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Mirthless posted:But that's all they are these days. That's how they get elected and it's the driving force behind the entirety of the new guard of the GOP. Where do you think the anti-Obama thing is rooted? I mean, racism obviously, but pandering to racists is just populism in it's basest form. well they are and they aren't. the base is entirely white nationalist, but do you think they're the ones clamoring for these economic proposals allegedly from trump? republican economics is still 100% elite establishment directed, and that'll be the case for most of trump's policies
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FAUXTON posted:I think it's more "just because" she's been beating Trump by double/high single digits in the polls for two weeks now chief. Acting like she's too busy beating the poo poo out of the trumpeteers in their own territory to notice a potential comeback in North Carolina is loving funny as hell because it's like some poo poo the loser says in street fighter when they're all beat to hell and bruised up. YOU MAY BE THROWING ME OVER THAT BARREL AGAIN BUT JUST YOU WAIT! I'M NOT OWNED im not owned *picks a fight with a baby* *is a corncob* Not just two weeks Hillary has been consistently ahead, often by more than 10 points, for a very long time. She had a brief dip for a few weeks between emailgate and the GOP convention but we're right back to where we were before. (Well, a little ahead, but really)
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exquisite tea posted:Clinton has about as much chance of winning Texas as Trump has of winning Illinois. They both went by similar margins last year. Point. Democrats seem much more focused on the downballot than Trump is, given his very reluctant refusal to support them.
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jackofarcades posted:I think Tim Kaine going to Austin is about more than winning Texas this year, but encouraging the growth of the Dem Party on TX Yeah it's about loving up my commute.
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Zas posted:well they are and they aren't. the base is entirely white nationalist, but do you think they're the ones clamoring for these economic proposals allegedly from trump? republican economics is still 100% elite establishment directed, and that'll be the case for most of trump's policies Oh, yeah, of course their policies aren't populist. I'm just saying, they don't have any problem wielding populism to get elected despite this. Populism is more about emotion than reason, which is why Trump has been so successful in this election.
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zen death robot posted:I still don't see what the independent guy who can't run in half of the states is gonna do unless he gets some legal backing to fight being locked out of the ballot already Keep Trump from winning Utah sounds like their best case scenario. Not that this guy'd win it. But maybe peel off enough Mormons that Trump can't either. But yeah, even that's iffy as hell.
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oddium posted:i'm voting for Cool Guyman even if he's not on my state's ballot I write-in Weedlord Bonerhitler every election 
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jackofarcades posted:I think Tim Kaine going to Austin is about more than winning Texas this year, but encouraging the growth of the Dem Party on TX  Texas is blue in the next 20 years if the GOP can't stop hemorrhaging hispanic support. If Clinton gave Trump a run for his money on the state it could flip downticket and embolden the party in the future. That means more investment on the state level and more investment from the national party.
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zen death robot posted:I still don't see what the independent guy who can't run in half of the states is gonna do unless he gets some legal backing to fight being locked out of the ballot already That's what Anderson did in '80 and I do believe he actually won the lawsuits in a few states to get put on the ballot past the deadline.
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Boosted_C5 posted:Otherwise the same things - 3 individual brackets, 15% corporate tax, no more special treatment for carried interest, no more estate tax, reduced tax hit for repatriation of assets/funds parked abroad, etc. I'm amazed you didn't call it the death tax. How many people do you know, personally, that the estate tax affects/affected?
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This thread is making my Twitter active. I keep shooting hot takes at the idiots linked here. Also boosted is a temporarily embarrassed millionaire I guess. So he's old guard voter as gently caress. But I guess the tax cuts never made the money come flowing in so he's down to light the place on fire.
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thrawn527 posted:Keep Trump from winning Utah sounds like their best case scenario. Not that this guy'd win it. But maybe peel off enough Mormons that Trump can't either. But yeah, even that's iffy as hell. Utah is a combo of NeverTrump Mormons, Gary Johnson, and now this guy. If a third party candidate is going to snipe a state from Trump or Hillary, it's going to be Utah.
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Boosted_C5 posted:Democrats have already ruined New York and California. I pray the people of Texas never suffer the same fate and are subjected to the onerous nightmare that is Democratic governance. Kiss your rights goodbye and open up your wallet. Wear the hat, Boosted.
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Boosted_C5 posted:Democrats have already ruined New York and California. I pray the people of Texas never suffer the same fate and are subjected to the onerous nightmare that is Democratic governance. Kiss your rights goodbye and open up your wallet. enjoy all the california transplants to austin 
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Boosted_C5 posted:Democrats have already ruined New York and California. I pray the people of Texas never suffer the same fate and are subjected to the onerous nightmare that is Democratic governance. Kiss your rights goodbye and open up your wallet. Lol. Dems are only in control of Manhattan in New York. Which is still the symbol of the country and doing great.
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gently caress You And Diebold posted:https://twitter.com/ChrisSnyderFox/status/762500789365383169 "Regulatory pause period"? That sounds... bad and dumb.
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Mirthless posted:Oh, yeah, of course their policies aren't populist. I'm just saying, they don't have any problem wielding populism to get elected despite this. Populism is more about emotion than reason, which is why Trump has been so successful in this election. yeah I mean, I think there's a strong desire for a sort of white nationalist party of the kind that trump partially represents, but with more left wing sanders style economics, and a more legitimate anti-globalization bend, which trump hints at but doesn't ever seem to fully embrace. a candidate like that would be a legitimate populist to me, albeit an obviously racist one. but they wouldn't fit into the republican party.
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iospace posted:Utah is a combo of NeverTrump Mormons, Gary Johnson, and now this guy. If a third party candidate is going to snipe a state from Trump or Hillary, it's going to be Utah.
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GreyjoyBastard posted:"Regulatory pause period"? That sounds... bad and dumb. we gotta stop these regulations until we figure out what's going on
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GreyjoyBastard posted:"Regulatory pause period"? That sounds... bad and dumb. One night a year, all financial regulations are lifted...
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zoux posted:This seems like an appeal to the donor class, to me. The donor class understand, better than most, all of Trump's short falls, and more importantly he has proven himself far too erratic to people who want stable and predictable government. making GBS threads on the donor class was one of Trump's strengths. I give it a week of "staying on message" before the GOP realizes that Trump losing with their message is even worse than Trump losing on his own. Muddying the waters between Trumpism and the GOP brand of "conservatism" is not something any Republican elected official should be encouraging.
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pathetic little tramp posted:That's what Anderson did in '80 and I do believe he actually won the lawsuits in a few states to get put on the ballot past the deadline. Found it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anderson_v._Celebrezze But I remembered wrong, that was a lawsuit to get him on the primary ballot, not the general. Still, not outside the realm of possibility.
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Mirthless posted:I honestly don't think Trump is going to win Utah. If I were him I would be campaigning my rear end off there and trying to get as many high profile mormon endorsements as possible. At the end of the day, it's 6 electoral votes. Admittedly Trump needs every single EV he can get but his campaign has got bigger problems, like being 10 down in Pennsylvania.
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gently caress you citizen, we have determined the firearms you prefer most are "ASSAULT WEAPONS" and are now banned. gently caress you citizen, you are not allowed to carry anymore unless you get one of our new permits which your friendly local Democrat police chief can deny you on a whim. gently caress you citizen, you must now report in your vehicle to a government facility for annual smog inspection. gently caress you citizen, you cannot so much as paint your fence a new color without paying shakedown money for a "permit" from your friendly local Democrat beaurocrat. gently caress you citizen, we bought votes with your tax money instead of paying for roads so you must now stop at toll booths and pay a fee to drive on public roads. gently caress you citizen, running a police state, watching your every move, and micromanaging every aspect of your life, which belongs to us, isn't cheap. We have raised your income taxes so we can afford to terrorize you. Except we'll just keep buying more votes instead of actually putting ourselves on sound financial footing. -Life in a typical Democrat run hell-hole.
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exquisite tea posted:At the end of the day, it's 6 electoral votes. Admittedly Trump needs every single EV he can get but his campaign has got bigger problems, like being 10 down in Pennsylvania. Any Trump Wins scenario wins with him by fewer than 20 EVs so 6 EVs matters a whole hell of a lot to his campaign. He can't afford to lose any states. Losing an obvious safe R state like Utah would be horrifically bad for his campaign.
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Boosted_C5 posted:gently caress you citizen, we have determined the firearms you prefer most are "ASSAULT WEAPONS" and are now banned. gently caress you citizen, you are not allowed to carry anymore unless you get one of our new permits which your friendly local Democrat police chief can deny you on a whim. gently caress you citizen, you must now report in your vehicle to a government facility for annual smog inspection. gently caress you citizen, you cannot so much as paint your fence a new color without paying shakedown money for a "permit" from your friendly local Democrat beaurocrat. gently caress you citizen, we bought votes with your tax money instead of paying for roads so you must now stop at toll booths and pay a fee to drive on public roads. gently caress you citizen, running a police state, watching your every move, and micromanaging every aspect of your life, which belongs to us, isn't cheap. We have raised your income taxes so we can afford to terrorize you. Except we'll just keep buying more votes instead of actually putting ourselves on sound financial footing. california's doing pretty well for being, you know, half a desert
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Wrap it up boys, Trump's poll numbers are about to go UP UP UP http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2016/08/08/trump_hit_his_ceiling_131448.html
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Boosted_C5 posted:gently caress you citizen, we have determined the firearms you prefer most are "ASSAULT WEAPONS" and are now banned. gently caress you citizen, you are not allowed to carry anymore unless you get one of our new permits which your friendly local Democrat police chief can deny you on a whim. gently caress you citizen, you must now report in your vehicle to a government facility for annual smog inspection. gently caress you citizen, you cannot so much as paint your fence a new color without paying shakedown money for a "permit" from your friendly local Democrat beaurocrat. gently caress you citizen, we bought votes with your tax money instead of paying for roads so you must now stop at toll booths and pay a fee to drive on public roads. gently caress you citizen, running a police state, watching your every move, and micromanaging every aspect of your life, which belongs to us, isn't cheap. We have raised your income taxes so we can afford to terrorize you. Except we'll just keep buying more votes instead of actually putting ourselves on sound financial footing. My understanding is that smog is actually pretty nasty, and it's a good thing they work to prevent it.
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*quotes article stating that Trump has hit his support ceiling* *see's this is a good thing* *won't wear the hat, is boosted*
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1. Wear the hat and toxx yourself, clown. 2. Has anyone made the joke that the GOPe is hoping to take a McMulligan on their primary?
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Boosted_C5 posted:gently caress you citizen, we have determined the firearms you prefer most are "ASSAULT WEAPONS" and are now banned. gently caress you citizen, you are not allowed to carry anymore unless you get one of our new permits which your friendly local Democrat police chief can deny you on a whim. gently caress you citizen, you must now report in your vehicle to a government facility for annual smog inspection. gently caress you citizen, you cannot so much as paint your fence a new color without paying shakedown money for a "permit" from your friendly local Democrat beaurocrat. gently caress you citizen, we bought votes with your tax money instead of paying for roads so you must now stop at toll booths and pay a fee to drive on public roads. gently caress you citizen, running a police state, watching your every move, and micromanaging every aspect of your life, which belongs to us, isn't cheap. We have raised your income taxes so we can afford to terrorize you. Except we'll just keep buying more votes instead of actually putting ourselves on sound financial footing. nice meltdown
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Boosted_C5 posted:gently caress you citizen, we have determined the firearms you prefer most are "ASSAULT WEAPONS" and are now banned. gently caress you citizen, you are not allowed to carry anymore unless you get one of our new permits which your friendly local Democrat police chief can deny you on a whim. gently caress you citizen, you must now report in your vehicle to a government facility for annual smog inspection. gently caress you citizen, you cannot so much as paint your fence a new color without paying shakedown money for a "permit" from your friendly local Democrat beaurocrat. gently caress you citizen, we bought votes with your tax money instead of paying for roads so you must now stop at toll booths and pay a fee to drive on public roads. gently caress you citizen, running a police state, watching your every move, and micromanaging every aspect of your life, which belongs to us, isn't cheap. We have raised your income taxes so we can afford to terrorize you. Except we'll just keep buying more votes instead of actually putting ourselves on sound financial footing. Sorry about your domestic violence conviction/probation and lovely HOA.
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Boosted_C5 posted:gently caress you citizen, we have determined the firearms you prefer most are "ASSAULT WEAPONS" and are now banned. gently caress you citizen, you are not allowed to carry anymore unless you get one of our new permits which your friendly local Democrat police chief can deny you on a whim. gently caress you citizen, you must now report in your vehicle to a government facility for annual smog inspection. gently caress you citizen, you cannot so much as paint your fence a new color without paying shakedown money for a "permit" from your friendly local Democrat beaurocrat. gently caress you citizen, we bought votes with your tax money instead of paying for roads so you must now stop at toll booths and pay a fee to drive on public roads. gently caress you citizen, running a police state, watching your every move, and micromanaging every aspect of your life, which belongs to us, isn't cheap. We have raised your income taxes so we can afford to terrorize you. Except we'll just keep buying more votes instead of actually putting ourselves on sound financial footing.  that's a good joke from a bad poster
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Boosted_C5 posted:gently caress you citizen, we bought votes with your tax money instead of paying for roads so you must now stop at toll booths and pay a fee to drive on public roads.
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McMuffin update: https://twitter.com/sahilkapur/status/762640481985695744
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Boosted_C5 posted:gently caress you citizen, we have determined the firearms you prefer most are "ASSAULT WEAPONS" and are now banned. gently caress you citizen, you are not allowed to carry anymore unless you get one of our new permits which your friendly local Democrat police chief can deny you on a whim. gently caress you citizen, you must now report in your vehicle to a government facility for annual smog inspection. gently caress you citizen, you cannot so much as paint your fence a new color without paying shakedown money for a "permit" from your friendly local Democrat beaurocrat. gently caress you citizen, we bought votes with your tax money instead of paying for roads so you must now stop at toll booths and pay a fee to drive on public roads. gently caress you citizen, running a police state, watching your every move, and micromanaging every aspect of your life, which belongs to us, isn't cheap. We have raised your income taxes so we can afford to terrorize you. Except we'll just keep buying more votes instead of actually putting ourselves on sound financial footing. Oh no, not the firearms I prefer most!
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Mirthless posted:Any Trump Wins scenario wins with him by fewer than 20 EVs so 6 EVs matters a whole hell of a lot to his campaign. He can't afford to lose any states. Losing an obvious safe R state like Utah would be horrifically bad for his campaign. True, but there's a lot of uncertainty as to how the Utah scenario will play out. Maybe this BYU guy is legit and will siphon away enough votes to throw the state to Johnson or Clinton, but who knows. The point is that Trump is way down in one state he desperately needs to win and decisively down in just about all the others. His campaign's best chance of winning is to go entirely negative on Clinton, hoping that something will break her soft support and get within striking distance of the popular vote on election day. But in order for that to happen, people will have to forget that the name at the top of the ticket is Donald Trump.
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