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Zo
Feb 22, 2005

LIKE A FOX

Broseph Brostar posted:

Because most of the server instability was over with before map apps were a thing

Did you forget the part where they launched in like a dozen more countries after the scanners were blocked?


I mean I'm already running my scanner again, but no matter how paranoid you are about everything niantic says is a lie, let's not pretend they aren't a massive resource drain on the servers.

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Unsmart
Oct 6, 2006

I don't think anyone is disputing load would go down. He's saying it doubled load, I'm saying that graph is garbage.

Unsmart fucked around with this message at 17:47 on Aug 7, 2016

Zo
Feb 22, 2005

LIKE A FOX
Also, before anyone gets the wrong idea, I'm not hypocritical, I'm just an rear end in a top hat.

Happy Noodle Boy
Jul 3, 2002


I'll be more than happy to not use a scanner again once they re-introduce some way of actually finding pokemon near you within the app itself.

Until then, I'll keep using a scanner but :lol: at aimlessly walking hoping you're going the right way.

Jen X
Sep 29, 2014

To bring light to the darkness, whether that darkness be ignorance, injustice, apathy, or stagnation.

Happy Noodle Boy posted:

I'll be more than happy to not use a scanner again once they re-introduce some way of actually finding pokemon near you within the app itself.

Until then, I'll keep using a scanner but :lol: at aimlessly walking hoping you're going the right way.

Yuuup

theflyingexecutive
Apr 22, 2007

I'm ENTITLED to a feature in this free game and I will continue to steal resources and time from them until they give it to me!

Jen X
Sep 29, 2014

To bring light to the darkness, whether that darkness be ignorance, injustice, apathy, or stagnation.

theflyingexecutive posted:

I'm ENTITLED to a feature in this free game and I will continue to steal resources and time from them until they give it to me!

:wom:

BrianBoitano
Nov 15, 2006

this is fine



In other news, the scanner showed me a wigglytuff. It was my first one, so I decided to buy and pop a lucky egg before catching it. 15 minutes of evolving later (3 of which were new pokedex entries) and I decide to see how much time is left on my lucky egg.

I never started it :suicide:

stev
Jan 22, 2013

Please be excited.



theflyingexecutive posted:

I'm ENTITLED to a feature in this free game and I will continue to steal resources and time from them until they give it to me!

Holy poo poo the word 'steal' in no way applies here.

motoh
Oct 16, 2012

The clack of a light autocannon going off is just how you know everything's alright.

theflyingexecutive posted:

I'm ENTITLED to a feature in this free game and I will continue to steal resources and time from them until they give it to me!

Not entitled, just capable. And since the game is unenjoyable without, I use the capability or I don't play.

It isn't some righteous crusade like you're making it out to be.

Now Niantic's disingenuous graph is a different topic.

theflyingexecutive
Apr 22, 2007

Ugh, you don't have spearmint after dinner candies? Well, I'll just be over here shoveling peppermints in my pockets until you get some more

Unsmart
Oct 6, 2006

BrianBoitano posted:

In other news, the scanner showed me a wigglytuff. It was my first one, so I decided to buy and pop a lucky egg before catching it. 15 minutes of evolving later (3 of which were new pokedex entries) and I decide to see how much time is left on my lucky egg.

I never started it :suicide:

Please don't mention scanners, that guy's head might explode.

Internet Explorer
Jun 1, 2005





WON'T SOMEONE THINK OF THE MULTI-BILLION DOLLAR CORPORATIONS!!?!

Space Skeleton
Sep 28, 2004

theflyingexecutive posted:

I'm ENTITLED to a feature in this free game and I will continue to steal resources and time from them until they give it to me!

That's a bit overstating it, I think some feature to see how far you are from the nearby pokemon is necessary. I just don't think it's fair to them if third party apps/sites are causing them problems because selfishly I would prefer they are able to focus on updating the game instead of dealing with that.

theflyingexecutive
Apr 22, 2007

Steve2911 posted:

Holy poo poo the word 'steal' in no way applies here.

Scanners use extra server power. Servers cost money to run and devs are being paid to stop the scanners. Yes it is theft

Cartouche
Jan 4, 2011

sirtommygunn posted:

The graph is useless at best and actively misleading at worst. That's not paranoia about "big bad Niantic", that's pointing out that its loving garbage and tells us less than nothing.

Oh no, a company may be misleading people who seek to cheat the system. :abloo:

stev
Jan 22, 2013

Please be excited.



theflyingexecutive posted:

Ugh, you don't have spearmint after dinner candies? Well, I'll just be over here shoveling peppermints in my pockets until you get some more

"Let me show you to your table, sir. We're trying to cut costs so we've cut the electricity. You'll be eating in the dark. There's a light switch by your table but don't you dare flick it, so help me god".

theflyingexecutive
Apr 22, 2007

Internet Explorer posted:

WON'T SOMEONE THINK OF THE MULTI-BILLION DOLLAR CORPORATIONS!!?!

Theft is theft

Unsmart
Oct 6, 2006

Cartouche posted:

Oh no, a company may be misleading people who seek to cheat the system. :abloo:

Well no, that graph was distributed to everyone. This is fun though.

Zo
Feb 22, 2005

LIKE A FOX
This may be controversial, but i think both the people exaggerating the use of scanners as theft, and the people feeling intense spite over an innocuous graph, are loving retards.

theflyingexecutive
Apr 22, 2007

Steve2911 posted:

"Let me show you to your table, sir. We're trying to cut costs so we've cut the electricity. You'll be eating in the dark. There's a light switch by your table but don't you dare flick it, so help me god".

In this example, the food is free and the light switch is behind a locked door that says employees only

Bone
Feb 15, 2007

We're boned.


My top 5 IV dudes. Can't wait to get enough Charmander candy to get him gym ready, too bad that'll take like 3 years at this rate :v:

SuccinctAndPunchy
Mar 29, 2013

People are supposed to get hurt by things. It's fucked up to not. It's not good for you.

Cartouche posted:

Oh no, a company may be misleading people who seek to cheat the system. :abloo:

more like people who seek to make the game playable since they actively removed a feature from the game because they're dumb lol


Bad post is bad.

Grundulum
Feb 28, 2006
I read the last four or five pages and didn't see this mentioned, so maybe you all can help a brother out.

Is this an actual group full of serious people, or is it a Ken M-style joke that went sailing over my head?

https://m.facebook.com/ChristiansAgainstPokemonGo/

quote:

A "covet" is a kind of move in Pokemon Go. What does the Word say about this?

Put to death therefore what is earthly in you: sexual impurity, immorality, passion, evil desire, covetousness, which is idolatry. (Colossians 3:5)

Why is this not clear to you lukewarm Christians?

quote:

... On the right is the spiritual condition of your sexuality if you engage in sexual relations on a casual basis, watch porn, or entertain sexual ideations whilst playing Pokemon Go.

...

Put aside this game, for it is an aberration!
:psyduck:

theflyingexecutive
Apr 22, 2007

Zo posted:

This may be controversial, but i think both the people exaggerating the use of scanners as theft, and the people feeling intense spite over an innocuous graph, are loving retards.

It's not thousands or even hundreds of dollars, but doing something the company has very clearly said is harming their product and their ability to deliver it is not right. People are using the graph to minimize their guilt over gleefully disobeying this request

Unsmart
Oct 6, 2006

Grundulum posted:

I read the last four or five pages and didn't see this mentioned, so maybe you all can help a brother out.

Is this an actual group full of serious people, or is it a Ken M-style joke that went sailing over my head?

https://m.facebook.com/ChristiansAgainstPokemonGo/


:psyduck:

Seems like a joke but it is the internet so idk.

Ed: I just wanted to talk about why an unlabeled graph was not useful. :allears:

Unsmart fucked around with this message at 18:04 on Aug 7, 2016

stev
Jan 22, 2013

Please be excited.



theflyingexecutive posted:

In this example, the food is free and the light switch is behind a locked door that says employees only

Access to the restaurant is free. You can have the food for free too if you can find it in the dark.

theflyingexecutive
Apr 22, 2007

SuccinctAndPunchy posted:

more like people who seek to make the game playable since they actively removed a feature from the game because they're dumb lol


Bad post is bad.

It's a free game, you don't have to play it. You are not entitled to a game feature and you are not morally justified in stealing from a company in order to sate this entitlement

ymgve
Jan 2, 2004


:dukedog:
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motoh
Oct 16, 2012

The clack of a light autocannon going off is just how you know everything's alright.

theflyingexecutive posted:

It's a free game, you don't have to play it. You are not entitled to a game feature and you are not morally justified in stealing from a company in order to sate this entitlement

Do you reimburse mall stores for the wear and tear on their carpet if you window shop?

theflyingexecutive
Apr 22, 2007

Steve2911 posted:

Access to the restaurant is free. You can have the food for free too if you can find it in the dark.

Free food and other things to do in the restaurant that aren't in the dark? Not a bad deal

theflyingexecutive
Apr 22, 2007

motoh posted:

Do you reimburse mall stores for the wear and tear on their carpet if you window shop?

It's electronic, so there isn't a perfect analogy, but if I brought a hundred people into a store and we all went into the back room to rifle through their storage, it wouldn't be a good or legal thing

HATECUBE
Mar 2, 2007

ive never seen a baby that huge, what kind of ball do you throw at that?

theflyingexecutive
Apr 22, 2007

These would all be perfectly valid points if Niantic hadn't explicitly said that scanners were using a ton of extra resources and preventing them from rolling out the game to other countries.

HATECUBE
Mar 2, 2007

nice pokemon meltdown

you wave that banner

Mierenneuker
Apr 28, 2010


We're all going to experience changes in our life but only the best of us will qualify for front row seats.

Bacon Hat posted:

ive never seen a baby that huge, what kind of ball do you throw at that?

A master ball, but I'm not sure if it's good enough to contain it.

Dahbadu
Aug 22, 2004

Reddit has helpfully advised me that I look like a "15 year old fortnite boi"

Bill Barber posted:



I know it's not a fancy dragon but a 100% IV max evolution Pokemon with the best possible moveset is kinda fun from a perfectionist standpoint.

That's an awesome pokemon, and the 50% crit chance on that move seems really cool. Grats man!

The problem I have with Nidos is they're Ground pokemon, so they get beat up by Water pretty good. Water is everywhere! :(

But when they release new pokemon, I'm sure it'll change up the meta. Super sweet poke you got there.

Elman
Oct 26, 2009

I don't wanna use scanners or gps spoof to farm pokestops, but the longer they take to fix the tracker or the capture difficulty "bug" the harder it becomes.

I'm level 20, a 40cp Weedle shouldn't be breaking out of 7 balls and escaping.

SuccinctAndPunchy
Mar 29, 2013

People are supposed to get hurt by things. It's fucked up to not. It's not good for you.

theflyingexecutive posted:

It's a free game, you don't have to play it. You are not entitled to a game feature and you are not morally justified in stealing from a company in order to sate this entitlement

continuing to reaffirm my belief that people who seriously use the word "entitlement" as an argument are several kinds of retarded

nice meltdown tho bro, I'm sure you'll change a lot of minds

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HATECUBE
Mar 2, 2007

Elman posted:

I don't wanna use scanners or gps spoof to farm pokestops, but the longer they take to fix the tracker or the capture difficulty "bug" the harder it becomes.

honestly, the API change was probably a means to let them try to re-implement tracking in game

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