Which non-Power of the Daleks story would you like to see an episode found from? This poll is closed. |
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Marco Polo | 36 | 20.69% | |
The Myth Makers | 10 | 5.75% | |
The Massacre of St. Bartholomew's Eve | 45 | 25.86% | |
The Savages | 2 | 1.15% | |
The Smugglers | 2 | 1.15% | |
The Highlanders | 45 | 25.86% | |
The Macra Terror | 21 | 12.07% | |
Fury from the Deep | 13 | 7.47% | |
Total: | 174 votes |
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I started watching Supergirl and was amused to notice that the government organisation responsible for handling alien threats was using Greyhound and Trap callsigns.Lottery of Babylon posted:I am shocked that there would be any conservative fans of a show that has recently had episodes about how abortion is evil, medication for mental illness is wrong, and immigrants are secret ISIS agents trying to overthrow us. One of the most vocal conservative shitlords in Australian parliament is also a massive Doctor Who nerd.
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# ? Aug 6, 2016 17:23 |
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# ? Jun 7, 2024 22:09 |
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https://twitter.com/altrightwho/status/717402091082420224
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# ? Aug 6, 2016 17:32 |
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The aggressive point-missing you see in conservative fans of liberal-philosophy genre works is always . The various Star Treks get it a lot, too. I'd love to post a point-by-point refutation, but in the meantime: Or maybe I'll just gush over Caves of Androzani's vicious portrayal of capitalism and the military (or the destructive nature of entitlement!) instead. We'll see!
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# ? Aug 6, 2016 17:33 |
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jivjov posted:Is that an actual serious account? I thought, based on the image alone, that it was parody/satire! *Why only having one companion at a time is good fiscal responsibility*
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# ? Aug 6, 2016 17:40 |
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Has it mentioned the dreaded.... "Gay Agenda" like I'd imagine it to? Oh here we go This has got to be a parody account....Surely
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# ? Aug 6, 2016 17:47 |
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Paul McGann's Doctor as pro-military
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# ? Aug 6, 2016 21:25 |
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The risk of really cutting satire is being mistaken for what you're mocking.
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# ? Aug 6, 2016 21:42 |
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happyhippy posted:*10000 word post on how Davros is mis-understood and why the Cybermen are the most patriotic troops you could have* DAVROS DID NOTHING WRONG!! Also that guy Salamander was just really misunderstood and if you really look at his actual philosophy he had a lot of good points.
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# ? Aug 6, 2016 23:06 |
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I'm a right-wing moderate, and 2016 has been REALLY loving hard... But Doctor Who has always been non-political to me. Sure, you have the anti-Thatcher leanings of the Seventh Doctor (The Happiness Patrol) but it's never been "AHA THE AGENDA!" It's always been "story first, THEN politics (if any)." Still, what I wouldn't give to find the person behind that account and give them such a smack.
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# ? Aug 7, 2016 00:32 |
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CobiWann posted:But Doctor Who has always been non-political to me. Sure, you have the anti-Thatcher leanings of the Seventh Doctor (The Happiness Patrol) but it's never been "AHA THE AGENDA!" It's always been "story first, THEN politics (if any)." I'm not going to scream "authorial intent!!!" at you (because that's silly, to quote Leela) but there's an awful lot of politics in Doctor Who. A wodge of it, like the politics in something like a Shakespeare play, gets lost on most of the audience watching thirty, forty, fifty years on because the context has been lost. It's a good kicking off point for analysis if nothing else.
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# ? Aug 7, 2016 08:52 |
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Also I know there's no accounting for taste but not even this kind of idiot would pick this story for this tweet if it wasn't parody: https://twitter.com/AltRightWho/status/739939450516606976
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# ? Aug 7, 2016 08:54 |
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Yeah this thing has to be parody. It HAS to be.
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# ? Aug 7, 2016 09:01 |
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MrL_JaKiri posted:I'm not going to scream "authorial intent!!!" at you (because that's silly, to quote Leela) but there's an awful lot of politics in Doctor Who. A wodge of it, like the politics in something like a Shakespeare play, gets lost on most of the audience watching thirty, forty, fifty years on because the context has been lost. poo poo, even the Daleks were basically everyone's lingering fears from World War II in physical form; Space Nazis in a nuclear-blasted hellscape. It's great to look at what we saw when it was current and go 'how much of this is gonna look really fuckin' weird when the context is no longer recent'. One of the best DVDs I own is the first season of The Chaser's War on Everything, an Australian current-affairs comedy show that first aired maybe ten years ago now, and it's fascinating to see all of these jokes that almost don't even classify as jokes anymore because they were about such public-yet-transient subjects that they felt no need to introduce them and yet you have no idea what they are. And then every so often it gets mixed in with 'oh god that's our Prime Minister back when he was Minister for Health'. I do wonder exactly what stories from New Who will be able to shake off overt themes and references and which ones will just look SUPER dated, though. The reality show parodies in Bad Wolf and the Olympics focus in Fear Her have clearly already hit the latter (although in fairness they're ten years old now too), but I think other than those two most New Who stories will hold up pretty well. Some might even get better; I don't think Invasion/Inversion of the Zygons will ever be anything better than a bad story with some good moments, but I could see it being a lot more palatable to future viewers who don't know the current events it was 'commenting' on. EDIT: Oh, poo poo, The Bells of Saint John is gonna look hilariously out of touch when all the tech it hinges everything on has run its course. Cleretic fucked around with this message at 09:59 on Aug 7, 2016 |
# ? Aug 7, 2016 09:55 |
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Cleretic posted:EDIT: Oh, poo poo, The Bells of Saint John is gonna look hilariously out of touch when all the tech it hinges everything on has run its course. To be fair, the show quite clearly dates the episodes itself so you know what you're seeing is a product of the time. By which I mean anybody watching is going to know that it's London in 2013 and that people at the time were using tablets, wifi, social media accounts etc. Even if it will seem quaint in 50 years, it's not going to have the issue of being an episode set in a future that bears absolutely no similarities to when that actually becomes the present.
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# ? Aug 7, 2016 10:15 |
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Jerusalem posted:Yeah this thing has to be parody. I'd say picking "The Horns of Nimon" is a bit of a giveaway. However - and don't take it as a bad thing - I think that Moffat is really good at producing "content made to please Tumblr". One impression I have of the revival in general is that RTD Who (especially the first season) is like a really good CBBC show, while Moffat Who is more like an okay CW show with flashes of brilliance. Cleretic posted:I do wonder exactly what stories from New Who will be able to shake off overt themes and references and which ones will just look SUPER dated, though. The reality show parodies in Bad Wolf and the Olympics focus in Fear Her have clearly already hit the latter (although in fairness they're ten years old now too), but I think other than those two most New Who stories will hold up pretty well. I wonder what people in 10 years will think of the "Obama has a plan to fix everything" bit from "The End of Time"? It's very 2009. I wonder if the next series will make any references to soon-to-be-President Trump? Jerusalem posted:To be fair, the show quite clearly dates the episodes itself so you know what you're seeing is a product of the time. By which I mean anybody watching is going to know that it's London in 2013 and that people at the time were using tablets, wifi, social media accounts etc. Even if it will seem quaint in 50 years, it's not going to have the issue of being an episode set in a future that bears absolutely no similarities to when that actually becomes the present. As far as technology goes, it's always mobile phones that stick out to me. You've got Rose's "superphone" in season one, which the Doctor zaps with his sonic screwdriver so she can make cross-time calls, and I'm pretty sure it was a Nokia 3310 or something like that. It's like that episode of Buffy where the villain is a demon that lives in this mysterious new dimension which nobody really understands called "the Internet". Wheat Loaf fucked around with this message at 12:00 on Aug 7, 2016 |
# ? Aug 7, 2016 11:58 |
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Wheat Loaf posted:I wonder what people in 10 years will think of the "Obama has a plan to fix everything" bit from "The End of Time"? It's very 2009. Hell, I remember people in this thread (including myself) back in 2009 thinking it was pretty drat awful!
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# ? Aug 7, 2016 12:15 |
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Pro military is the best one on there.
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# ? Aug 7, 2016 12:18 |
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Wheat Loaf posted:One impression I have of the revival in general is that RTD Who (especially the first season) is like a really good CBBC show The first thing RTD ever did for television was for CBBC; it was called Dark Season, you can buy it on DVD, and it had some unknown 16-year-old called Kate Winslet playing one of the three leads. Buy it and marvel at how right you are. (Then you should check out the second thing he ever did for television, which was called Century Falls, and is also on DVD, and get extremely depressed that he chose to pattern NewWho after Dark Season instead of Century Falls.)
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# ? Aug 7, 2016 13:40 |
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Trin Tragula posted:The first thing RTD ever did for television was for CBBC; it was called Dark Season, you can buy it on DVD, and it had some unknown 16-year-old called Kate Winslet playing one of the three leads. Buy it and marvel at how right you are. Sure, that was how RTD and Moffat both got started in television - RTD had Dark Season and Moffat had Press Gang. As I've said many times before, my favourite was The Demon Headmaster. Five-year old me was terrified of Terrence Hardiman.
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# ? Aug 7, 2016 14:03 |
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I was six when the Demon Headmaster took over the BBC. I was scared as poo poo.
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# ? Aug 7, 2016 14:40 |
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I think I was the weird kid who read the Demon Headmaster books more than watched the TV. I was the turbo-nerd in my class, so I'd zoom through whatever the teacher assigned and usually they'd let me gently caress around in the mini-library we had between classrooms in my primary school. (We also had a real library but it was barely ever used for that purpose. I was amazed at high school when we had a library you could go to during breaks and like take books out and go home with them to read!)
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# ? Aug 7, 2016 17:13 |
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I also liked the books, but didn't read them until after I'd seen the TV series and I was probably a bit too old for them by then. When the TV series was coming out I barely read at all. It was Horrible Histories that got me reading.
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# ? Aug 7, 2016 18:41 |
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Demon Headmaster, Black Hole Primary and Horrible Histories/Science was most of primary school for me. Then when I was 12 was when I read way too much Star Wars and Star Trek licenced stuff and Animorphs. The more recent Horrible Histories TV version was pretty good. The TV adaptation of Animorphs was... not.
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# ? Aug 7, 2016 18:55 |
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I was actually tempted to start a Dalek political party a while back.
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# ? Aug 7, 2016 19:15 |
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qntm posted:
Jamie and Amy gonna rock that vote hard.
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# ? Aug 7, 2016 20:26 |
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qntm posted:I was actually tempted to start a Dalek political party a while back. I call Chief Whip because I'm lazy and don't want to have to do anything!
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# ? Aug 7, 2016 23:32 |
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I watched Children of Earth over the weekend and didn't like it as much as I'd hoped or as much as other people seem to. The general idea was interesting but there's something about the way it was put together that just didn't work for me in a way I can't really articulate, which is a shame because between my love of BARROWMAN! and girlcrush on Eve Myles I really wanted to be able to actually like some Torchwood. It not being offensively bad like the earlier stuff is a plus I guess, and it was definitely a different look at Capaldi really only knowing him for playing the Doctor otherwise. Though tbh it really kind of killed any interest I had in Jack returning to Doctor Who (either on telly or in Big Finish). The end with killing his grandson means I can't really see him as the same lovable rogue that his Doctor Who character is again, and realising that the "Ten hooks Jack up with the dude from the one with Kylie" from End of Time is meant to be a glib followup to that is kinda off.
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# ? Aug 8, 2016 08:57 |
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Short Synopsis: Stranded in time? Giant Scorpions and Spiders? Certain Death? No problem for the 5th Doctor! Adric on the other hand.... Long Synopsis: The Doctor and Nyssa's attempt to escape their marooning in Victorian London via Block-Transfer Calculations, but end up in a prehistoric period of Earth that never existed. The dinosaurs never were, and giant scorpions nest in a city designed as a giant computer built for the express purpose of summoning the Doctor. He must answer for his "crimes" in deserting a former companion to death, and a fate worse than death awaits Nyssa. What's Good:
What's Not:
Final Thoughts: The Boy That Time Forgot is a story I kinda wish time had forgotten to make. There are potentially interesting things to do and say with the storyline but just because you can tell a story doesn't always mean you should. All joking aside, Adric's character had a beginning, middle and end. That end, abrupt and shocking as it was, was still an ending that serviced character interactions and the loose continuity the show was indulging in at the time. Bringing Adric back doesn't really add to or improve on the story in any way other than allowing the character to have a moment of peaceful acceptance that is far weaker than his televised ending of,"Now I'll never know if I was right..." I was never a fan of Adric but I'd probably be as inclined to dislike a story with a character I really did like - Donna Noble got a horrific ending to her adventures with the Doctor but it was also a powerful one and I wouldn't change that. Andrew Sachs performance matches the script he was given, and that amounts to a somewhat manic, slightly senile, self-obsessed creep with an obsessive streak - hardly a character I'm inclined to want to hear more of or see get a happy ending. As I mentioned above - I just don't see WHY this story had to be made, who was pining for it, what it ultimately achieved. Or rather, I can see what it was going for, and I disagree it should have gone for that in the first place. Not a story I'm in any rush to ever listen to again, though technically it is "important" in that it bridges the gap between The Haunting of Thomas Brewster and Time Reef and establishes the Doctor's newest companion. Listen for yourself and make your own judgment of course, but this is not a story I'd recommend.
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# ? Aug 8, 2016 13:08 |
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The Boy that Time Forgot was very much a "Well...those things happened...I guess?" for me. I remember being indifferent to most of the following stories too - which is not to say they don't have their good/bad moments.
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# ? Aug 8, 2016 15:14 |
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Why the hell am I listening to Graceless? Except for Destroyer of Delights (which, aside from a great take on the Black and White guardians, would have worked just fine on its own), I hated the Key2Time stuff. Part one, The Sphere, was just pointless. I think I'll just - David Warner posted:You're under arrest. I can't wait for part two! Jerusalem posted:I just don't see WHY this story had to be made, who was pining for it, what it ultimately achieved. Or rather, I can see what it was going for, and I disagree it should have gone for that in the first place. Save this. You'll need it.
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# ? Aug 8, 2016 19:39 |
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After The War posted:Why the hell am I listening to Graceless? Did you not read my OP? CaptainYesterday posted:A BRIEF GUIDE TO BIG FINISH
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# ? Aug 8, 2016 20:29 |
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CaptainYesterday posted:Did you not read my OP? I resent you grouping Charlie under the "who gives a poo poo" category!
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# ? Aug 8, 2016 20:38 |
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jivjov posted:I resent you grouping Charlie under the "who gives a poo poo" category! Still don't give a poo poo about her series
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# ? Aug 8, 2016 20:48 |
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Vienna is still wins the a gold star for "the who could honestly give a flying gently caress" spin-off award.
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# ? Aug 8, 2016 20:58 |
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Charleys boxset was the most disappointing thing Big Finish has ever done. loving terrible.
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# ? Aug 8, 2016 21:16 |
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Chairman Mao posted:Charleys boxset was the most disappointing thing Big Finish has ever done. loving terrible. nope, that'd be The Widow's Assassin
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# ? Aug 8, 2016 21:27 |
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Chairman Mao posted:Charleys boxset was the most disappointing thing Big Finish has ever done. loving terrible. This makes me sad...that's coming up soon in my listen-list.
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# ? Aug 8, 2016 22:55 |
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After The War posted:I can't wait for part two! David Warner is a global treasure I love that he's in one of the War Doctor boxsets because he showed up to the studios just to say hello to John Hurt and ended up being cast as a major villain Jerusalem fucked around with this message at 23:40 on Aug 8, 2016 |
# ? Aug 8, 2016 23:24 |
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DoctorWhat posted:nope, that'd be The Widow's Assassin Really, why? Charley's boxset was hyped for literally years before pen was even out to paper, her whole arc with Colin Baker was clearly setting her up for her own series, and it was the first and last time in a while that we'd heard her in an audio. Other than it being a follow up to piscon paradox, what did the widows assassin have going for it?
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# ? Aug 9, 2016 00:12 |
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# ? Jun 7, 2024 22:09 |
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Jerusalem posted:David Warner is a global treasure Because he's David goddamn Warner. It's weird when he isn't playing a villain.
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# ? Aug 9, 2016 00:51 |