was worried its worldview would be a little dated, but its a really great movie. Its beautifully shot and the acting is great for both the white dude and the pursuers.
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Aug 8, 2016 22:56
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Saw Marco Polo is still apparently being made for Netflix. Is it any good?
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Aug 8, 2016 23:26
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Doctor Butts posted:Saw Marco Polo is still apparently being made for Netflix. Is it any good? It's historically accurate on only the most basic details, but for my money it's got the best production design of any show currently running. Also Joan Chen.
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Aug 8, 2016 23:47
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ChineseConnection posted:I was worried its worldview would be a little dated, but its a really great movie. Its beautifully shot and the acting is great for both the white dude and the pursuers.
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Aug 9, 2016 00:37
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Doctor Butts posted:Saw Marco Polo is still apparently being made for Netflix. Is it any good? Surprisingly, yeah. It's far from great but it's super watchable for all the neat sets and (often questionable) history asides.
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Aug 9, 2016 01:07
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coyo7e posted:The Naked Prey is up on netflix. If you haven't seen it, you should watch it. It's got the most magically and inexplicably badass white dude ever, taking on the entire dark continent of Africa in hand to hand combat. Also it's a pretty good movie. gently caress yeah. Cornel Wilde kills it in that movie. coyo7e posted:kinda like Jeremiah Johnson that's because they're both based on the same historical incident.
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Aug 9, 2016 02:01
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Wait, Naked Prey was based on Liver-Eatin' Johnson? Okay mind blown
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Aug 9, 2016 05:02
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Franchescanado posted:I agree that Bojack isn't a-laugh-a-minute type comedy, but Season 2's episode "Chickens" felt like writers saying, "Okay, let's just be a straight comedy one time," and it's hilarious. I've had friends that gave up on the show watch it and love it. A straight comedy episode maybe but built on a very disturbing premise of how meat-consumption works in a world of anthropomorphic animals.
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Aug 9, 2016 06:46
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I just realized Prime has those 4 made for TV Robocop movies from the early 2000's. I have a feeling I'm going to regret this...
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Aug 10, 2016 03:27
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enigmahfc posted:I just realized Prime has those 4 made for TV Robocop movies from the early 2000's.
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Aug 10, 2016 04:39
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The Robocop suit is way too big for the actor playing him and doesn't fit him well, and they can't even using the music from the movies. And Bone Machine looks like a bad knock-off of a fan-made Mortal Kombat character. And they make one guy look older by giving him a really fake mustache and gray eyebrows. I barely made it through the first one, but feel compelled to watch the other three. What is wrong with me?
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