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not that i have a job or anything lets not get carried away, im just bored with the 2 day break of nothing to watch
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drunken officeparty posted:it seems silly to have the games run during business hours on weekdays and completely skip the weekends. it wouldnt all fit in 2 days whatever but this is the entertainment industry at least play something on saturday sunday They are just playing to their core demographic of sad unemployed nerds who live in their mother's basement. For real it's pretty stupid though.
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drunken officeparty posted:it seems silly to have the games run during business hours on weekdays and completely skip the weekends. it wouldnt all fit in 2 days whatever but this is the entertainment industry at least play something on saturday sunday I agree that it's stupid to not play anything this weekend but I don't think the exact time they play matters that much since they're broadcasting to a global audience (and actually, I'd bet that they would get more viewers from China/SEA or Europe than the US, anyway)
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also im fascinated by how the money works in this. like pyrion what js your day job because obvii you arent a full time dota dude. or like shane, he isnt even a part time dota dude. is he being paid to sit on the couch? how much and why. what does he do normally. is LD making dota millions? does he have to do other stuff? the world may never know
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Elyv posted:I agree that it's stupid to not play anything this weekend but I don't think the exact time they play matters that much since they're broadcasting to a global audience (and actually, I'd bet that they would get more viewers from China/SEA or Europe than the US, anyway) The games are going from like 7 pm to 7 am in Europe. These are not good times for us.
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drunken officeparty posted:also im fascinated by how the money works in this. like pyrion what js your day job because obvii you arent a full time dota dude. or like shane, he isnt even a part time dota dude. is he being paid to sit on the couch? how much and why. what does he do normally. is LD making dota millions? does he have to do other stuff? the world may never know I think 2GD said his fee for Shanghai was $10k? I don't know if Pflax is getting the big presenter bucks like that, but it's still probably not too shabby. Supplement that with announcer pack cash, youtube and Twitch money, and other events sprinkled throughout the year and the bigger DOTA 2 personalities are all probably making a decent living.
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For the people that were asking what to watch this is what I'm going to watch based entirely on how many 'holy poo poo' posts appeared in the thread Wildcard -CoL Escape G3 -Ehome Xctn G3 -Xctn CoL G2 Group Stages Day 1 -Wings EG G12 -LGD OG G1 -OG Alliance G2 -OG EG G1 -Secret MVP G2 -DC MVP G1 Group Stages Day 2 -Wings OG G12 -EG TNC G1 -DC Nb G1 -DC Secret G12 Group Stages Day 3 -Alliance EG G1 -DC Liquid G12
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Andrast posted:The games are going from like 7 pm to 7 am in Europe. These are not good times for us. Timezones obviously cannot please the whole world, but it is very WTF that the entire event, group stage + main event, is all during weekdays. You'd really think that at least the last two days of the main event would be saturday/sunday, but nope. I really wanted to be able to watch it but i might not be able to. Along with probably hundreds of thousands of other people.
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Taffer posted:Timezones obviously cannot please the whole world, but it is very WTF that the entire event, group stage + main event, is all during weekdays. You'd really think that at least the last two days of the main event would be saturday/sunday, but nope. I really wanted to be able to watch it but i might not be able to. Along with probably hundreds of thousands of other people. I'm pretty sure the final is on saturday.
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It probably costs more to rent out the venue on weekends/maybe this was the only way they could get enough consecutive days because other stuff was booked?
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drunken officeparty posted:also im fascinated by how the money works in this. like pyrion what js your day job because obvii you arent a full time dota dude. or like shane, he isnt even a part time dota dude. is he being paid to sit on the couch? how much and why. what does he do normally. is LD making dota millions? does he have to do other stuff? the world may never know PFlax is a stay at home dad and does Dota stuff on the side as supplemental income. LD is probably pretty well off given how successful BTS has been. Dunno about Shane, I assume he has a day job since I've only ever seen him doing Dreamleague.
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Bardeh posted:I think 2GD said his fee for Shanghai was $10k? I don't know if Pflax is getting the big presenter bucks like that, but it's still probably not too shabby. Supplement that with announcer pack cash, youtube and Twitch money, and other events sprinkled throughout the year and the bigger DOTA 2 personalities are all probably making a decent living. Uh, you may have forgotten, but they tried to pay people with residuals from signed hat cosmetics. And the community went nuts. Especially since Valve still keeps most of that money, too. (edit: iirc James was one of the few people who actually had a salary, everybody else was being paid with 25% virtual hat-bux until James spoke up that he felt like poo poo being a salaried man among slave laborers.) Someday gamers will be convinced to drop PayPal and actual monetary currency with Steam Transactions where you give your friend  and he gets $2.50 and Valve gets $7.50. They'll all accept this willingly because Half-Life was a totally awesome game.
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Taffer posted:Tell your work that your mom died I would feel awful as my boss let me off work for a month while my dad was in the hospital dying. She lets me watch the streams of games and only rolls her eyes when I shout at my tablet propped next to my computer.
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Craptacular! posted:Uh, you may have forgotten, but they tried to pay people with residuals from signed hat cosmetics. And the community went nuts. Especially since Valve still keeps most of that money, too. (edit: iirc James was one of the few people who actually had a salary, everybody else was being paid with 25% virtual hat-bux until James spoke up that he felt like poo poo being a salaried man among slave laborers.) Valve is a great company and the fact that they fired 2GD from a tournament Gabe didn't even want to fly out to after he protested to help Valve hired workers to be treated like human beings, well those are all unrelated to each other. Also, despite paying 10 bucks for a compendium I for one am glad 90 percent of the good rewards cost a dozen additional donations, and I'm glad that the 'trading cards' still a week later cannot be traded because the player, team, and even rarity do not load in Steam's trading window. Also a random fun fact: 420BootyWizard the guy who sat next to Dendi for the big fun match last year, made an AMA where he confirmed he nor the other players actually ever got their prize despite giving their Steam IDs to Valve employees. 7 bucks saved again by Valve, the most efficient company ever. The one thing I'm not sarcastic about : Every time Alliance does something perfect in a game for a 20 million dollar tournament I feel really good and nostalgic and laugh at everyone who compares them to a fully dead team like Na'vi. That comeback over EG must be the best game of the pre-tournament.
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Na'vi is gonna eliminate Alliance, save this post.
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drunken officeparty posted:also im fascinated by how the money works in this. like pyrion what js your day job because obvii you arent a full time dota dude. or like shane, he isnt even a part time dota dude. is he being paid to sit on the couch? how much and why. what does he do normally. is LD making dota millions? does he have to do other stuff? the world may never know LD co-owns/runs Beyond The Summit. I work in the hawt esports industry as well (literally how I make a very comfortable living) and if you think these personalities, players, coaches only come to big events and cast then lol anyways see ya'll at TI
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Peanut President posted:Na'vi is gonna eliminate Alliance, save this post. Uh this requires Na'vi to eliminate Liquid first.
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Aug 7, 2016 13:57
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more like dICK posted:Uh this requires Na'vi to eliminate Liquid first. Also it would require Alliance to first lose to EHO- Ahahahaha who am I kidding we all know EHOME is going smash Alliance like a cream puff.
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Aug 7, 2016 14:00
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i feel like na'vi and alliance are both in that weird spot right now where they're probably not a top tier team but on a good day for seemingly no reason can make any opposing team look like a pubstack.
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Pyrion Flax posted:Thank you. Done, let me know when its safe to uncross them. Thanks, its annoyingly formatted and the game descriptions are stupid, but its better than nothing. So secret are bad. Thats pretty funny.
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botany posted:i feel like na'vi and alliance are both in that weird spot right now where they're probably not a top tier team but on a good day for seemingly no reason can make any opposing team look like a pubstack. the word for that is "B-tier"
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ElNarez posted:the word for that is "B-tier" Upper bracket TI6 mate
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TheRat posted:Upper bracket TI6 mate "lucky B-tier" then
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TheRat posted:Upper bracket TI6 mate 1 game away from having to tie break with Jimmy Demon Ho
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I feel like Navi could disappear in bottom place for a second straight year, but could also go on a pretty good lower bracket run if they can squeak past Liquid in this BO1. It's going to require Dendi and General to show up at their best, though, because Liquid's supports > Navi's supports.
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liquid are not looking so hot so i wouldnt really be surprised either way
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Yeah after watching some vods of liquids games from the group stage I definitely think navi look stronger. Like just watch both games against secret to see some very questionable decisions by liquid. I feel like Jerax was the only one on his A game.
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Aug 7, 2016 17:20
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Alliance has a 100% TI winrate when they get to the main stage
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Infallible logic:quote:The first ocurrence of Jacky 'EternalEnvy' Mao having a hand in the fate of who won TI was at TI3, where s4, Loda and co. showed the world 'kick EE, win TI'. Last year at TI5 it was shown that this also worked in reverse, 'Get kicked by EE, win TI', when EG won having picked up Aui_2000 only a short time prior to TI. This year we take a look, no one has recently kicked EE, so we have no contenders for that. DC however have 2 team members who were recently-ish kicked by Jacky 'EternalEnvy' Mao from Team Secret. That's twice the TI winning power. Therefore, Digital Chaos will win TI. Sunsfanned.
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Craptacular! posted:Infallible logic: They gotta do a no legs draft tho.
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Craptacular! posted:I feel like Navi could disappear in bottom place for a second straight year, but could also go on a pretty good lower bracket run if they can squeak past Liquid in this BO1. It's going to require Dendi and General to show up at their best, though, because Liquid's supports > Navi's supports. You mean liquids supports> sonneiko cuz we all know navi runs 4 cores
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It's gonna be funny whether Navi or liquid is eliminated because Navi has tons of fans and liquid was for many a favorite to win it all (since they got second at Manila)
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If Liquid pick/ban SK and Io, they will probably win. Otherwise its a crapshoot.
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Liquid are cursed to forever be the bridesmaid never the bride because the organization betrayed their NA roots #dignitas2017
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drunken officeparty posted:Liquid are cursed to forever be the bridesmaid never the bride because the organization betrayed their NA roots Liquid is HQed in the Netherlands
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Elyv posted:Liquid is HQed in the Netherlands The ultimate betrayal
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