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Farmer Crack-Ass
Jan 2, 2001

this is me posting irl

thathonkey posted:

Air Force One was on TV recently and I watched almost the whole thing. i still love the movie but man the CG effects are funny as hell. that poo poo did not hold up at all. also the screenplay has several moments for the only black actors in the film to run into a situation room or somesuch and give their higher up white man some news (ie. the audience some exposition).

compare to like eg. Jurassic Park which actually still looks good more or less and is phenomenal as the day it came out :colbert:

Jurassic Park, now there's some computer relics

the movie park had like, what, four Thinking Machines supercomputers networked together and the system still didn't have enough processor time to run the park and compile code at the same time?


(okay, okay, the supercomputers were probably mostly just for the geneticists and the actual park operations were probably on some Sun hardware or something)

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Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaRHU1XxMJQ

It's a UNIX system! I know this!

(Agreed though, the dinosaur effects were super good and I can't think how they could have been improved, especially since the sequels which relied more heavily on CGI seemed to do a worse job at feeling real.)

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Data Graham posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaRHU1XxMJQ

It's a UNIX system! I know this!

(Agreed though, the dinosaur effects were super good and I can't think how they could have been improved, especially since the sequels which relied more heavily on CGI seemed to do a worse job at feeling real.)

There was an FPS in the late 90s early 00s that actually used your folder structure for maps. And photo files in the folders as bitmaps for walls etc. I tried googling a fair bit but cannot find mention of it.

Three-Phase
Aug 5, 2006

by zen death robot

Humphreys posted:

There was an FPS in the late 90s early 00s that actually used your folder structure for maps. And photo files in the folders as bitmaps for walls etc. I tried googling a fair bit but cannot find mention of it.

There's also a game called Lose/Lose...

Chumbawumba4ever97
Dec 31, 2000

by Fluffdaddy

thathonkey posted:

Air Force One was on TV recently and I watched almost the whole thing. i still love the movie but man the CG effects are funny as hell. that poo poo did not hold up at all. also the screenplay has several moments for the only black actors in the film to run into a situation room or somesuch and give their higher up white man some news (ie. the audience some exposition).

compare to like eg. Jurassic Park which actually still looks good more or less and is phenomenal as the day it came out :colbert:

Fun fact: the reason Jurassic Park looks realistic and still holds up today is because a lot of scenes used puppets and not CGI (especially scenes where the dinosaur's faces were up close).

I was watching Little Shop of Horrors the other day, saying to myself "this movie would look so lovely if it was done even today with CGI". It held up really well.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Three-Phase posted:

There's also a game called Lose/Lose...

Yeah, i've always been meaning to fire that one up on a VM

JediTalentAgent
Jun 5, 2005
Hey, look. Look, if- if you screw me on this, I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine, you rat bastard!
A few days ago I watched a bit of "A Sound of Thunder" and those are some grade-A CG dinosaurs from a movie with a $80M budget and 2005.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BwIMb-NvsY

edit: "After Franchise Pictures went bankrupt during post-production, the remaining backers provided only $30 million to work with,[5] out of the $80 million originally allocated"

RestingB1tchFace
Jul 4, 2016

Opinions are like a$$holes....everyone has one....but mines the best!!!

JediTalentAgent posted:

A few days ago I watched a bit of "A Sound of Thunder" and those are some grade-A CG dinosaurs from a movie with a $80M budget and 2005.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BwIMb-NvsY

edit: "After Franchise Pictures went bankrupt during post-production, the remaining backers provided only $30 million to work with,[5] out of the $80 million originally allocated"

Never heard of it....but now I want to watch. It was nominated for a bunch of awards including: Worst Sense of Direction, Most Intrusive Musical Score, and Least "Special" Special Effects.

Casimir Radon
Aug 2, 2008


The acting and direction is so bad that extra effects money wouldn't have helped.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Humphreys posted:

Yeah, i've always been meaning to fire that one up on a VM

Dammit, the Lose/Lose website link to the game is dead :(

stuffed crust punk
Oct 8, 2004

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

Mak0rz posted:

Oh talking about console-pc accessories? I bought a DualShock 2 USB adapter for like $6 from Amazon in 2005 or so. It was made of the cheapest loving plastic you can imagine and it only took a year or so for one of the connectors to come loose (still worked fine for years after that, just needed the cable jiggled now and then). No drivers or anything: you just plugged it in and it loving worked. Hell if it wasn't the best six bucks I've ever spent.

I bought a N64 adapter a few years ago but never tried it. It's still in its packaging.

I may have had this adapter at one point, the drivers sucked so there was a half second lag which made the bowling ball alley room in lttp impossible

Aix
Jul 6, 2006
$10

Humphreys posted:

There was an FPS in the late 90s early 00s that actually used your folder structure for maps. And photo files in the folders as bitmaps for walls etc. I tried googling a fair bit but cannot find mention of it.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virus:_The_Game
I think theres some videos of it on youtube. Horrible game though

r u ready to WALK
Sep 29, 2001

Humphreys posted:

There was an FPS in the late 90s early 00s that actually used your folder structure for maps. And photo files in the folders as bitmaps for walls etc. I tried googling a fair bit but cannot find mention of it.

The only thing that comes to mind is psDOOM which let you murder your computer process by process

https://www.cs.unm.edu/~dlchao/flake/doom/chi/chi.html
http://psdoom.sourceforge.net (it was abandoned 16 years ago so good luck running it)

Mak0rz
Aug 2, 2008

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Uncle at Nintendo posted:

Fun fact: the reason Jurassic Park looks realistic and still holds up today is because a lot of scenes used puppets and not CGI (especially scenes where the dinosaur's faces were up close).

Even the CG shots look good though. Especially the T. rex scenes. They still look great.

Regular Nintendo posted:

I may have had this adapter at one point, the drivers sucked so there was a half second lag which made the bowling ball alley room in lttp impossible

Considering I used it to speedrun Super Metroid and play through Mega Mans 1-7 without any problems, no it probably isn't the same one.

E: I just remembered that I dug it up recently from going through some old junk:


Simple. I used adhesive tack to attach it to the side of my desk and then I'd plug it in as-needed. Handy as heck.

Mak0rz has a new favorite as of 07:31 on Aug 8, 2016

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Aix posted:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virus:_The_Game
I think theres some videos of it on youtube. Horrible game though

Thats the one! thankyou!

barbecue at the folks
Jul 20, 2007


mrwuss posted:

and now thats the way it is with data

I'll never understand why you Americans have to suffer this, I just updated my unlimited 3G for 20 bucks a a month to a plan for unlimited 4G net, calls and texts for 22,90€ per month. I haven't had a separate broadband connection for years since my phone functions so well as a wifi hotspot for all my needs in my tiny apartment.

Alan_Shore
Dec 2, 2004

So I amazingly did win the Hi MD Sony MZ-RH10 on a Japanese auction (thanks, Buyee!). I'm sure I paid way too much for it, the screen might not work? I think I need an adapter and gum battery. Google Translate only tells me so much. Oh, and I'll need a Hi MD too, and those things are BONKERS expensive.

Just been reading about it, and the amount of technical weirdness involved is nuts. Like, the Japanese version of the MZ-RH10 is slightly better because it didn't have to follow the EU/US laws of volume restrictions, so the EQ is nicer. Also, though you can put MP3s on a Hi MD and play them (and use Hi MD as a removable drive), they actually sound WORSE than if you record or rip music with the ATRAC codec. The MiniDisc world is a bizarre and difficult one. I actually managed to track down SonicStage 4.3 though, so that'll be




OH GOD

Mak0rz
Aug 2, 2008

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Naxuz posted:

I'll never understand why you Americans have to suffer this

you would probably have a stroke if you saw canadian mobile plans then

Ein cooler Typ
Nov 26, 2013

by FactsAreUseless
The cgi brontosaurus feet in jpark look bad like they're not touching the ground but Spielberg draws your attention away from the feet so you don't notice

Snow Cone Capone
Jul 31, 2003


Data Graham posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaRHU1XxMJQ

It's a UNIX system! I know this!

(Agreed though, the dinosaur effects were super good and I can't think how they could have been improved, especially since the sequels which relied more heavily on CGI seemed to do a worse job at feeling real.)

It was brought up earlier in the thread but as that video indicates, that 3d filesystem thing is a real thing: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fsn and there is a modern open-source equivalent in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_System_Visualizer

Literally Lewis Hamilton
Feb 22, 2005



Alan_Shore posted:

So I amazingly did win the Hi MD Sony MZ-RH10 on a Japanese auction (thanks, Buyee!). I'm sure I paid way too much for it, the screen might not work? I think I need an adapter and gum battery. Google Translate only tells me so much. Oh, and I'll need a Hi MD too, and those things are BONKERS expensive.

Just been reading about it, and the amount of technical weirdness involved is nuts. Like, the Japanese version of the MZ-RH10 is slightly better because it didn't have to follow the EU/US laws of volume restrictions, so the EQ is nicer. Also, though you can put MP3s on a Hi MD and play them (and use Hi MD as a removable drive), they actually sound WORSE than if you record or rip music with the ATRAC codec. The MiniDisc world is a bizarre and difficult one. I actually managed to track down SonicStage 4.3 though, so that'll be




OH GOD

Where did you find 4.3 at?

CubanMissile
Apr 22, 2003

Of Hulks and Spider-Men
I remember being super jealous of people who had Razrs because Sprint didn't carry them so I had to go with the ol' Sanyo Katana and tell my self it was just as good.

Skoll
Jul 26, 2013

Oh You'll Love My Toxic Love
Grimey Drawer

CubanMissile posted:

I remember being super jealous of people who had Razrs because Sprint didn't carry them so I had to go with the ol' Sanyo Katana and tell my self it was just as good.



I never had a Razr either and was slightly jelly of the fact some of my friends had one while i was rocking a generic clamshell flip phone.

nigga crab pollock
Mar 26, 2010

by Lowtax

Three-Phase posted:

Remember when you had only a certain number of minutes or texts each month and if you went over you had to pay extra money?

I also bought a hard drive today that was in a blister pack. :psyduck:

i still pay by the minute over a limit but i got grandfathered in with that tmobile nerd plan

$30 a month for 5 gigs of data is p good even if i also pay like $5 in minutes

Alan_Shore
Dec 2, 2004

Bovril Delight posted:

Where did you find 4.3 at?

Of all places, YouTube! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eh9cMj4BySI It's legit don't worry.


You're running the older version right?

nigga crab pollock
Mar 26, 2010

by Lowtax

Mak0rz posted:

Even the CG shots look good though. Especially the T. rex scenes. They still look great.


they tried really hard to make the special effects workable. things obfuscate the dinosaurs and they're also like maybe a minute of screen time in the entire movie. i think the raptors were mostly practical effects also? the entire trex scene was probably designed with the limitations of the rendering in mind but they nailed that poo poo, especially if you look hard at other parts and see how they really didn't have much to work with



yikes

thathonkey
Jul 17, 2012
Jurassic Park is one of my favorite movies i am so proud that it holds up this many years later :3:

Quote-Unquote
Oct 22, 2002



nigga crab pollock posted:

they tried really hard to make the special effects workable. things obfuscate the dinosaurs and they're also like maybe a minute of screen time in the entire movie. i think the raptors were mostly practical effects also? the entire trex scene was probably designed with the limitations of the rendering in mind but they nailed that poo poo, especially if you look hard at other parts and see how they really didn't have much to work with



yikes

Eh, still looks better than most of Batman vs Superman

computer parts
Nov 18, 2010

PLEASE CLAP

mrwuss posted:

and now thats the way it is with data

Nah, now they're moving over to "unlimited data! [56k after 1GB]".

thathonkey
Jul 17, 2012

computer parts posted:

Nah, now they're moving over to "unlimited data! [56k after 1GB]".

it's an improvement over having to pay once you exceed your initial limit at least. the ones ive seen take you down to 3G though

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
Prepaid are doing that. I've got 2.5G of 4G data and then 128k after that. Major carriers still have the same fees if you go over your data.

barnold
Dec 16, 2011


what do u do when yuo're born to play fps? guess there's nothing left to do but play fps. boom headshot
on T-Mobile, they do 5/10GB of 4G LTE and then 2G speeds after that. Nothing like trying to load a YouTube video at ~17.5KB/s

Mak0rz posted:

E: I just remembered that I dug it up recently from going through some old junk:


By the looks of it, I have this same exact adapter. I use it to plug my USA Beatmania controller into my PC. Never had a problem with lag or delay, otherwise I wouldn't be able to play such a timing intensive rhythm game. The drivers for it come on some cheapo Chinese mini-CD, so I'm not sure I could ever find them again if I lose the CD itself.

barnold has a new favorite as of 16:24 on Aug 8, 2016

Mak0rz
Aug 2, 2008

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Turdsdown Tom posted:

The drivers for it come on some cheapo Chinese mini-CD, so I'm not sure I could ever find them again if I lose the CD itself.

You don't even need it. It just works fine if you plug it in and play. Or maybe drivers were needed for that bemani controller you're talking about.

Mad Hamish
Jun 15, 2008

WILL AMOUNT TO NOTHING IN LIFE.



Uncle at Nintendo posted:

Fun fact: the reason Jurassic Park looks realistic and still holds up today is because a lot of scenes used puppets and not CGI (especially scenes where the dinosaur's faces were up close).

I was watching Little Shop of Horrors the other day, saying to myself "this movie would look so lovely if it was done even today with CGI". It held up really well.

Jurassic Park was on last night and the only thing that looked egregiously CG was the herd of gallimimus and the banner that draped over the T. Rex at the end.

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
I think a lot of it was practical effects so it still holds up.

Bloody Hedgehog
Dec 12, 2003

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Gotta nuke something
JP was originally going to have stop-motion dinos, and I think it was Phil Tippet that was tapped to do this. He did a bunch of test-footage of raptors, which was some of the best stop-motion work ever done. Unbeknownst to him though, the studio also asked ILM to do some CGI test cycles of dinos to see what they liked.

It was rough watching the making of JP shows, because you could visibly see Phil Tippet deflating as he watched how much more realistic the CG dinos were looking and moving, and the realization that the death knell was now ringing for his skills in the industry. And I don't know if you've seen any modern interviews with Tippet, but that guy is one of the most bitter, sour men you'll ever see. He basically has a permanent "I'm pissed off with everything and why do I have to talk to you plebs" expression on his face.

my turn in the barrel
Dec 31, 2007

Pubic Lair posted:

My old room at my parents place is 15x20 hoarders style stack of old Hi-fi gear, vidya games and computer poo poo. This is a random box of controllers.



I'll try to grab some pics next time I go over there if you guys promise not to throw an intervention.

Quoting the original post for pic, I took the pic a few years ago so I can only see what you see but I'm betting that's $100 worth of junk.

I see
a Competition Pro Amiga or commodore stick
An atari slik Stik
stock atari 2600 controllers
an akklaim wireless nes controller with the reciever
2 atari or commodore flight sticks
1 aftermarket 2600 controller I can't identify
that weird NES paddle controller
atari 7800 controller

boar guy
Jan 25, 2007

yeah but where's the NES Arkanoid controller?

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

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Bloody Hedgehog posted:

JP was originally going to have stop-motion dinos, and I think it was Phil Tippet that was tapped to do this. He did a bunch of test-footage of raptors, which was some of the best stop-motion work ever done. Unbeknownst to him though, the studio also asked ILM to do some CGI test cycles of dinos to see what they liked.

It was rough watching the making of JP shows, because you could visibly see Phil Tippet deflating as he watched how much more realistic the CG dinos were looking and moving, and the realization that the death knell was now ringing for his skills in the industry. And I don't know if you've seen any modern interviews with Tippet, but that guy is one of the most bitter, sour men you'll ever see. He basically has a permanent "I'm pissed off with everything and why do I have to talk to you plebs" expression on his face.

Is he also Mike Jittlov?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GoLhLn9hVkE

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my turn in the barrel
Dec 31, 2007

Efexeye posted:

yeah but where's the NES Arkanoid controller?

I don't have one of those or Arkanoid itself. I do have a weird NES accessory called a Game Action Replay.



It acted as a gobetween the NES and your game. So it could enable slow motion not by pressing start really fast but actually slowing down the speed the game goes to the processor. It also has a battery backup and save states so you can save any nes game at any point and go back much like people do with speedruns today. And you could plug a game genie in on top of it to enable even more stuff.

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