USPOL August: Quoth The Donald, "Arzy more."

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FAUXTON: Jun 2, 2005; spero che tu stia bene

Bip Roberts posted:

He's the kid running for class president who says the class president gets free pizza every day.

He's the kid running for class president on a platform of "plus-only grading system" and "undeclared can itself be an undergrad degree." Also removal of maximum credit-hour rules (E.g. you need to graduate within 150% of program length else they yank your aid) and pizza every day for free.

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Pakled: Aug 6, 2011; WE ARE SMART

PoorMoralCompass posted:

Has there ever been a sound argument explaining why globalism is... frightening? What the definition of 'globalism' anyway?
Honest question.

Globalism is frightening to these people because of the Book of Revelation.

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Complaint Compilation: Apr 8, 2016

I mean honestly, the only definition I can scrape up is 'we'll have to think about places and people other than our own.'
:sad:

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Evil Fluffy: Jul 13, 2009; Scholars are some of the most pompous and pedantic people I've ever had the joy of meeting.

OtherworldlyInvader posted:

Ivanpah was the big test of this theory and it was a failure, the plant burns natural gas in order to keep the temperatures up, and several times more than they expected. I think there's a couple more big concentrated solar thermal plants in the works and maybe they'll do better, but who knows.

That's unfortunate to hear. Hadn't heard much about it lately and I guess that'd be why.

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Shrecknet: Jan 2, 2005

PoorMoralCompass posted:

Has there ever been a sound argument explaining why globalism is... frightening? What the definition of 'globalism' anyway?
Honest question.

Globalism represents the idea that people in Sri Lanka or wherever are more open to the idea of being exploited for a dollar a day because it's a pay hike from their current 45c a day.

This is bad if it means the company that was paying you $17/hr does this, and you go from $17/hr to $0.

Ironically, part of the TPP would be people being able to sue companies in Sri Lanka for not paying $17/hr, and making it unattractive to outsource your work. But TPP is bad because it includes protection for drug patents.

# ? Aug 8, 2016 18:14

Grundulum: Feb 28, 2006

OtherworldlyInvader posted:

Ivanpah was the big test of this theory and it was a failure, the plant burns natural gas in order to keep the temperatures up, and several times more than they expected. I think there's a couple more big concentrated solar thermal plants in the works and maybe they'll do better, but who knows.

But if the NG is burned to bootstrap the solar production, and ultimately Ivanpah generates more electricity than the NG plant could have with the same amount of fuel, that's still a win for solar, right? Obviously it would be better to use less natural gas, but at least it's being used efficiently to jumpstart a solar plant. (Edit: a win from an environmental standpoint, if not an economic one.)

Didn't we have a power generation thread at some point? This is really fascinating stuff, but only tangentially related to US politics.

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Solkanar512: Dec 28, 2006; by the sex ghost

theflyingorc posted:

Ah, people from other places are bad, OP

It is bad when it used to be your job.

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dromer: Aug 19, 2012; THUNDERDOME LOSER

theflyingorc posted:

He just unambiguously said that we're going to have a resurgence of the steel industry. That seems...not critical

Recycled steel is the big thing right now isn't it? When I did some pre interview research of Arcelor Mittal all I could find was articles on how they were losing profits because of Nucor.

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My Imaginary GF: Jul 17, 2005; by R. Guyovich

FAUXTON posted:

He's the kid running for class president on a platform of "plus-only grading system" and "undeclared can itself be an undergrad degree." Also removal of maximum credit-hour rules (E.g. you need to graduate within 150% of program length else they yank your aid) and pizza every day for free.

Government does not have a responsibility to provide free pizza. I trust charity from the faith community to provide pizza for those in need.

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Josef bugman: Nov 17, 2011; Pictured: Poster prepares to celebrate Holy Communion (probablY)

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PoorMoralCompass posted:

Has there ever been a sound argument explaining why globalism is... frightening? What the definition of 'globalism' anyway?
Honest question.

We discussed this a few days back, but essentially one arguement against it is the fact that it lets companies outsource their workers to places that are a lot crappier and not pay them well for it, making for a race to the bottom in places where they used to be.

There is also teh problem of more interconnected economic networks going bugfuck mental if a large thing collapses in a nation state somewhere else on the planet -cough- 2008 crash -cough cough-.

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Space Poodle: Nov 11, 2007

PoorMoralCompass posted:

Has there ever been a sound argument explaining why globalism is... frightening? What the definition of 'globalism' anyway?
Honest question.

To me, personally: if corporate entities are literally too large to police, because they're basically their own borderless economies, and they more-and-more frequently have their own security forces, then we have an actual scary problem.

But, usually, with internet peoples it's just something about the Jews and Jesus coming back.

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My Imaginary GF: Jul 17, 2005; by R. Guyovich

PoorMoralCompass posted:

I mean honestly, the only definition I can scrape up is 'we'll have to think about places and people other than our own.'

Why the gently caress have a nation if you have to think about non-citizens?

# ? Aug 8, 2016 18:17

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PoorMoralCompass posted:

Has there ever been a sound argument explaining why globalism is... frightening? What the definition of 'globalism' anyway?
Honest question.

Globalism is typically associated with sweatshops and outsourcing jobs, coupled with mass immigration and falling wages. To people who are living paycheck to paycheck, it's terrifying to think of an influx of people willing to do their job for less.

Then you have the added tribalism on top of it, making it a racist shitshow.

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Josef bugman: Nov 17, 2011; Pictured: Poster prepares to celebrate Holy Communion (probablY)

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My Imaginary GF posted:

Why the gently caress have a nation if you have to think about non-citizens?

Well traditionally

:words:

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haveblue: Aug 15, 2005; Toilet Rascal

Pakled posted:

Globalism is frightening to these people because of the Book of Revelation.

No, that's national ID cards.

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CommieGIR: Aug 22, 2006; The blue glow is a feature, not a bug; Pillbug

haveblue posted:

No, that's national ID cards.

Meh, Globalization flares up the NWO conspiracy theories that a lot of the Evangelicals love believing in.

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sudo rm -rf: Aug 2, 2011; $ mv fullcommunism.sh /america $ cd /america $ ./fullcommunism.sh

disjoe posted:

GA and PA aren't experiencing demographic changes on the level of Texas, though.

ga is, actually.

certainly not as much as texas, but it's still fairly significant. 100% increase in the hispanic population between 2000 and 2010, from 400k to 800k.

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1-800-DOCTORB: Nov 6, 2009

Dirt posted:

https://twitter.com/SopanDeb/status/762695350499086336

This is going to be making me feel ok about living in Michigan for a day or so.

How long until Trump is escorted by the police out of his own speech yelling "BIG HANDS, I HAVE BIG HANDS drat YOU! THE BIGGEST HANDS"

*the police try to handcuff him but the bracelets just slide off*

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boner confessor: Apr 25, 2013; by R. Guyovich

disjoe posted:

GA and PA aren't experiencing demographic changes on the level of Texas, though.

georgia is absolutely going through the same demographic changes as texas. it's just that texas is much larger and has two major cities and two minor cities instead of one major city and no important minors

pennsylvania is increasingly urbanizing but it's not seeing the same influx of nonwhite immigrants

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Night10194: Feb 13, 2012; We'll start,
like many good things,
with a bear.

gently caress You And Diebold posted:

https://twitter.com/BenjySarlin/status/762695021661347844

This, uh, looks real bad for the fascist yam. Are they a decent pollster?

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zoux: Apr 28, 2006

Night10194 posted:

This, uh, looks real bad for the fascist yam. Are they a decent pollster?

A+

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Night10194 posted:

This, uh, looks real bad for the fascist yam. Are they a decent pollster?

Better than decent.

# ? Aug 8, 2016 18:28

Crows Turn Off: Jan 7, 2008

Edit: Beaten.

Night10194 posted:

This, uh, looks real bad for the fascist yam. Are they a decent pollster?

Monmouth gets an A+ from 538.

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sudo rm -rf: Aug 2, 2011; $ mv fullcommunism.sh /america $ cd /america $ ./fullcommunism.sh

i feel reasonably confident in saying ga will be purple before texas

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Qwazes: Sep 29, 2014; Fun Shoe

They're on huff po, so they seem credible.

I'm new, what is arzying?

# ? Aug 8, 2016 18:30

boner confessor: Apr 25, 2013; by R. Guyovich

sudo rm -rf posted:

i feel reasonably confident in saying ga will be purple before texas

probably, if only because it's easier for atlanta to dominate the rest of georgia than it is for the texas triangle to dominate rural texas

i'd bet against either of them going blue this election

# ? Aug 8, 2016 18:32

emdash: Oct 19, 2003; and?

Qwazes posted:

They're on huff po, so they seem credible.

I'm new, what is arzying?

http://forums.somethingawful.com/dictionary.php?act=3&topicid=2431

# ? Aug 8, 2016 18:32

Night10194: Feb 13, 2012; We'll start,
like many good things,
with a bear.

Qwazes posted:

They're on huff po, so they seem credible.

I'm new, what is arzying?

"Trump got a campaign bump! The thousand year Reich is here and we'll all be dragged from our homes to work in the hand mines, then purged!"

Or better put: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTlVRUkwYRI

# ? Aug 8, 2016 18:32

Crows Turn Off: Jan 7, 2008

Qwazes posted:

I'm new, what is arzying?

There was a poster years ago named Arzy that would freak out every time Obama slipped in the polls or there was any bad news. Freaking out about every little thing is now called "arzying."

To be honest, everybody here is guilty of it even if they don't admit it.

# ? Aug 8, 2016 18:33

Pakled: Aug 6, 2011; WE ARE SMART

Qwazes posted:

They're on huff po, so they seem credible.

I'm new, what is arzying?

Arzy was a poster who constantly was massively pessimistic during the 2008 election, panicking about every bit of negative news about Obama and seeing everything as the end of Obama's campaign. He became a verb because of this.

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Eggplant Squire: Aug 14, 2003

I kinda want a text filter that just replaces "Arzy" with a sentence long description of what that means.

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plainswalker75: Feb 22, 2003; Pigs are smarter than Bears, but they can't ride motorcycles; Hair Elf

Look, there's even an SAclopedia entry! https://forums.somethingawful.com/dictionary.php?act=3&topicid=2431

# ? Aug 8, 2016 18:34

Night10194: Feb 13, 2012; We'll start,
like many good things,
with a bear.

The bit in that Monmouth poll about how 63% of voters are just plain sick of the E-Mails and don't want to hear any more about them is a hidden gem of 'Oh gently caress' for the GOP, I think.

# ? Aug 8, 2016 18:38

Eggplant Squire: Aug 14, 2003

I think the GOP overplayed their hand. As a backdrop of "look another thing Crooked Hillary is being shady about" it would have been somewhat effective but going all in and having it be another bunch of nothing that even the Republican FBI head said wasn't illegal and most people are going to just shrug. It didn't help you had a convention where people were treating it like it was a capital crime and if you can't nab a politician with that (let alone allow bored_hillary.gif to be created) you look weak as hell.

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